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CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-26 by James Ulibarri

Anyone else discovered this wonderful combo besides Tweedie?
Not too bad at all. You can override that turd ASR-X sequencer very easily with the Command Station
and just use the ASR-X as a desktop sampler/sound module. Great hardware sound in these units
when you just don't want to be around a laptop. Although, both I feel both are necessary as they
both have their strong points.

I have the compact flash mod done on my ASR-X and I highly recommend getting a zip drive if you
can get the scsi card.




Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-26 by Matt

If only I can find one. Or maybe eps16+rack for cheap.
Right now I have set up px7 with mpc500, kaoss pad 3, esi-2000, and roland sh-32 mixed thru mackie recording with sp-808ex. Rig all fits on the kitchen table.
Usually when I play out ill bring the cs and a buddy. The sh-32 or the esi or the kp3.
Not really a fan of mpc500 sound, I have to turn it up all the way and turn the gain up super high on the mixer.
Sh-32 the arp is kind of glitchy and crashes when you press buttons. But it sounds awesome. And I kinda like that its all right there in front of you. But its hard to save patches because if you touch a knob it will change your patch drastically. But this makes every time you play with it super organic and keeps it fresh. Great lfo and arp.
I really like the esi sound it sounds real fat for drums and I got it for $100 on craigslist. No filters and no effects though. I can't figure out how to send it anything but mod. I can't find an adsr. And it hangs when you load samples. Baw.
Ensoniq sound is famously huge. wu tang is all ensoniq. Right? And I hear that you can load the samples while playing on an ensoniq?

On Feb 25, 2011 4:33 PM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:

Anyone else discovered this wonderful combo besides Tweedie?
Not too bad at all. You can override that turd ASR-X sequencer very easily with the Command Station
and just use the ASR-X as a desktop sampler/sound module. Great hardware sound in these units
when you just don't want to be around a laptop. Although, both I feel both are necessary as they
both have their strong points.

I have the compact flash mod done on my ASR-X and I highly recommend getting a zip drive if you
can get the scsi card.




Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-26 by James Ulibarri

i have no idea about wu tang. yeah the ensoniq kit sounds good. i have an ESQ-M running into the ASR-X for chords and stabs and I am really set in that dept.

Matt you really don't need all that gear. all you need is the CS and Ableton or an ASR-X.
You can do everything that emu sampler and roland phrase sampler and mpc can do easy.
you have too much stuff if you ask me. i used to think having 26 boxes all synced together was the most tits thing in the world with the lights off and watching all these blinking lights. until a few years back watching all these Youtube videos with all these rich asses having every box in the world making the most wackest sh*t ever. You simply do not need all that stuff to make albums. It's better to have just a couple machines or the "right" machines and get the most out of them than keep on buying stuff. GAS sucks!

speaking of GAS, i want that Europa sequencer so bad. It's on my list for 2011





On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:

If only I can find one. Or maybe eps16+rack for cheap.
Right now I have set up px7 with mpc500, kaoss pad 3, esi-2000, and roland sh-32 mixed thru mackie recording with sp-808ex. Rig all fits on the kitchen table.
Usually when I play out ill bring the cs and a buddy. The sh-32 or the esi or the kp3.
Not really a fan of mpc500 sound, I have to turn it up all the way and turn the gain up super high on the mixer.
Sh-32 the arp is kind of glitchy and crashes when you press buttons. But it sounds awesome. And I kinda like that its all right there in front of you. But its hard to save patches because if you touch a knob it will change your patch drastically. But this makes every time you play with it super organic and keeps it fresh. Great lfo and arp.
I really like the esi sound it sounds real fat for drums and I got it for $100 on craigslist. No filters and no effects though. I can't figure out how to send it anything but mod. I can't find an adsr. And it hangs when you load samples. Baw.
Ensoniq sound is famously huge. wu tang is all ensoniq. Right? And I hear that you can load the samples while playing on an ensoniq?

On Feb 25, 2011 4:33 PM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:

Anyone else discovered this wonderful combo besides Tweedie?
Not too bad at all. You can override that turd ASR-X sequencer very easily with the Command Station
and just use the ASR-X as a desktop sampler/sound module. Great hardware sound in these units
when you just don't want to be around a laptop. Although, both I feel both are necessary as they
both have their strong points.

I have the compact flash mod done on my ASR-X and I highly recommend getting a zip drive if you
can get the scsi card.





Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-26 by TOMTEL

I don't understand how having lots of equipment makes somebody rich? I have tons of things to play with and I enjoy doing it, and I'm not rich. I don't sell music, I make it for myself to listen too. I have been making music for 30 years, and just have acquired a ton of stuff over the years, it's just fun.... You know, hooking stuff up different ways, using different modules and things. But I just think that those who say people are rich or spoiled because they like something or have stuff, is wrong to say. I just like equipment.... If people choose to spend there money on cars, are they wrong because they have more than 1, no.... Sorry guys, but do what you want and have fun at it. I've never thought about hooking the ASR-X up to the CS. I use my MPC 2500 to make everything with. I will try it out though, sounds fun. Take care allTom

--- On Sat, 2/26/11, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@gmail.com> wrote:

From: James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>
Subject: Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 12:15 AM















 
 



  


    
      
      
      i have no idea about wu tang.   yeah the ensoniq kit sounds good.  i have an ESQ-M running into the ASR-X for chords and stabs and I am really set in that dept. 

Matt you really don't need all that gear.   all you need is the CS and Ableton or an ASR-X. 

You can do everything that emu sampler and roland phrase sampler and mpc can do easy. 
you have too much stuff if you ask me.   i used to think having 26 boxes all synced together was the most tits thing in the world with the lights off and watching all these blinking lights.   until a few years back watching all these Youtube videos with all these rich asses having every box in the world making the most wackest sh*t ever.   You simply do not need all that stuff to make albums.  It's better to have just a couple machines or the "right" machines and get the most out of them than keep on buying stuff.  GAS sucks!


speaking of GAS, i want that Europa sequencer so bad.  It's on my list for 2011





On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:
















 



  


    
      
      
      If only I can find one. Or maybe eps16+rack for cheap. 

Right now I have set up px7 with mpc500, kaoss pad 3, esi-2000, and roland sh-32 mixed thru mackie recording with sp-808ex. Rig all fits on the kitchen table.   

Usually when I play out ill bring the cs and a buddy.  The sh-32 or the esi or the kp3.  

Not really a fan of mpc500 sound, I have to turn it up all the way and turn the gain up super high on the mixer. 

Sh-32 the arp is kind of glitchy and crashes when you press buttons. But it sounds awesome.  And I kinda like that its all right there in front of you.  But its hard to save patches because if you touch a knob it will change your patch drastically.  But this makes every time you play with it super organic and keeps it fresh.  Great lfo and arp.   



I really like the esi sound it sounds real fat for drums and I got it for $100 on craigslist. No filters and no effects though. I can't figure out how to send it anything but mod. I can't find an adsr. And it hangs when you load samples.  Baw. 



Ensoniq sound is famously huge.  wu tang is all ensoniq. Right? And I hear that you can load the samples while playing on an ensoniq?  
On Feb 25, 2011 4:33 PM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
















 



  


    
      
      
      Anyone else discovered this wonderful combo besides Tweedie?
Not too bad at all. You can override that turd ASR-X sequencer very easily with the Command Station
and just use the ASR-X as a desktop sampler/sound module.   Great hardware sound in these units



when you just don't want to be around a laptop.  Although, both I feel both are necessary as they
both have their strong points. 

I have the compact flash mod done on my ASR-X and I highly recommend getting a zip drive if you 



can get the scsi card.

Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-26 by TOMTEL

Hey Matt.  You go, keep doing your thing. I listened to some of your music and I think you are doing good for as long as you've been doing it. Just keep learning and don't let others tell you what you need or don't need. Get what you want when you can afford do get it, and....keep making music. TOMTEL

--- On Fri, 2/25/11, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:

From: Matt <somatt@...>
Subject: Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 7:48 PM















 
 



  


    
      
      
      If only I can find one. Or maybe eps16+rack for cheap. 

Right now I have set up px7 with mpc500, kaoss pad 3, esi-2000, and roland sh-32 mixed thru mackie recording with sp-808ex. Rig all fits on the kitchen table.   

Usually when I play out ill bring the cs and a buddy.  The sh-32 or the esi or the kp3.  

Not really a fan of mpc500 sound, I have to turn it up all the way and turn the gain up super high on the mixer. 

Sh-32 the arp is kind of glitchy and crashes when you press buttons. But it sounds awesome.  And I kinda like that its all right there in front of you.  But its hard to save patches because if you touch a knob it will change your patch drastically.  But this makes every time you play with it super organic and keeps it fresh.  Great lfo and arp.   


I really like the esi sound it sounds real fat for drums and I got it for $100 on craigslist. No filters and no effects though. I can't figure out how to send it anything but mod. I can't find an adsr. And it hangs when you load samples.  Baw. 


Ensoniq sound is famously huge.  wu tang is all ensoniq. Right? And I hear that you can load the samples while playing on an ensoniq?  
On Feb 25, 2011 4:33 PM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
















 



  


    
      
      
      Anyone else discovered this wonderful combo besides Tweedie?
Not too bad at all. You can override that turd ASR-X sequencer very easily with the Command Station
and just use the ASR-X as a desktop sampler/sound module.   Great hardware sound in these units


when you just don't want to be around a laptop.  Although, both I feel both are necessary as they
both have their strong points. 

I have the compact flash mod done on my ASR-X and I highly recommend getting a zip drive if you 


can get the scsi card.

Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-26 by Matt

I have had way more machines. I still have a tr-505 because I want to get it pro bent with 8 faders and 8 outs and sequencer glitch patchbay by exfade one day, but I sold off a lot of stuff that I don't really use.
I find they all sound a bit different, but more important the music I make sound different because of the different user interfaces. I tend to keep the gear I seem to have fun with that sounds the best. The esi is less fun to deal with samples but sounds fat as hell and is to run in multi. Most of my gear works as controllers too. But maybe the vsts and abletons have different interfaces as well. Haven't really played with ableton much except to see it fail at midi sequencing on a white macbook and also on a dell netbook clone. Would love to get a non demo version that might work better on a nice mac and not a netbook mac clone.
I also have reason as a sound module on my macbook pro which is fun sometime and I have a game boy with korg ds-10 analogue synth video game which I jam out on too. these all sound thin compared to my emu gear.
I got the mpc for a great deal $100 plus gas to san jose. I never had a mpc before but 500 is kind of meh. I like electribe esx a lot better as far as interface sound and it lights up like a mofo. Other mpc might sound better but still interface seems the same. Never touched a jjos or a mpc3000 or mpc60.
But yea the main thing I like about different gear synced is their swings and sequencers will be different and their interfaces will be different.
I used to like a ton of gear synced but it becomes unmanageable with only two hands and the midi latency can get bad. If you have two people syncing their gear or gear and a computer it can be very cool like a vs set.
I tend to stay away from the computer because the internets are distracting to me and it looks silly on stage... but maybe I should get over that.
I hear killer stuff coming out of computers
But then I like my stuff too and it just sounds different. And since its not solely bounced down clips it seems easier to modify live it seems to keep things fresh.
The reason I liked eps16+ is I don't need a desktop box really because I have the cs and I like to stack it on a rack unit like. But it seems to have everything else the asr-x has except stomper and lots of ram? And it let's you load samples while playing sequences because of dual processer? Esi stops playing to load. I hate this.
Dunno, these three box seems fabled, eps16, emax and asr. The only asr I ever saw in person I purchased from ebay and it didn't work so I returned it.

Maybe I am gassy... this means bloated right?

On Feb 25, 2011 9:15 PM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@gmail.com> wrote:

i have no idea about wu tang. yeah the ensoniq kit sounds good. i have an ESQ-M running into the ASR-X for chords and stabs and I am really set in that dept.

Matt you really don't need all that gear. all you need is the CS and Ableton or an ASR-X.
You can do everything that emu sampler and roland phrase sampler and mpc can do easy.
you have too much stuff if you ask me. i used to think having 26 boxes all synced together was the most tits thing in the world with the lights off and watching all these blinking lights. until a few years back watching all these Youtube videos with all these rich asses having every box in the world making the most wackest sh*t ever. You simply do not need all that stuff to make albums. It's better to have just a couple machines or the "right" machines and get the most out of them than keep on buying stuff. GAS sucks!

speaking of GAS, i want that Europa sequencer so bad. It's on my list for 2011







On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Matt <;somatt@...> wrote:
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> If only I can find o...

Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-26 by James Ulibarri

G.A.S. (Gear Acquisition Syndrome).

dude you don't need all that crap. just keep it simple. anyways i can't talk myself, but i do try to keep it simple these days

anyways, well hopefully any CS users out there get on board with the whole ASR-X combo. i have another asr-x coming and i want to try two. why two? because the asr-x's effects engine only work through the two main outs. if you get the 8 out expansion all the outputs will be dry. which is ok for people with lots of processors. but it will be a sick experiment. all the CS's knobs throw CC's to the envelopes and filters of the asr-x's instantly. for some reason my were already mapped. weird. the results are very organic and liquid sounding. something that ableton is not. the Delay>EQ is my favorite effect. lots of warm fuzzy hiss going on there. great for atmospheric drone chords, etc



On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:

I have had way more machines. I still have a tr-505 because I want to get it pro bent with 8 faders and 8 outs and sequencer glitch patchbay by exfade one day, but I sold off a lot of stuff that I don't really use.
I find they all sound a bit different, but more important the music I make sound different because of the different user interfaces. I tend to keep the gear I seem to have fun with that sounds the best. The esi is less fun to deal with samples but sounds fat as hell and is to run in multi. Most of my gear works as controllers too. But maybe the vsts and abletons have different interfaces as well. Haven't really played with ableton much except to see it fail at midi sequencing on a white macbook and also on a dell netbook clone. Would love to get a non demo version that might work better on a nice mac and not a netbook mac clone.
I also have reason as a sound module on my macbook pro which is fun sometime and I have a game boy with korg ds-10 analogue synth video game which I jam out on too. these all sound thin compared to my emu gear.
I got the mpc for a great deal $100 plus gas to san jose. I never had a mpc before but 500 is kind of meh. I like electribe esx a lot better as far as interface sound and it lights up like a mofo. Other mpc might sound better but still interface seems the same. Never touched a jjos or a mpc3000 or mpc60.
But yea the main thing I like about different gear synced is their swings and sequencers will be different and their interfaces will be different.
I used to like a ton of gear synced but it becomes unmanageable with only two hands and the midi latency can get bad. If you have two people syncing their gear or gear and a computer it can be very cool like a vs set.
I tend to stay away from the computer because the internets are distracting to me and it looks silly on stage... but maybe I should get over that.
I hear killer stuff coming out of computers
But then I like my stuff too and it just sounds different. And since its not solely bounced down clips it seems easier to modify live it seems to keep things fresh.
The reason I liked eps16+ is I don't need a desktop box really because I have the cs and I like to stack it on a rack unit like. But it seems to have everything else the asr-x has except stomper and lots of ram? And it let's you load samples while playing sequences because of dual processer? Esi stops playing to load. I hate this.
Dunno, these three box seems fabled, eps16, emax and asr. The only asr I ever saw in person I purchased from ebay and it didn't work so I returned it.

Maybe I am gassy... this means bloated right?

On Feb 25, 2011 9:15 PM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:

i have no idea about wu tang. yeah the ensoniq kit sounds good. i have an ESQ-M running into the ASR-X for chords and stabs and I am really set in that dept.

Matt you really don't need all that gear. all you need is the CS and Ableton or an ASR-X.
You can do everything that emu sampler and roland phrase sampler and mpc can do easy.
you have too much stuff if you ask me. i used to think having 26 boxes all synced together was the most tits thing in the world with the lights off and watching all these blinking lights. until a few years back watching all these Youtube videos with all these rich asses having every box in the world making the most wackest sh*t ever. You simply do not need all that stuff to make albums. It's better to have just a couple machines or the "right" machines and get the most out of them than keep on buying stuff. GAS sucks!

speaking of GAS, i want that Europa sequencer so bad. It's on my list for 2011







On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:
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> If only I can find o...


Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-26 by Matt

Recently been using just the cs and the esi2k and getting great results layering drums and doing synth with the cs. Cs has quiet drums as a whole, some patches better than others. Esi is loud punchy and warm when u turn internal gain up. Wish I had fx expansion and internal zip for esi. But not worth spending money on.
Are you using asr-x for synths too or just drums or all samples? Are you using internal sounds on cs at all?

On Feb 26, 2011 3:32 PM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@gmail.com> wrote:

G.A.S. (Gear Acquisition Syndrome).

dude you don't need all that crap. just keep it simple. anyways i can't talk myself, but i do try to keep it simple these days

anyways, well hopefully any CS users out there get on board with the whole ASR-X combo. i have another asr-x coming and i want to try two. why two? because the asr-x's effects engine only work through the two main outs. if you get the 8 out expansion all the outputs will be dry. which is ok for people with lots of processors. but it will be a sick experiment. all the CS's knobs throw CC's to the envelopes and filters of the asr-x's instantly. for some reason my were already mapped. weird. the results are very organic and liquid sounding. something that ableton is not. the Delay>EQ is my favorite effect. lots of warm fuzzy hiss going on there. great for atmospheric drone chords, etc





On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:
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Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-27 by mr geee hgt

i prefer the sequencer of the rs7000 in cunjunction with the asrx. i have a a second asrx pro(scsi) for sale here in berlin. interested?
rs7000+asrx=dopeass beats
cs+some mono synths=serious bas+arp heaven

hgt

On 26.02.2011, at 06:15, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:

> i have no idea about wu tang.   yeah the ensoniq kit sounds good.  i have an ESQ-M running into the ASR-X for chords and stabs and I am really set in that dept. 
> 
> Matt you really don't need all that gear.   all you need is the CS and Ableton or an ASR-X. 
> You can do everything that emu sampler and roland phrase sampler and mpc can do easy. 
> you have too much stuff if you ask me.   i used to think having 26 boxes all synced together was the most tits thing in the world with the lights off and watching all these blinking lights.   until a few years back watching all these Youtube videos with all these rich asses having every box in the world making the most wackest sh*t ever.   You simply do not need all that stuff to make albums.  It's better to have just a couple machines or the "right" machines and get the most out of them than keep on buying stuff.  GAS sucks!
> 
> speaking of GAS, i want that Europa sequencer so bad.  It's on my list for 2011
> 
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> On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:
>  
> If only I can find one. Or maybe eps16+rack for cheap. 
> Right now I have set up px7 with mpc500, kaoss pad 3, esi-2000, and roland sh-32 mixed thru mackie recording with sp-808ex. Rig all fits on the kitchen table.   
> Usually when I play out ill bring the cs and a buddy.  The sh-32 or the esi or the kp3.  
> Not really a fan of mpc500 sound, I have to turn it up all the way and turn the gain up super high on the mixer. 
> Sh-32 the arp is kind of glitchy and crashes when you press buttons. But it sounds awesome.  And I kinda like that its all right there in front of you.  But its hard to save patches because if you touch a knob it will change your patch drastically.  But this makes every time you play with it super organic and keeps it fresh.  Great lfo and arp.   
> I really like the esi sound it sounds real fat for drums and I got it for $100 on craigslist. No filters and no effects though. I can't figure out how to send it anything but mod. I can't find an adsr. And it hangs when you load samples.  Baw. 
> Ensoniq sound is famously huge.  wu tang is all ensoniq. Right? And I hear that you can load the samples while playing on an ensoniq? 
> 
>> On Feb 25, 2011 4:33 PM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
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>>  
>> Anyone else discovered this wonderful combo besides Tweedie?
>> Not too bad at all. You can override that turd ASR-X sequencer very easily with the Command Station
>> and just use the ASR-X as a desktop sampler/sound module.   Great hardware sound in these units
>> when you just don't want to be around a laptop.  Although, both I feel both are necessary as they
>> both have their strong points. 
>> 
>> I have the compact flash mod done on my ASR-X and I highly recommend getting a zip drive if you 
>> can get the scsi card. 
>> 
>> 
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Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-27 by James Ulibarri

it's cool to see what others are doing with their ASR-X's.

for me it's been a luke warm experience with the unit until now. until i started digging into the unit. i was convinced of selling it the first night i got it. but the resampling feature is insane with the auto normalize function. it actually works. i'm flying through the machine like i've owned it for 10 years. very straightforward stuff if you're used to ensoniq kit.

Matt, no i don't have a single rom anymore. all 4 of my slots are empty. i have a friend that is making a PPG and Voyetra 8 and Arp 2600 rom for me with the real machines that he has. but he's very slow and it's gonna take a while for him to burn the rom. right now i am more than happy with the ESQ-M and Juno 1. i have no interest in the roms and i'm not gonna get on that wagon of chasing them down. the custom one is a different story. the effects on the CS totally suck and i think the machine sounds thin to my old ears. they sound like a rusty tin can. very groovebox sounding. the only groovebox all in one solution's effects that i have owned that actually sounds decent has been the ASR-X. it has a similar engine to the DP4. i say similar because it's lacking a ton of algos and configuration. it's not the same. but it's like a very stripped down version of the processor. but the meat and potatoes are kinda there. kinda. all i need is the wonderful EQ to carve new voices, and some of the reverbs are decent. and maybe the delays in a pinch. but it's sure is one handy machine compared to so many other failure samplers i've owned. i love the desktop footprint. i am replacing my LCD with a white on blue in a week or two. it's gonna look sick. did i meantion how sick the envelopes are? the LFO's aren't doing much for me at the moment, but give me some time.

i want to try that software for the ASR-X now. i think it's ASR-X tools by chicken systems. now that would be totally dangerous in the right hands.

to compare the ASR-X to the MPC-3000 back in the day was a total waste of time by magazines, etc. they're not even close. the MPC-3K has a real sequencer but can't touch the sampling engine of the ASR-X, and everyone knows the sequencer is a turd in the ASR-X. although some people have gotten it to work. i'm not gonna even bother unless i totally get bored and i'm shipwrecked on a desert island with headphones.
the ASR-X and it's ability to load .aif's and .waves is totally bonkers with no conversion software necessary. i have a 2gig compact flash on board my unit and i'm gonna go nuts on this thing. those slow attack envelopes are a sincere glass of fresh air compared to ableton, and the very vintage Emu samplers i recently nuked. they just didn't sound natural for that kind of thing. but this unit does. The ASR-X will sound different in the next guy's hands. i don't think anyone on the planet is using this unit for Ambient, but it works for me. the sound is very eyebrow raising.





On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 2:53 AM, mr geee hgt <hgt55@yahoo.com> wrote:

i prefer the sequencer of the rs7000 in cunjunction with the asrx. i have a a second asrx pro(scsi) for sale here in berlin. interested?
rs7000+asrx=dopeass beats
cs+some mono synths=serious bas+arp heaven

hgt

On 26.02.2011, at 06:15, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:

i have no idea about wu tang. yeah the ensoniq kit sounds good. i have an ESQ-M running into the ASR-X for chords and stabs and I am really set in that dept.

Matt you really don't need all that gear. all you need is the CS and Ableton or an ASR-X.
You can do everything that emu sampler and roland phrase sampler and mpc can do easy.
you have too much stuff if you ask me. i used to think having 26 boxes all synced together was the most tits thing in the world with the lights off and watching all these blinking lights. until a few years back watching all these Youtube videos with all these rich asses having every box in the world making the most wackest sh*t ever. You simply do not need all that stuff to make albums. It's better to have just a couple machines or the "right" machines and get the most out of them than keep on buying stuff. GAS sucks!

speaking of GAS, i want that Europa sequencer so bad. It's on my list for 2011





On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:

If only I can find one. Or maybe eps16+rack for cheap.
Right now I have set up px7 with mpc500, kaoss pad 3, esi-2000, and roland sh-32 mixed thru mackie recording with sp-808ex. Rig all fits on the kitchen table.
Usually when I play out ill bring the cs and a buddy. The sh-32 or the esi or the kp3.
Not really a fan of mpc500 sound, I have to turn it up all the way and turn the gain up super high on the mixer.
Sh-32 the arp is kind of glitchy and crashes when you press buttons. But it sounds awesome. And I kinda like that its all right there in front of you. But its hard to save patches because if you touch a knob it will change your patch drastically. But this makes every time you play with it super organic and keeps it fresh. Great lfo and arp.
I really like the esi sound it sounds real fat for drums and I got it for $100 on craigslist. No filters and no effects though. I can't figure out how to send it anything but mod. I can't find an adsr. And it hangs when you load samples. Baw.
Ensoniq sound is famously huge. wu tang is all ensoniq. Right? And I hear that you can load the samples while playing on an ensoniq?

On Feb 25, 2011 4:33 PM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:

Anyone else discovered this wonderful combo besides Tweedie?
Not too bad at all. You can override that turd ASR-X sequencer very easily with the Command Station
and just use the ASR-X as a desktop sampler/sound module. Great hardware sound in these units
when you just don't want to be around a laptop. Although, both I feel both are necessary as they
both have their strong points.

I have the compact flash mod done on my ASR-X and I highly recommend getting a zip drive if you
can get the scsi card.






Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-27 by James Ulibarri

Maybe rich was the wrong word. I mean wasteful, actually. There are too many clowns on Youtube running around town with a ton of stuff midi'd up making really poor electronic music with a ton of gear. Used hardware is cheap these days. I'm not talking joker $100 stuff like chewed up Electribes and MC-303's and toy stuff like that. I'm talking Genoq Octopuss's and modulars, and cult analog synths, etc. Anyone can collect shelves of junk that's buggy and has seen the rounds. I'm not talking stuff like that. My point was that it's better to have two or 3 machines and just use those machines to make music with, verses constantly chasing gear for years on and end never make anything. There is a point where a person needs to say hey, I need to record some music here with what I got and the next box isn't going to help me or serve me any better if I don't stop this mad chase for kit all day long. That was my point. I'm guilty of this. Few people have the nuts to look in the mirror that way and actually take in account of this verses the mad gear rampage that most of us fall into. Some of the best albums ever recorded was made with very little and I don't think most people are aware of this (or care). Anyways, do what you guys want. You don't need my blessing or permission. I'm just sayin. :)





On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 5:24 AM, TOMTEL <doggtel@...> wrote:

I don't understand how having lots of equipment makes somebody rich? I have tons of things to play with and I enjoy doing it, and I9;m not rich. I don't sell music, I make it for myself to listen too. I have been making music for 30 years, and just have acquired a ton of stuff over the years, it's just fun.... You know, hooking stuff up different ways, using different modules and things. But I just think that those who say people are rich or spoiled because they like something or have stuff, is wrong to say. I just like equipment.... If people choose to spend there money on cars, are they wrong because they have more than 1, no.... Sorry guys, but do what you want and have fun at it. I've never thought about hooking the ASR-X up to the CS. I use my MPC 2500 to make everything with. I will try it out though, sounds fun. Take care all
Tom

--- On Sat, 2/26/11, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:

From: James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>
Subject: Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, February 26, 2011, 12:15 AM


i have no idea about wu tang. yeah the ensoniq kit sounds good. i have an ESQ-M running into the ASR-X for chords and stabs and I am really set in that dept.

Matt you really don't need all that gear. all you need is the CS and Ableton or an ASR-X.
You can do everything that emu sampler and roland phrase sampler and mpc can do easy.
you have too much stuff if you ask me. i used to think having 26 boxes all synced together was the most tits thing in the world with the lights off and watching all these blinking lights. until a few years back watching all these Youtube videos with all these rich asses having every box in the world making the most wackest sh*t ever. You simply do not need all that stuff to make albums. It's better to have just a couple machines or the "right" machines and get the most out of them than keep on buying stuff. GAS sucks!

speaking of GAS, i want that Europa sequencer so bad. It's on my list for 2011





On Fri, Feb 25, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:

If only I can find one. Or maybe eps16+rack for cheap.
Right now I have set up px7 with mpc500, kaoss pad 3, esi-2000, and roland sh-32 mixed thru mackie recording with sp-808ex. Rig all fits on the kitchen table.
Usually when I play out ill bring the cs and a buddy. The sh-32 or the esi or the kp3.
Not really a fan of mpc500 sound, I have to turn it up all the way and turn the gain up super high on the mixer.
Sh-32 the arp is kind of glitchy and crashes when you press buttons. But it sounds awesome. And I kinda like that its all right there in front of you. But its hard to save patches because if you touch a knob it will change your patch drastically. But this makes every time you play with it super organic and keeps it fresh. Great lfo and arp.
I really like the esi sound it sounds real fat for drums and I got it for $100 on craigslist. No filters and no effects though. I can't figure out how to send it anything but mod. I can't find an adsr. And it hangs when you load samples. Baw.
Ensoniq sound is famously huge. wu tang is all ensoniq. Right? And I hear that you can load the samples while playing on an ensoniq?

On Feb 25, 2011 4:33 PM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@gmail.com> wrote:

Anyone else discovered this wonderful combo besides Tweedie?
Not too bad at all. You can override that turd ASR-X sequencer very easily with the Command Station
and just use the ASR-X as a desktop sampler/sound module. Great hardware sound in these units
when you just don't want to be around a laptop. Although, both I feel both are necessary as they
both have their strong points.

I have the compact flash mod done on my ASR-X and I highly recommend getting a zip drive if you
can get the scsi card.






Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-27 by James Ulibarri

what a joke

I'll run circles around Tomtell with gear knowledge, Matt. you already know this

late


On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 11:22 AM, TOMTEL <doggtel@...> wrote:

Hey Matt. You go, keep doing your thing. I listened to some of your music and I think you are doing good for as long as you've been doing it. Just keep learning and don't let others tell you what you need or don't need. Get what you want when you can afford do get it, and....keep making music. TOMTEL

--- On Fri, 2/25/11, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:

From: Matt <somatt@...>;


Subject: Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 7:48 PM




If only I can find one. Or maybe eps16+rack for cheap.

Right now I have set up px7 with mpc500, kaoss pad 3, esi-2000, and roland sh-32 mixed thru mackie recording with sp-808ex. Rig all fits on the kitchen table.

Usually when I play out ill bring the cs and a buddy. The sh-32 or the esi or the kp3.

Not really a fan of mpc500 sound, I have to turn it up all the way and turn the gain up super high on the mixer.

Sh-32 the arp is kind of glitchy and crashes when you press buttons. But it sounds awesome. And I kinda like that its all right there in front of you. But its hard to save patches because if you touch a knob it will change your patch drastically. But this makes every time you play with it super organic and keeps it fresh. Great lfo and arp.

I really like the esi sound it sounds real fat for drums and I got it for $100 on craigslist. No filters and no effects though. I can't figure out how to send it anything but mod. I can't find an adsr. And it hangs when you load samples. Baw.

Ensoniq sound is famously huge. wu tang is all ensoniq. Right? And I hear that you can load the samples while playing on an ensoniq?
On Feb 25, 2011 4:33 PM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:



Anyone else discovered this wonderful combo besides Tweedie?
Not too bad at all. You can override that turd ASR-X sequencer very easily with the Command Station
and just use the ASR-X as a desktop sampler/sound module. Great hardware sound in these units

when you just don't want to be around a laptop. Although, both I feel both are necessary as they
both have their strong points.

I have the compact flash mod done on my ASR-X and I highly recommend getting a zip drive if you

can get the scsi card.


Re: CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-27 by dutchbeats

cf reader with the asr-x? i thought it was not possible? please explain!




--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
>
> what a joke
> 
> I'll run circles around Tomtell with gear knowledge, Matt.   you already
> know this
> 
> late
> 
> 
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 11:22 AM, TOMTEL <doggtel@...> wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > Hey Matt.  You go, keep doing your thing. I listened to some of your music
> > and I think you are doing good for as long as you've been doing it. Just
> > keep learning and don't let others tell you what you need or don't need. Get
> > what you want when you can afford do get it, and....keep making
> > music. TOMTEL
> >
> > --- On Fri, 2/25/11, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Matt <somatt@...>
> >
> > Subject: Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo
> > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 7:48 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If only I can find one. Or maybe eps16+rack for cheap.
> >
> > Right now I have set up px7 with mpc500, kaoss pad 3, esi-2000, and roland
> > sh-32 mixed thru mackie recording with sp-808ex. Rig all fits on the kitchen
> > table.
> >
> > Usually when I play out ill bring the cs and a buddy.  The sh-32 or the esi
> > or the kp3.
> >
> > Not really a fan of mpc500 sound, I have to turn it up all the way and turn
> > the gain up super high on the mixer.
> >
> > Sh-32 the arp is kind of glitchy and crashes when you press buttons. But it
> > sounds awesome.  And I kinda like that its all right there in front of you.
> > But its hard to save patches because if you touch a knob it will change your
> > patch drastically.  But this makes every time you play with it super organic
> > and keeps it fresh.  Great lfo and arp.
> >
> > I really like the esi sound it sounds real fat for drums and I got it for
> > $100 on craigslist. No filters and no effects though. I can't figure out how
> > to send it anything but mod. I can't find an adsr. And it hangs when you
> > load samples.  Baw.
> >
> > Ensoniq sound is famously huge.  wu tang is all ensoniq. Right? And I hear
> > that you can load the samples while playing on an ensoniq?
> > On Feb 25, 2011 4:33 PM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone else discovered this wonderful combo besides Tweedie?
> > Not too bad at all. You can override that turd ASR-X sequencer very easily
> > with the Command Station
> > and just use the ASR-X as a desktop sampler/sound module.   Great hardware
> > sound in these units
> >
> > when you just don't want to be around a laptop.  Although, both I feel both
> > are necessary as they
> > both have their strong points.
> >
> > I have the compact flash mod done on my ASR-X and I highly recommend
> > getting a zip drive if you
> >
> > can get the scsi card.
> >
> >  
> >
>

Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-27 by Matt

I have rs7k in the corner never used but once. Bought as impulse because it came with 8 outs and a bunch of other stuff. Can't figure the work flow out by just playing and don't even want to start with the 4 inch thick instruction manual.
I hear this thing is ableton on a board... too bad I have no idea how to use either one.

On Feb 27, 2011 1:54 AM, "mr geee hgt" <hgt55@...> wrote:

i prefer the sequencer of the rs7000 in cunjunction with the asrx. i have a a second asrx pro(scsi) for sale here in berlin. interested?
rs7000+asrx=dopeass beats
cs+some mono synths=serious bas+arp heaven

hgt



On 26.02.2011, at 06:15, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> i have no idea a...

Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-27 by Matt

I am mostly using the esi for drums because the roms on the cs sound thin, I use the sh-32 for switching up the beat with the drum arp, and for synthy stuff and some cs patches I made for wobbles and basslines. Kaoss pad for glitch effects. Mixer fx for verb (which sucks).
I don't need a studio full of gear but I use most of my stuff pretty regularly. I have only been doing this for under 2 years so I am still choosing my tools. I buy stuff for less than market and if I don't enjoy it I flip it for market just as fast. Recently I have been dumping gear. Sold alesis d4 I got free. Sold microkorg for what I paid into it.
I9;m very prolific right now as far as making patterns on the cs, but I haven't yet really made a 'song' or 'album'.This is because I have tons of ideas and moving to fast to record them or perfect them. That's adhd for sure. So far most of my best stuff is lost forever.
I record almost everything that I do record live in one take. Usually on 2 channels after a mixer. I try to program patterns on the fly. I try to keep everything new and fresh and freestyle.
Currently making space gangsta/glitchy wobbly crunkstep. I write a beat then I write raps and perform/record them live 5 minutes later in one take and currently if it sounds shoddy I don't give a shit as long as I'm having fun and the idea is sketched out. I'm not getting paid for this... yet.
Need to work on: song structure, recording and mixdown.
Need to collaborate more. With all types of artists. I learn new stuff from everything. I really like to incorporate new styles. I have been incorporating lots of reggae styles. I love the guitar riffs from beat garden perfect for reggae. I have also been trying to do tribal beats with weird triplets congas and hand drums.
1 year ago my friends said "u sound ok I guess but not my style". Now they think I sound good and invite me to play the party. So that's a step up for me.
Need to build my artist roster... my friends and I are trying to start a performance crew/label for fun.
Cs best purchase ever... no matter what I plug it into.
-matt

On Feb 27, 2011 8:20 AM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...>; wrote:

Maybe rich was the wrong word. I mean wasteful, actually. There are too many clowns on Youtube running around town with a ton of stuff midi'd up making really poor electronic music with a ton of gear. Used hardware is cheap these days. I'm not talking joker $100 stuff like chewed up Electribes and MC-303's and toy stuff like that. I'm talking Genoq Octopuss's and modulars, and cult analog synths, etc. Anyone can collect shelves of junk that's buggy and has seen the rounds. I'm not talking stuff like that. My point was that it's better to have two or 3 machines and just use those machines to make music with, verses constantly chasing gear for years on and end never make anything. There is a point where a person needs to say hey, I need to record some music here with what I got and the next box isn't going to help me or serve me any better if I don't stop this mad chase for kit all day long. That was my point. I'm guilty of this. Few people have the nuts to look in the mirror that way and actually take in account of this verses the mad gear rampage that most of us fall into. Some of the best albums ever recorded was made with very little and I don't think most people are aware of this (or care). Anyways, do what you guys want. You don't need my blessing or permission. I'm just sayin. :)







On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 5:24 AM, TOMTEL <doggtel@...> wrote:
>
>
>
> I don't understan...

Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-27 by Matt

Thanks! Glad you like!
soundcloud.com/sabotage

On Feb 27, 2011 6:50 AM, "TOMTEL" <doggtel@...> wrote:

Hey Matt. You go, keep doing your thing. I listened to some of your music and I think you are doing good for as long as you've been doing it. Just keep learning and don't let others tell you what you need or don't need. Get what you want when you can afford do get it, and....keep making music. TOMTEL

--- On Fri, 2/25/11, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:

From: Matt <somatt@...>


Subject: Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com

Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 7:48 PM





If only I can find one. Or maybe eps16+rack for cheap.

Right now I have set up px7 with mpc50...

Re: [xl7] Re: CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-28 by James Ulibarri

as far as I know.., mine has a mod that no other ASR-X has.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRpb3X3Op1I

instead of pulling out the floppy drive... the compact flash card goes where the optional scsi port is located. freakin brilliant. i paid $400 for the beast as i just had to have it.
the guy said he won't do another one as it was a pain in the bum.

two gig beast pig



On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:19 AM, dutchbeats <dutchbeats@...> wrote:

cf reader with the asr-x? i thought it was not possible? please explain!



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri wrote:
>
> what a joke
>
> I'll run circles around Tomtell with gear knowledge, Matt. you already
> know this
>
> late
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 11:22 AM, TOMTEL wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hey Matt. You go, keep doing your thing. I listened to some of your music
> > and I think you are doing good for as long as you've been doing it. Just
> > keep learning and don't let others tell you what you need or don't need. Get
> > what you want when you can afford do get it, and....keep making
> > music. TOMTEL
> >
> > --- On Fri, 2/25/11, Matt wrote:
> >
> > From: Matt <somatt@...>

> >
> > Subject: Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo
> > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 7:48 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If only I can find one. Or maybe eps16+rack for cheap.
> >
> > Right now I have set up px7 with mpc500, kaoss pad 3, esi-2000, and roland
> > sh-32 mixed thru mackie recording with sp-808ex. Rig all fits on the kitchen
> > table.
> >
> > Usually when I play out ill bring the cs and a buddy. The sh-32 or the esi
> > or the kp3.
> >
> > Not really a fan of mpc500 sound, I have to turn it up all the way and turn
> > the gain up super high on the mixer.
> >
> > Sh-32 the arp is kind of glitchy and crashes when you press buttons. But it
> > sounds awesome. And I kinda like that its all right there in front of you.
> > But its hard to save patches because if you touch a knob it will change your
> > patch drastically. But this makes every time you play with it super organic
> > and keeps it fresh. Great lfo and arp.
> >
> > I really like the esi sound it sounds real fat for drums and I got it for
> > $100 on craigslist. No filters and no effects though. I can't figure out how
> > to send it anything but mod. I can't find an adsr. And it hangs when you
> > load samples. Baw.
> >
> > Ensoniq sound is famously huge. wu tang is all ensoniq. Right? And I hear
> > that you can load the samples while playing on an ensoniq?
> > On Feb 25, 2011 4:33 PM, "James Ulibarri" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone else discovered this wonderful combo besides Tweedie?
> > Not too bad at all. You can override that turd ASR-X sequencer very easily
> > with the Command Station
> > and just use the ASR-X as a desktop sampler/sound module. Great hardware
> > sound in these units
> >
> > when you just don't want to be around a laptop. Although, both I feel both
> > are necessary as they
> > both have their strong points.
> >
> > I have the compact flash mod done on my ASR-X and I highly recommend
> > getting a zip drive if you
> >
> > can get the scsi card.
> >
> >
> >
>


Re: [xl7] Re: CS + ASR-X combo

2011-02-28 by James Ulibarri

anyone using Chicken System's ASR-X tools? I know they're supposed to be coming out with a new version anytime now. I think it's worth the $60. They claim that there are hidden features in the unit that you can't pull out with the front panel. Interesting. I think it would be easier than menu burried in the menu like I am now.

I also wonder if anyone has built a Sysex map for the ASR-X for the Behringer or Mackie C4-Pro. That would be fierce.

tomorrow I'll be connecting the ASR-X to the CS's midi input and quantizing in real time mode to see how these two play in that configuration, and then twisting some CS knobs from there. a win-win


On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:42 PM, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
as far as I know.., mine has a mod that no other ASR-X has.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRpb3X3Op1I

instead of pulling out the floppy drive... the compact flash card goes where the optional scsi port is located. freakin brilliant. i paid $400 for the beast as i just had to have it.
the guy said he won't do another one as it was a pain in the bum.

two gig beast pig




On Sun, Feb 27, 2011 at 11:19 AM, dutchbeats <dutchbeats@...> wrote:

cf reader with the asr-x? i thought it was not possible? please explain!



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri wrote:
>
> what a joke
>
> I'll run circles around Tomtell with gear knowledge, Matt. you already
> know this
>
> late
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 26, 2011 at 11:22 AM, TOMTEL wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Hey Matt. You go, keep doing your thing. I listened to some of your music
> > and I think you are doing good for as long as you've been doing it. Just
> > keep learning and don't let others tell you what you need or don't need. Get
> > what you want when you can afford do get it, and....keep making
> > music. TOMTEL
> >
> > --- On Fri, 2/25/11, Matt > >
> > From: Matt

> >
> > Subject: Re: [xl7] CS + ASR-X combo
> >; To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, February 25, 2011, 7:48 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > If only I can find one. Or maybe eps16+rack for cheap.
> >
> > Right now I have set up px7 with mpc500, kaoss pad 3, esi-2000, and roland
> > sh-32 mixed thru mackie recording with sp-808ex. Rig all fits on the kitchen
> > table.
> >
> > Usually when I play out ill bring the cs and a buddy. The sh-32 or the esi
> >; or the kp3.
> >
> > Not really a fan of mpc500 sound, I have to turn it up all the way and turn
> > the gain up super high on the mixer.
> >
> > Sh-32 the arp is kind of glitchy and crashes when you press buttons. But it
> > sounds awesome. And I kinda like that its all right there in front of you.
> >; But its hard to save patches because if you touch a knob it will change your
> > patch drastically. But this makes every time you play with it super organic
> > and keeps it fresh. Great lfo and arp.
> >
> > I really like the esi sound it sounds real fat for drums and I got it for
> > $100 on craigslist. No filters and no effects though. I can't figure out how
> > to send it anything but mod. I can't find an adsr. And it hangs when you
> > load samples. Baw.
> >
> > Ensoniq sound is famously huge. wu tang is all ensoniq. Right? And I hear
> > that you can load the samples while playing on an ensoniq?
> > On Feb 25, 2011 4:33 PM, "James Ulibarri" wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Anyone else discovered this wonderful combo besides Tweedie?
> > Not too bad at all. You can override that turd ASR-X sequencer very easily
> >; with the Command Station
> > and just use the ASR-X as a desktop sampler/sound module. Great hardware
> > sound in these units
> >
> > when you just don't want to be around a laptop. Although, both I feel both
> > are necessary as they
> > both have their strong points.
> >
> > I have the compact flash mod done on my ASR-X and I highly recommend
> > getting a zip drive if you
> >
> > can get the scsi card.
> >
> >
> >
>