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quantization is destructive

quantization is destructive

2010-09-13 by James Ulibarri

I brought this up last week I believe. And no one piped in. The only work around I have found is to make duplicate
copies of your non quantized pattern and make like 5 copies of the pattern. Then you can start applying quantization
values to each pattern and see which one you like best. A person can make a quantization adjustment with
a different timing signature and amount of swing, but that pattern seems seems "colored" by a preexisting attempt attempt
of applying swing to it by going back and trying to tweak it furthur. Sometimes that sounds and sometimes it doesn't.
It doesn't seem like an exact science everytime. So I think it's better to start with a new un-quantized part each time which is why I make all the copies
first. Unfortunately, it's not Roland MV-8800 where you can apply quantization in real-time and it's non-destructive. I sometimes think about switching over
to the MV.

Re: [xl7] quantization is destructive

2010-09-14 by Aaron Eppolito

Well, after looking through the admin messages, I see that James is gone.  That 
said, he did ask a good question.

My suggestion?  Save the pattern.  Try the quantize.  If you didn't like it, use 
the Revert to Saved function.

I wish I had added some form of undo, but it was always one of those things that 
got pushed off the feature list.  In lieu of undo, the "save, do, revert" trick 
is what I use.  In fact, I use it all the time, even before recording or even 
*while* recording.

-Aaron



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From: James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Mon, September 13, 2010 3:40:28 PM
Subject: [xl7] quantization is destructive

  

I brought this up last week I believe.  And no one piped in.   The only work 
around I have found is to make duplicate
copies of your non quantized pattern and make like 5 copies of the pattern.  
Then you can start applying quantization
values to each pattern and see which one you like best.  A person can make a 
quantization adjustment with
a different timing signature and amount of swing, but that pattern seems seems 
"colored" by a preexisting attempt attempt
of applying swing to it by going back and trying to tweak it furthur.  Sometimes 
that sounds and sometimes it doesn't. 

It doesn't seem like an exact science everytime.   So I think it's better to 
start with a new un-quantized part each time which is why I make all the copies
first.    Unfortunately, it's not Roland MV-8800 where you can apply 
quantization in real-time and it's non-destructive. I sometimes think about 
switching over
to the MV.

Re: [xl7] quantization is destructive

2010-09-15 by Narcissus

Yes, i always do that. It´s like working on your PC, you save from time to time in case of a freezing OS. I do the same with my patterns : if the last change wasn`t cool, i revert to the saved pattern