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16 control knobs - sysex ?

16 control knobs - sysex ?

2010-08-31 by James Ulibarri

Has anyone tried throwing any sysex messages from the Command Stations control knobs?
I am interested in controlling a Yamaha TX-7 or Akai S5000. I know it throws CC's like crazy, but not sure about Sysex messages.
Now if it does, is there Midi Learn to latch parameters quickly without getting all crazy into the hex/dex stuff.
I think I already know the answer to that regarding any sysex stuff being painless and easy. Forget about it.
I know the Behringer knob boxes, Mackie C4 Pro, Peavy pc1600 allowed for this kind of think but I am not sure about the Command Stations.
I may be asking too much from the little guy.

Re: 16 control knobs - sysex ?

2010-09-01 by steve_the_composer

I have done quite a bit with sysex and the P2500. Basically the knobs do not send CC. You can do stuff with sysex in remote control mode, but that is really using sysex to control the e-mu remotely.

If you go into remote control mode (see sysex manual), you can view what sysex knobs and buttons send by using e-loader's midi monitor (or any other mini monitor).

I know I have done some charts correlating sysex but I am not sure if its posted here or in the P2K group.

I don't have my sysex manual out, but I suggest you read the section on remote control.  BTW, not all of what can be done via remote control sysex is documented in the manual. Read through the archives, too. A few of us have discussed it over the years.

Also, although the CS will not record/edit sysex, you can embed sysex commands in patterns by uploading a *.mid file with e-loader. I wrote extensively about it, but I may have removed the posts/files in order to reorganize it--which I never did.

--Steve

 

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried throwing any sysex messages from the Command Stations
> control knobs?
> I am interested in controlling a Yamaha TX-7 or Akai S5000.   I know it
> throws CC's like crazy, but not sure about Sysex messages.
> Now if it does, is there Midi Learn to latch parameters quickly without
> getting all crazy into the hex/dex stuff.
> I think I already know the answer to that regarding any sysex stuff being
> painless and easy.  Forget about it.
> I know the Behringer knob boxes, Mackie C4 Pro, Peavy pc1600 allowed for
> this kind of think but I am not sure about the Command Stations.
> I may be asking too much from the little guy.
>

Re: 16 control knobs - sysex ?

2010-09-01 by steve_the_composer

PS: Dec 2009 someone must have asked something about sysex or remote control as I found my table and posted some sample embedded sysex *.mid files.  Use at your own risk!

http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/files/SYSEX/

Re: [xl7] Re: 16 control knobs - sysex ?

2010-09-01 by James Ulibarri

" Basically the knobs do not send CC."

Maybe not in the 2500, but the PX-7 does. It throws CC's like crazy. Make sure you enable yours in Global.

I think I'll pick up a Doepfer Regelwerk actually. A little bit on the expensive side but i'll make it happen.
Good looking out on the links and info though.

Thanks

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:14 PM, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:

I have done quite a bit with sysex and the P2500. Basically the knobs do not send CC. You can do stuff with sysex in remote control mode, but that is really using sysex to control the e-mu remotely.

If you go into remote control mode (see sysex manual), you can view what sysex knobs and buttons send by using e-loader's midi monitor (or any other mini monitor).

I know I have done some charts correlating sysex but I am not sure if its posted here or in the P2K group.

I don't have my sysex manual out, but I suggest you read the section on remote control. BTW, not all of what can be done via remote control sysex is documented in the manual. Read through the archives, too. A few of us have discussed it over the years.

Also, although the CS will not record/edit sysex, you can embed sysex commands in patterns by uploading a *.mid file with e-loader. I wrote extensively about it, but I may have removed the posts/files in order to reorganize it--which I never did.

--Steve



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri wrote:
>
> Has anyone tried throwing any sysex messages from the Command Stations
> control knobs?
> I am interested in controlling a Yamaha TX-7 or Akai S5000. I know it
> throws CC's like crazy, but not sure about Sysex messages.
> Now if it does, is there Midi Learn to latch parameters quickly without
> getting all crazy into the hex/dex stuff.
> I think I already know the answer to that regarding any sysex stuff being
>; painless and easy. Forget about it.
> I know the Behringer knob boxes, Mackie C4 Pro, Peavy pc1600 allowed for
> this kind of think but I am not sure about the Command Stations.
> I may be asking too much from the little guy.
>


Re: 16 control knobs - sysex ?

2010-09-01 by steve_the_composer

So much for typing a quick reply when I'm too tired to proofread. Obviously that was a typo--I typed CC instead of sysex. (I was thinking "do not send sysex, only CC" but it came out wrong. Thanks for catching the typo.
--Steve  

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@...> wrote:
>
> " Basically the knobs do not send CC."
> 
> Maybe not in the 2500, but the PX-7 does.   It throws CC's like crazy.  Make
> sure you enable yours in Global.
> 
> I think I'll pick up a Doepfer Regelwerk actually.   A little bit on the
> expensive side but i'll make it happen.
> Good looking out on the links and info though.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:14 PM, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > I have done quite a bit with sysex and the P2500. Basically the knobs do
> > not send CC. You can do stuff with sysex in remote control mode, but that is
> > really using sysex to control the e-mu remotely.
> >
> > If you go into remote control mode (see sysex manual), you can view what
> > sysex knobs and buttons send by using e-loader's midi monitor (or any other
> > mini monitor).
> >
> > I know I have done some charts correlating sysex but I am not sure if its
> > posted here or in the P2K group.
> >
> > I don't have my sysex manual out, but I suggest you read the section on
> > remote control. BTW, not all of what can be done via remote control sysex is
> > documented in the manual. Read through the archives, too. A few of us have
> > discussed it over the years.
> >
> > Also, although the CS will not record/edit sysex, you can embed sysex
> > commands in patterns by uploading a *.mid file with e-loader. I wrote
> > extensively about it, but I may have removed the posts/files in order to
> > reorganize it--which I never did.
> >
> > --Steve
> >
> >
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com <xl7%40yahoogroups.com>, James Ulibarri
> > <jamesulibarri@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Has anyone tried throwing any sysex messages from the Command Stations
> > > control knobs?
> > > I am interested in controlling a Yamaha TX-7 or Akai S5000. I know it
> > > throws CC's like crazy, but not sure about Sysex messages.
> > > Now if it does, is there Midi Learn to latch parameters quickly without
> > > getting all crazy into the hex/dex stuff.
> > > I think I already know the answer to that regarding any sysex stuff being
> > > painless and easy. Forget about it.
> > > I know the Behringer knob boxes, Mackie C4 Pro, Peavy pc1600 allowed for
> > > this kind of think but I am not sure about the Command Stations.
> > > I may be asking too much from the little guy.
> > >
> >
> >  
> >
>