Gig or road case for live shows
2010-08-20 by Matt
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2010-08-20 by Matt
Any recommendations? I need to tote the following gear:
*px-7
*kaoss pad
*microkorg
*mackie profx12 mixer
*electribe
*Roland tr-505 drums
*miscellaneous midi & audio cables
Thanks in advance
Matt
2010-08-20 by James Ulibarri
Any recommendations? I need to tote the following gear:
*px-7
*kaoss pad
*microkorg
*mackie profx12 mixer
*electribe
*Roland tr-505 drums
*miscellaneous midi & audio cables
Thanks in advance
Matt
Re: [xl7] Gig or road case for live shows
2010-08-20 by Matt
That might work. Are there any types of cases that might double as a performance surface like some type of dj coffin or something? Hopefully something that I could put on a keyboard stand?
I'm sure the djs don't want me setting my stuff up on their turntables and I like the flexibility of performing on a stage or at the front of the dancefloor rather than being stuck in the dj Booth, especially since I'm trying to incorporate vocoded rap and vocals into my performances.
Additionally it would be helpful to be able to set up concurrently while a dj is playing his set so there's minimal interference with their music before my set.
I9;m new to gigging so any advice is super helpful.
Thanks,
MattOn Aug 20, 2010 3:51 PM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@gmail.com> wrote:
A nice big Pelican Case with wheels and retractable handle and a custom foam job in the inside. Pricey but would definitely work.
On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote:
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2010-08-21 by bobsvitilla
I am also looking for a case for my Command Station. What has worked for you folks and what has not been up to the task of gigging? Thanks --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Matt <somatt@...> wrote: > > That might work. Are there any types of cases that might double as a > performance surface like some type of dj coffin or something? Hopefully > something that I could put on a keyboard stand? > I'm sure the djs don't want me setting my stuff up on their turntables and I > like the flexibility of performing on a stage or at the front of the > dancefloor rather than being stuck in the dj Booth, especially since I'm > trying to incorporate vocoded rap and vocals into my performances. > Additionally it would be helpful to be able to set up concurrently while a > dj is playing his set so there's minimal interference with their music > before my set. > I'm new to gigging so any advice is super helpful. > Thanks, > Matt > > On Aug 20, 2010 3:51 PM, "James Ulibarri" <jamesulibarri@...> wrote: > > > > A nice big Pelican Case with wheels and retractable handle and a custom foam > job in the inside. Pricey but would definitely work. > > > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 3:08 PM, Matt <somatt@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Any recommendations? I ne... >Re: [xl7] Re: Gig or road case for live shows
2010-08-21 by Greg Waltzer
A vintage piece of Samsonite or American Tourister luggage does the job quite nicely, and can found found at garage sales or flea markets for a few dollars. bobsvitilla wrote: > > > > I am also looking for a case for my Command Station. What has worked > for you folks and what has not been up to the task of gigging? > > >Re: [xl7] Re: Gig or road case for live shows
2010-08-21 by Bob S.
You guys have a lot of ideas....take a picture or two of each case recommendation and put it up in the folder I just created for Command Station Cases....let's see what they look like (maybe with the command station inside it and maybe we will give some token prizes for various categories).....thanks...I have a couple of cases myself I will upload....BobEl Segundo, CA----- Original Message -----From: Greg WaltzerSent: Saturday, August 21, 2010 07:56Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Gig or road case for live showsA vintage piece of Samsonite or American Tourister luggage does the job
quite nicely, and can found found at garage sales or flea markets for a
few dollars.
bobsvitilla wrote:
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> I am also looking for a case for my Command Station. What has worked
> for you folks and what has not been up to the task of gigging?
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2010-08-21 by Gabriel Scott
I don't know if anyone has already said this, and I think you even mentioned it but...
I gig and tour a lot. When I'm on the road I use an old school DJ coffin designed for Turntables (not cd players) I found the XL7 fits very snug in one of the sides and I used the other side for a second drum machine and sampler. In the center where the rack for the mixer is I had some active lighting, a dimmer pack and fog machine controller which left enough room to carefully pack the fog machine in when not on stage. Also since everything was already plugged in to power strips and extension chords I just popped the top off and was up and running in minutes.
As a rock type show sandwiched between other bands and drummers who want to be "rockstars" instead of striking their kits, I made friends and allies out of many a sound man by being so self sufficient. I also of course had all electronics plugged in and run to DI boxes so they just had to run me an XLR or two and I was running. I was often ready for them before they were ready for me.
I carry a collapsible table as ithe DJ coffin is a bit too heavy for just a keyboard stand. But I also thing the bulk and strength of it has both saved my equipt' in the inevitable bumps and crashes and I swear it kept my whole system from getting stolen on tour once. (they grabbed suitcases of merch and not the giant heavy gray carpeted box. I know for a fact they were trying to steal the xl7, as someone was over heard saying "i want that drum machine" moments before things disappeared)
Anyway, on one last side note, and you probably already know these types of things for your music but since I learned the hard way I'll pass it on in case it helps...
If you're playing in clubs where you're dealing with different sound guys night after night, have them go very easy on noise gates and limiters/compressors, they'll rob you of your quieter parts, and if you're depending on those to cue the vox 2 bars in you've got problems. And I've gone to sending a mono signal to the board since with the stereo send, I've found many a sound man constantly trying to re adjust everything from song to song, where a "set it and forget it" approach would have been better. Most of them only know how to enhance a rock band where most of the room sound is coming straight off the stage. When all sound is in their hands and coming from only two sets of speakers most of the rules and their whole approach changes and usually at your expense. It costs me a small amount of stereo spread but gaines me tons of overall sound improvement. If you have your own sound guy then don't sweat that.
OK I hope that all helps
: )
Gabriel Scott
The Bleeder Project
--- On Sat, 8/21/10, Greg Waltzer wrote:
From: Greg Waltzer
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Gig or road case for live shows
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, August 21, 2010, 7:56 AMA vintage piece of Samsonite or American Tourister luggage does the job
quite nicely, and can found found at garage sales or flea markets for a
few dollars.
bobsvitilla wrote:
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> I am also looking for a case for my Command Station. What has worked
> for you folks and what has not been up to the task of gigging?
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Re: [xl7] Re: Gig or road case for live shows
2010-08-21 by James Ulibarri
The RokSak bag works just fine. It's like super soft red padded felt in there. This is something I would use as a "carry on" on a plane. It's not an ATA approved case, obviously because it's soft, and would definitely not send it on a plane unless you want your Command Station turned to applesauce by the guys who load and unload luggage. But it works great to strap on your shoulder in and out of a gig. You also have another huge pocket for cables and whatever else. You can also put a laptop in the second pocket. I've done this too.
Here is a link but this guy is out of business. Click on View Product Images to see the inside.
http://www.theavenuesinstruments.com/catalog/item/3917202/3695747.htm
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Gabriel Scott <GABRIELSCOTT@...> wrote:I don't know if anyone has already said this, and I think you even mentioned it but...
I gig and tour a lot. When I'm on the road I use an old school DJ coffin designed for Turntables (not cd players) I found the XL7 fits very snug in one of the sides and I used the other side for a second drum machine and sampler. In the center where the rack for the mixer is I had some active lighting, a dimmer pack and fog machine controller which left enough room to carefully pack the fog machine in when not on stage. Also since everything was already plugged in to power strips and extension chords I just popped the top off and was up and running in minutes.
As a rock type show sandwiched between other bands and drummers who want to be "rockstars" instead of striking their kits, I made friends and allies out of many a sound man by being so self sufficient. I also of course had all electronics plugged in and run to DI boxes so they just had to run me an XLR or two and I was running. I was often ready for them before they were ready for me.
I carry a collapsible table as ithe DJ coffin is a bit too heavy for just a keyboard stand. But I also thing the bulk and strength of it has both saved my equipt9; in the inevitable bumps and crashes and I swear it kept my whole system from getting stolen on tour once. (they grabbed suitcases of merch and not the giant heavy gray carpeted box. I know for a fact they were trying to steal the xl7, as someone was over heard saying "i want that drum machine" moments before things disappeared)
Anyway, on one last side note, and you probably already know these types of things for your music but since I learned the hard way I'll pass it on in case it helps...
If you're playing in clubs where you're dealing with different sound guys night after night, have them go very easy on noise gates and limiters/compressors, they'll rob you of your quieter parts, and if you9;re depending on those to cue the vox 2 bars in you've got problems. And I've gone to sending a mono signal to the board since with the stereo send, I've found many a sound man constantly trying to re adjust everything from song to song, where a "set it and forget it" approach would have been better. Most of them only know how to enhance a rock band where most of the room sound is coming straight off the stage. When all sound is in their hands and coming from only two sets of speakers most of the rules and their whole approach changes and usually at your expense. It costs me a small amount of stereo spread but gaines me tons of overall sound improvement. If you have your own sound guy then don't sweat that.
OK I hope that all helps
: )
Gabriel Scott
The Bleeder Project
--- On Sat, 8/21/10, Greg Waltzer <egw@...> wrote:
From: Greg Waltzer <egw@...>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Gig or road case for live shows
Date: Saturday, August 21, 2010, 7:56 AMA vintage piece of Samsonite or American Tourister luggage does the job------------------------------------
quite nicely, and can found found at garage sales or flea markets for a
few dollars.
bobsvitilla wrote:
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> I am also looking for a case for my Command Station. What has worked
> for you folks and what has not been up to the task of gigging?
>
>
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Re: [xl7] Re: Gig or road case for live shows
2010-08-21 by James Ulibarri
You have a lot more options too if have the rack ears. SKB Pop Case or Gator Pop Case. They make an 8U case.
It looks sick.On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 10:31 AM, James Ulibarri <jamesulibarri@gmail.com> wrote:
The RokSak bag works just fine. It's like super soft red padded felt in there. This is something I would use as a "carry on" on a plane. It's not an ATA approved case, obviously because it's soft, and would definitely not send it on a plane unless you want your Command Station turned to applesauce by the guys who load and unload luggage. But it works great to strap on your shoulder in and out of a gig. You also have another huge pocket for cables and whatever else. You can also put a laptop in the second pocket. I've done this too.
Here is a link but this guy is out of business. Click on View Product Images to see the inside.
http://www.theavenuesinstruments.com/catalog/item/3917202/3695747.htm
On Sat, Aug 21, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Gabriel Scott <GABRIELSCOTT@yahoo.com> wrote:I don't know if anyone has already said this, and I think you even mentioned it but...
I gig and tour a lot. When I'm on the road I use an old school DJ coffin designed for Turntables (not cd players) I found the XL7 fits very snug in one of the sides and I used the other side for a second drum machine and sampler. In the center where the rack for the mixer is I had some active lighting, a dimmer pack and fog machine controller which left enough room to carefully pack the fog machine in when not on stage. Also since everything was already plugged in to power strips and extension chords I just popped the top off and was up and running in minutes.
As a rock type show sandwiched between other bands and drummers who want to be "rockstars" instead of striking their kits, I made friends and allies out of many a sound man by being so self sufficient. I also of course had all electronics plugged in and run to DI boxes so they just had to run me an XLR or two and I was running. I was often ready for them before they were ready for me.
I carry a collapsible table as ithe DJ coffin is a bit too heavy for just a keyboard stand. But I also thing the bulk and strength of it has both saved my equipt' in the inevitable bumps and crashes and I swear it kept my whole system from getting stolen on tour once. (they grabbed suitcases of merch and not the giant heavy gray carpeted box. I know for a fact they were trying to steal the xl7, as someone was over heard saying "i want that drum machine" moments before things disappeared)
Anyway, on one last side note, and you probably already know these types of things for your music but since I learned the hard way I'll pass it on in case it helps...
If you're playing in clubs where you're dealing with different sound guys night after night, have them go very easy on noise gates and limiters/compressors, they'll rob you of your quieter parts, and if you're depending on those to cue the vox 2 bars in you've got problems. And I've gone to sending a mono signal to the board since with the stereo send, I've found many a sound man constantly trying to re adjust everything from song to song, where a "set it and forget it" approach would have been better. Most of them only know how to enhance a rock band where most of the room sound is coming straight off the stage. When all sound is in their hands and coming from only two sets of speakers most of the rules and their whole approach changes and usually at your expense. It costs me a small amount of stereo spread but gaines me tons of overall sound improvement. If you have your own sound guy then don't sweat that.
OK I hope that all helps
: )
Gabriel Scott
The Bleeder Project
--- On Sat, 8/21/10, Greg Waltzer <egw@...> wrote:
From: Greg Waltzer <egw@...>To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Gig or road case for live shows
Date: Saturday, August 21, 2010, 7:56 AMA vintage piece of Samsonite or American Tourister luggage does the job------------------------------------
quite nicely, and can found found at garage sales or flea markets for a
few dollars.
bobsvitilla wrote:
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> I am also looking for a case for my Command Station. What has worked
> for you folks and what has not been up to the task of gigging?
>
>
>
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Re: Gig or road case for live shows
2010-08-21 by David Cunningham
I've been looking at cases for my gear and have one of those big Pelican cases which holds a lot of stuff, TR-707, MP-7, Radias, TX-7, QX-5, MPD-32. They are extremely expensive however so I went searching for cases for my keyboards and found this site some time ago. Worth checking out if you have the time. http://www.do-it-yourselfroadcases.com/home.htmlRe: Gig or road case for live shows
2010-08-22 by Dumeril
I've had a lot of success making platform boards cut to size to fit in a keyboard case, then using industrial strength velcro to attach tabletop gear to the boards. With that arrangement, you can leave stuff attached to the boards where they'll be secure in the case (trust me, the industrial strength velcro will hold stuff tight) and even leave patch & MIDI cables connected between gear on the same board. Set up is easy: just pull out the boards, place them on keyboard stands, and attach whatever cabling you need to run between gear on different boards. I paint the boards black so they look nicer, and typically I'll need to remove the rubber feet on gear so I have a nice flat surface to attach the velcro to. In order to keep boards from knocking around in the case, I'll lay a 2" piece of foam, cut to same size as the board, over the top of the board inside the case. You can get the foam from a fabric or a sporting goods store. D7 --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Matt <somatt@...> wrote: > > Any recommendations? I need to tote the following gear: > *px-7 > *kaoss pad > *microkorg > *mackie profx12 mixer > *electribe > *Roland tr-505 drums > *miscellaneous midi & audio cables > Thanks in advance > Matt >Re: [xl7] Re: Gig or road case for live shows
2010-08-22 by James Ulibarri
All good ideas. As I said, if you have the rack ears than you are in business.
Get one of these. I am going order a couple of them in a couple weeks. It's 8u and the Command Station is 6u,
so you will have a couple more spaces for another piece of kit that has a very shallow depth.
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/317209-REG/Gator_Cases_G_MIX_8_PU.html
It will look like this racked...
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/attachments/electronic-music-instruments-electronic-music-production/124258d1244513088-cheap-colorful-rack-synths-110207_17302.jpg
As you know you have to remove the plastic sides and save them somewhere off to the side.
Don't loose your screws in the process.
For those of you that don't have the ears, we should look into having some machined and powder coated or sending them to Middle
Atlantic and let them do it. Anyways, it's really secure after it's been racked. It's not going anywhere. Plus you look pretty cool when rolling into a gig with your command station in a case while totting it around with the rolling wheels and retractable handle.
On Sun, Aug 22, 2010 at 9:30 AM, Dumeril <dumeril7@...> wrote:I've had a lot of success making platform boards cut to size to fit in a keyboard case, then using industrial strength velcro to attach tabletop gear to the boards. With that arrangement, you can leave stuff attached to the boards where they'll be secure in the case (trust me, the industrial strength velcro will hold stuff tight) and even leave patch & MIDI cables connected between gear on the same board. Set up is easy: just pull out the boards, place them on keyboard stands, and attach whatever cabling you need to run between gear on different boards. I paint the boards black so they look nicer, and typically I'll need to remove the rubber feet on gear so I have a nice flat surface to attach the velcro to. In order to keep boards from knocking around in the case, I'll lay a 2" piece of foam, cut to same size as the board, over the top of the board inside the case. You can get the foam from a fabric or a sporting goods store.
D7> Any recommendations? I need to tote the following gear:
> *px-7
> *kaoss pad
> *microkorg
> *mackie profx12 mixer
> *electribe
> *Roland tr-505 drums
> *miscellaneous midi & audio cables
> Thanks in advance
> Matt
>
arp patterns
2012-01-01 by Greg Waltzer
Is there a way to backup arp patterns, or transfer them from one machine to another?Re: arp patterns
2012-01-02 by steve_the_composer
Absolutely! You can save user arp patterns as sysex data. It should be in the Arp menu system [SEND MIDI SYSEX DATA]. To upload them, I believe you just have to send the sysex data (making sure the sysex ID of the receiving machine is the same as the one used when they were saved). Hope this helps. Steve --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Greg Waltzer <egw@...> wrote: > > Is there a way to backup arp patterns, or transfer them from one machine > to another? >Re: [xl7] Re: arp patterns
2012-01-02 by Greg Waltzer
Thanks! I was looking in the MIDI menu. steve_the_composer wrote: > > > Absolutely! You can save user arp patterns as sysex data. It should be > in the Arp menu system [SEND MIDI SYSEX DATA]. To upload them, I > believe you just have to send the sysex data (making sure the sysex ID > of the receiving machine is the same as the one used when they were > saved). Hope this helps. > Steve > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com <mailto:xl7%40yahoogroups.com>, Greg > Waltzer <egw@...> wrote: > > > > Is there a way to backup arp patterns, or transfer them from one > machine > > to another? > > >