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[RE][xl7] w00t! brand new orbit-3!!

2010-04-14 by josh loughrey

Nice! Great find! The synth engine is the same as the XL-7, but the orbit doesn't have the sequencer. Studio-wise, using both would take your poly count up to 256, but tossing the ROMs in your XL-7 is one less bit of gear for live performance!

I also got a deal that is brag-worthy not too long ago. Picked up an XL-7 (sold a Roland MC-909 for it, though I do miss the effects on that box) for use as a live sequencer (driving a Virus B for the most part). I've been super busy with some projects, so I haven't had the time to delve into it that I'd like, but have been using it here and there on a couple film scores. I discovered that it came with a Beat Garden and Protean Drum ROM as well! I ebayed it from someone who confessed that they never had time to really use it, so they didn't know they were there either!

And, oh my god is the Beat Garden ROM good. I'm sure you'll enjoy it as much as I have been!

josh

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Subject : [xl7] w00t! brand new orbit-3!!

Date : Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:20:30 +1200 (NZST)

From : Atom Smasher

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i just picked up a brand new orbit-3!

in the box, original manual, plastic-cling is still on the display. and i

think i got it cheaper than the ROMs are worth...

am i correct in understanding that the synth engine is *identical* to the

XL7? the only difference is the interface?

at some point i'll study the beat-garden ROM, and think about how a 1U

yellow proteus-2k might compare against an XD-5...

for now, i think i may put the ROMs into the XL7 and hang on to the

chassis and hope that jack comes along with the sampling-hack... then i'll

turn in into a 1U yellow sampler (or sample-player?).

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Re: [RE][xl7] w00t! brand new orbit-3!!

2010-04-16 by Atom Smasher

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, josh loughrey wrote:

> Nice! Great find! The synth engine is the same as the XL-7, but the 
> orbit doesn't have the sequencer. Studio-wise, using both would take 
> your poly count up to 256, but tossing the ROMs in your XL-7 is one less 
> bit of gear for live performance!
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the poly count would go up to 256 (* some conditions apply)... but 128 
should be enough... for now ;)

but i'm not sure... the manual says that the ~synthesizer~ is 128 voice 
polyphonic... but what about the sequencer? is there a hard-limit to how 
many voices it can handle at once? filter types can also cut into 
polyphony; "if you decided to use all 12th order filters, XL-7 would be 
limited to 64 voices." -pg 221. the orbit is actually worse; "Orbit-3 can 
produce 64 filters of up to 6th order or 32 filters of 12th order 
complexity. Therefore, if you decided to use all 12th order filters, 
Orbit-3 would be limited to 32 voices." -pg 136-7. i doubt any of that 
well ever be a problem in real life.

the advantage of having all the ROMs together is the flexibility of the 
ARPs, BTSs, etc.

also... the XL7 (although i can't find it referenced in the manual, now) 
can't handle changes to the resonance while a note is playing... do the 
proteus modules (in my case an orbit-3) handle that? that might be a 
consideration... ok, from the manual, it ~seems~ like the orbit-3 has the 
same limitation... so unless i run out of polyphony or get the sequencer 
to stutter under a heavy load, i guess i'll keep all the ROMs in the XL7.

-- 
         ...atom

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 	"You must be," said the Cat,
 		"or you wouldn't have come here."
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Re: [RE][xl7] w00t! brand new orbit-3!!

2010-04-21 by Aaron Eppolito

The Orbit 3 is a 128 voice unit, but I think most of the Papen ROM sounds were stereo, and as such, used two voices per layer.  That does mean that if you put them in an XL-7, the same thing would apply.

On the bright side, it does mean that layer chorus is free...  ; )

-Aaron

PS. I could be making that up and the sounds are mono and the manual's wrong (or was based on a non-"turbo" model we never shipped).  I think I'm right though...

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From: Atom Smasher <atom@...>
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Sent: Fri, April 16, 2010 3:59:01 AM
Subject: Re: [RE][xl7] w00t! brand new orbit-3!!

On Wed, 14 Apr 2010, josh loughrey wrote:

> Nice! Great find! The synth engine is the same as the XL-7, but the 
> orbit doesn't have the sequencer. Studio-wise, using both would take 
> your poly count up to 256, but tossing the ROMs in your XL-7 is one less 
> bit of gear for live performance!
=====================

the poly count would go up to 256 (* some conditions apply)... but 128 
should be enough... for now ;)

but i'm not sure... the manual says that the ~synthesizer~ is 128 voice 
polyphonic... but what about the sequencer? is there a hard-limit to how 
many voices it can handle at once? filter types can also cut into 
polyphony; "if you decided to use all 12th order filters, XL-7 would be 
limited to 64 voices." -pg 221. the orbit is actually worse; "Orbit-3 can 
produce 64 filters of up to 6th order or 32 filters of 12th order 
complexity. Therefore, if you decided to use all 12th order filters, 
Orbit-3 would be limited to 32 voices." -pg 136-7. i doubt any of that 
well ever be a problem in real life.

the advantage of having all the ROMs together is the flexibility of the 
ARPs, BTSs, etc.

also... the XL7 (although i can't find it referenced in the manual, now) 
can't handle changes to the resonance while a note is playing... do the 
proteus modules (in my case an orbit-3) handle that? that might be a 
consideration... ok, from the manual, it ~seems~ like the orbit-3 has the 
same limitation... so unless i run out of polyphony or get the sequencer 
to stutter under a heavy load, i guess i'll keep all the ROMs in the XL7.

-- 
         ...atom

  ________________________
  http://atom.smasher.org/
  762A 3B98 A3C3 96C9 C6B7 582A B88D 52E4 D9F5 7808
  -------------------------------------------------

    "But I don't want to go among mad people," Alice remarked.
    "Oh, you can't help that," said the Cat.
        "We're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad."
    "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
    "You must be," said the Cat,
        "or you wouldn't have come here."
        -- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures in Wonderland

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