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2002-03-06 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
Actually the electribe clock is running slower. If the Electribe says it is running at 120, it's really running @ 119.79. >>>How did you measure this? Just curious as I need to measure some MIDI clock info (for Red Sound), but I'm not too sure about the best way to do it. Is there anyway to record MIDI Clock info linearly, so you dcould see any fluctuations over time? <<< rEalm
2002-03-06 by Andre Lewis
>>>How did you measure this? Just curious as I need to measure some MIDI clock info (for Red Sound), but I'm not too sure about the best way to do it. Is there anyway to record MIDI Clock info linearly, so you dcould see any fluctuations over time? <<<
2002-03-07 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
Working with them to try and troubleshoot why my XL-7 locks up and/or drifts randomly when synced to the Micro Sync. I got the XL-7 to compliment my DJ sets, and lately I've been having too many sync issues with it to use it that way (at least at my bigger gigs). So far it looks like it's an XL-7 issue, the ER-1 syncs up fine, never locks either. :( rEalm Are you working with Red Sound or just seeing if their products work?
2002-03-07 by Andre Lewis
-----Original Message-----
From: erik_magrini@... [mailto:erik_magrini@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:12 AM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [xl7] MIDI Clock issues
Working with them to try and troubleshoot why my XL-7 locks up and/or drifts randomly when synced to the Micro Sync. I got the XL-7 to compliment my DJ sets, and lately I've been having too many sync issues with it to use it that way (at least at my bigger gigs). So far it looks like it's an XL-7 issue, the ER-1 syncs up fine, never locks either. :(
rEalm
Are you working with Red Sound or just seeing if their products work?
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2002-03-11 by Roger Powell
The XL-7 cannot sync to external MIDI clock. I spoke with Emu support and it's a known issue (how could it not be?) and supposed to be getting fixed with the next OS. You can't use this box in a live situation, unless all you want to do is play back one pattern (and the box must be MIDI clock master.) It's such a great synth/seq -- too bad it has this terrible flaw. Forneau --- Andre Lewis <andrel@...> wrote: > I have the federation bpm pro, it does a fine job > with Midi clock, although > every once in a while it will hiccup and throw > everything off by a beat. > I'm not using it with the XL7 tho, it definately > uses subtempo/has it's own > clock speed. > > Andre > -----Original Message----- > From: erik_magrini@... > [mailto:erik_magrini@...] > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:12 AM > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [xl7] MIDI Clock issues > > > > Working with them to try and troubleshoot why my > XL-7 locks up and/or > drifts randomly when synced to the Micro Sync. I > got the XL-7 to compliment > my DJ sets, and lately I've been having too many > sync issues with it to use > it that way (at least at my bigger gigs). So far it > looks like it's an XL-7 > issue, the ER-1 syncs up fine, never locks either. > :( > > rEalm > > > > Are you working with Red Sound or just seeing if > their products work? > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > Terms of Service. > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! http://mail.yahoo.com/
2002-03-13 by donnellbailey
Hello all! I'm using the MP-7 with OS 1.18 and I have no problems
syncing it to none of my devices. Ensure that if you are going to
have the XL/MP-7 as the slave that the cables are connected correctly
and then go to the CONTROLLERS button and scroll all the way to the
end and make sure to set the base tempo to external (EXT). This will
immediately change the tempo to whatever tempo the master controller
is set at and if using the XL/MP-7 as the master ensure that this is
off and the slave device is setup correct. This should help you guys.
Donpoppie
--- In xl7@y..., Roger Powell <forneau@y...> wrote:> The XL-7 cannot sync to external MIDI clock. I spoke > with Emu support and it's a known issue (how could it > not be?) and supposed to be getting fixed with the > next OS. > > You can't use this box in a live situation, unless all > you want to do is play back one pattern (and the box > must be MIDI clock master.) > > It's such a great synth/seq -- too bad it has this > terrible flaw. > > Forneau > > --- Andre Lewis <andrel@s...> wrote: > > I have the federation bpm pro, it does a fine job > > with Midi clock, although > > every once in a while it will hiccup and throw > > everything off by a beat. > > I'm not using it with the XL7 tho, it definately > > uses subtempo/has it's own > > clock speed. > > > > Andre > > -----Original Message----- > > From: erik_magrini@B... > > [mailto:erik_magrini@B...] > > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 5:12 AM > > To: xl7@y... > > Subject: RE: [xl7] MIDI Clock issues > > > > > > > > Working with them to try and troubleshoot why my > > XL-7 locks up and/or > > drifts randomly when synced to the Micro Sync. I > > got the XL-7 to compliment > > my DJ sets, and lately I've been having too many > > sync issues with it to use > > it that way (at least at my bigger gigs). So far it > > looks like it's an XL-7 > > issue, the ER-1 syncs up fine, never locks either. > > :( > > > > rEalm > > > > > > > > Are you working with Red Sound or just seeing if > > their products work? > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > xl7-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Try FREE Yahoo! Mail - the world's greatest free email! > http://mail.yahoo.com/
2002-03-14 by Andre Lewis
Wooohoo I have watched weird clock drifting from the midi clock readouts: With clock set to external, from my MC505 the tempo is 142. I only have the 505 sending clock, no other midi transmitted. When I stop the 505 the readout on the XL-7 is 142 on the Base tempo screen, 141 on the LED display!!!! When I hit start, the ext. tempo reads 143, led reads 142!! Then if I hit stop and then start the led reads 139, EXT reads 140, then slowly comes back to 141 sometimes 142... ???? This is all very exciting! Oddly the 505 is one of the few pieces of gear I have that actually plays back at the same exact tempo as my computer unsync'd (No midi cable) with no drift. Actually all my roland gear plays back at the same tempo unsynced, even the sampler if I make sure it says it's tempo in samples is exactly right. I don't think it specifically matches my soundcards clocks, since I use multiple sound cards, and have switched like five times. I've also never had problems with my other gear locking to it either even notoriously badly clocked gear. Andre
-----Original Message-----
From: donnellbailey [mailto:donpoppie@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:00 PM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Re: MIDI Clock issues
Hello all! I'm using the MP-7 with OS 1.18 and I have no problems
syncing it to none of my devices. Ensure that if you are going to
have the XL/MP-7 as the slave that the cables are connected correctly
and then go to the CONTROLLERS button and scroll all the way to the
end and make sure to set the base tempo to external (EXT). This will
immediately change the tempo to whatever tempo the master controller
is set at and if using the XL/MP-7 as the master ensure that this is
off and the slave device is setup correct. This should help you guys.
Donpoppie2002-03-14 by Andre Lewis
Actually it looks like it's pulling a DJ style affair, since it can't lock to subtempo's it's speeding up then slowing down to "Catch up" to the incoming clock. A push pull affair. That's what my Federation BPM does, makes it unuseable to lock beats with a record because it's not subtle. I'm sure actually that Emu is all over this, so I'll let em go back to work... Andre
-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Lewis [mailto:andrel@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 9:18 AM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [xl7] Re: MIDI Clock issues
Wooohoo I have watched weird clock drifting from the midi clock readouts: With
clock set to external, from my MC505 the tempo is 142. I only have the 505
sending clock, no other midi transmitted. When I stop the 505 the readout on
the XL-7 is 142 on the Base tempo screen, 141 on the LED display!!!! When I hit
start, the ext. tempo reads 143, led reads 142!! Then if I hit stop and then
start the led reads 139, EXT reads 140, then slowly comes back to 141 sometimes
142... ???? This is all very exciting!
Oddly the 505 is one of the few pieces of gear I have that actually plays back
at the same exact tempo as my computer unsync'd (No midi cable) with no drift.
Actually all my roland gear plays back at the same tempo unsynced, even the
sampler if I make sure it says it's tempo in samples is exactly right. I don't
think it specifically matches my soundcards clocks, since I use multiple sound
cards, and have switched like five times. I've also never had problems with my
other gear locking to it either even notoriously badly clocked gear.
Andre
-----Original Message-----
From: donnellbailey [mailto:donpoppie@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 6:00 PM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Re: MIDI Clock issues
Hello all! I'm using the MP-7 with OS 1.18 and I have no problems
syncing it to none of my devices. Ensure that if you are going to
have the XL/MP-7 as the slave that the cables are connected correctly
and then go to the CONTROLLERS button and scroll all the way to the
end and make sure to set the base tempo to external (EXT). This will
immediately change the tempo to whatever tempo the master controller
is set at and if using the XL/MP-7 as the master ensure that this is
off and the slave device is setup correct. This should help you guys.
Donpoppie
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2002-03-14 by Andre Lewis
-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan El-Bizri [mailto:sserendipity@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 10:10 AM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: MIDI Clock issuesHow bad is the actual drift you are >hearingMidi clock sends a pulse, not a specific BPM number, and jitter is normal (though not desirable, of course). If a slaved midi unit thinks that the clock has changed from 140.50 to 140.51 it will change the number displayed to 141. I've seen softsynths do this too.Jonathan
Wooohoo I have watched weird clock drifting from the midi clock readouts: With
clock set to external, from my MC505 the tempo is 142. I only have the 505
sending clock, no other midi transmitted. When I stop the 505 the readout on
the XL-7 is 142 on the Base tempo screen, 141 on the LED display!!!! When I hit
start, the ext. tempo reads 143, led reads 142!! Then if I hit stop and then
start the led reads 139, EXT reads 140, then slowly comes back to 141 sometimes
142... ???? This is all very exciting!
Oddly the 505 is one of the few pieces of gear I have that actually plays back
at the same exact tempo as my computer unsync'd (No midi cable) with no drift.
Actually all my roland gear plays back at the same tempo unsynced, even the
sampler if I make sure it says it's tempo in samples is exactly right. I don't
think it specifically matches my soundcards clocks, since I use multiple sound
cards, and have switched like five times. I've also never had problems with my
other gear locking to it either even notoriously badly clocked gear.
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2002-03-17 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
I've tried numerous cables and always set it to EXT, still get issues with
syncing. It IS a known bug, glad it works for you though!
rEalm
Ensure that if you are going to have the XL/MP-7 as the slave that the
cables are connected correctly
and then go to the CONTROLLERS button and scroll all the way to the
end and make sure to set the base tempo to external (EXT). This will
immediately change the tempo to whatever tempo the master controller
is set at and if using the XL/MP-7 as the master ensure that this is
off and the slave device is setup correct. This should help you guys.
Donpoppie2002-03-17 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
Actually it looks like it's pulling a DJ style affair, since it can't lock to subtempo's it's speeding up then slowing down to "Catch up" to the incoming clock. A push pull affair. >>>That's what I thought as well. It jumps around the BPM on whole numbers, trying to stay linked. Unfortunately, it's pretty audible when the sync if off, even by a few tenths. <<< rEalm