Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

From: "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...>
To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 4:15 AM
Subject: [xl7] On Spam and Spammers


> Quite simply, spam and spammers will no be tolerated.  'Nuf said!
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> --Steve_the_No_More_Mr._Nice_Guy  
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----- Original Message -----

From: just john

To: xl7@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 7:40 AM

Subject: [xl7] Re: On Spam and Spammers

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Zsolt Szabó ...> wrote:
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> Did we finally gain control above the list?
> Do we have an appointed moderator/listowner now?
> Would be good...
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I volunteer!

Last week, I was given mod privileges over at the Handsonic Yahoogroup, and that's going well so far. (I own the Monohedral Catherdral one.)

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> What is everyone talking about ?
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> We have 3 moderators that have kept spam out of the group for almost two years !
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> The Facebook request we received is not really a spam (though they are unsolicited and many times unwanted) but a type of cross group or outside group request for friends/associates by one of our group members, undesired in our yahoo group.  These requests should not be massed emailed like this one was.  I personally emailed the sender after the group received the message and then removed the message from the group.  The member who sent it was a legitimate musician by his id, just sent his Facebook request where it is not allowed.
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> Bob
> El Segundo, CA

----- Original Message -----

From: steve_the_composer

To: xl7@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2009 2:59 PM

Subject: [xl7] Re: On Spam and Spammers - Facebook Issue

Yes, we do have 3 moderators who have been doing a great job of keeping spam and spammers out. For that reason, I was aghast to see the generic "You are invited to join Facebbok . . . " message here.

I guess Bob and I will have to agree to disagree: to me adding a Yahoo! Group (such as this one) to one's list of facebook invitees so that a generic "You have been invited to join Facebook" goes out to everyone on this list (via either individual mail or an e-mail digest) consitutes spam. To me it is not very different from someone who send a message inviting users to visit sex, finance, and other assorted websites that have nothing to do with E-MU gear/Command Stations.

We do have a Links section here with a folder where users can place links to sites that host their own music (not the music of their favorite bands or artists).

I am not sure who deleted the invitation to join facebook here first, but I also deleted it. As well, I followed the link in the message that said don't send any more invitations to join facebook.

If others feel that posting links to facebook sites are what they want here, I suggest that facebook members post links in the Links section.

Consistent with our signup procedures, I think that anyone who wants to post a link to their facebook site could leave a message here describing (1) who they are, (2) what they have at their facebook site that is of interest to other E-Mu/Command Station owners, and (3) saying that they have posted a link to their site in the links section.

The recent generic "You are invited to join my facebook site" message was posted by someone who (so far as I can tell) only posted one message here a year or so ago. That message was a tertiary reply (a reply to a reply) that was less than a dozen words and contributed nothing of substance.

It took a while to finally get rid of spam and spammers here, and I'd hate to see this group become a repository for generic "Join my group" mass e-mailings.

--Steve_the_guy_who_used_to_say_"Just_ignore_them;_or_say_something_funny_about_the_spam"_but_who_now_has_become_an_anti-spam_activist_of_sorts

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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." ...> wrote:
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> What is everyone talking about ?
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> We have 3 moderators that have kept spam out of the group for almost two years !
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> The Facebook request we received is not really a spam (though they are unsolicited and many times unwanted) but a type of cross group or outside group request for friends/associates by one of our group members, undesired in our yahoo group. These requests should not be massed emailed like this one was. I personally emailed the sender after the group received the message and then removed the message from the group. The member who sent it was a legitimate musician by his id, just sent his Facebook request where it is not allowed.
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> Bob
> El Segundo, CA