Anybody use a Rolls MIDI Buddy with the XL-7?
2009-03-12 by moe_shinola
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2009-03-12 by moe_shinola
I'm buying an XL-7 and I'm wondering how useful the Rolls would be. Seems like it would be the ideal controller for a guitarist onstage using the XL-7 for backing tracks.
2009-03-14 by Moe Shinola
From: moe_shinola
Subject: [xl7] Anybody use a Rolls MIDI Buddy with the XL-7?
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 2:06 PMI'm buying an XL-7 and I'm wondering how useful the Rolls would be. Seems like it would be the ideal controller for a guitarist onstage using the XL-7 for backing tracks.
2009-03-16 by Aaron Eppolito
From: moe_shinola
Subject: [xl7] Anybody use a Rolls MIDI Buddy with the XL-7?
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 2:06 PMI'm buying an XL-7 and I'm wondering how useful the Rolls would be. Seems like it would be the ideal controller for a guitarist onstage using the XL-7 for backing tracks.
2009-03-17 by moe_shinola
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote: >So would you plug in 2 individual footswitches, for simplicity, or maybe get a MIDI pedalboard? There's a Digitech Control One MIDI Foot Controller on Craigslist here in KCMO. Moe
> I've never heard of it, but from what I see, all it does is send program change and SPP. I'm not sure you'll get much use out of that. If you're a guitarist, chances are you're not trying to change synth patches on the XL-7 which is pretty much all you'll be able to do. Do note that the XL-7 has a couple footswitch inputs that are assignable to things like next sequence, previous sequence, punch in/out, etc... > > -Aaron > > > > ________________________________ > From: Moe Shinola <moe_shinola@...> > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 6:22:53 AM > Subject: Re: [xl7] Anybody use a Rolls MIDI Buddy with the XL-7? > > > Anybody? > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, moe_shinola <moe_shinola@...> wrote: > > From: moe_shinola <moe_shinola@...> > Subject: [xl7] Anybody use a Rolls MIDI Buddy with the XL-7? > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 2:06 PM > > > I'm buying an XL-7 and I'm wondering how useful the Rolls would be. Seems like it would be the ideal controller for a guitarist onstage using the XL-7 for backing tracks. >
2009-03-17 by Aaron Eppolito
Hmm, that one looks slightly better (though road worn!) but I'm still not sure how much use you'll get from it. The program change will still not do too much and its other function (besides the useful exp pedal) is sending a 0 or 127 cc message. Perhaps we should try to figure out what you'd like to be able to do with your feet? -Aaron
----- Original Message ---- From: moe_shinola <moe_shinola@...> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 10:27:57 PM Subject: [xl7] Re: Anybody use a Rolls MIDI Buddy with the XL-7? --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote: >So would you plug in 2 individual footswitches, for simplicity, or maybe get a MIDI pedalboard? There's a Digitech Control One MIDI Foot Controller on Craigslist here in KCMO. Moe > I've never heard of it, but from what I see, all it does is send program change and SPP. I'm not sure you'll get much use out of that. If you're a guitarist, chances are you're not trying to change synth patches on the XL-7 which is pretty much all you'll be able to do. Do note that the XL-7 has a couple footswitch inputs that are assignable to things like next sequence, previous sequence, punch in/out, etc... > > -Aaron > > > > ________________________________ > From: Moe Shinola <moe_shinola@...> > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, March 14, 2009 6:22:53 AM > Subject: Re: [xl7] Anybody use a Rolls MIDI Buddy with the XL-7? > > > Anybody? > > --- On Thu, 3/12/09, moe_shinola <moe_shinola@...> wrote: > > From: moe_shinola <moe_shinola@...> > Subject: [xl7] Anybody use a Rolls MIDI Buddy with the XL-7? > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > Date: Thursday, March 12, 2009, 2:06 PM > > > I'm buying an XL-7 and I'm wondering how useful the Rolls would be. Seems like it would be the ideal controller for a guitarist onstage using the XL-7 for backing tracks. > ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links
2009-03-17 by steve_the_composer
The question of deciding what you want to do with your feet is a good place to start. I have used an ART X-15 foot controller with a midi sax into my P2500. In the P2500 group over the years there were guitarists who used foot pedals, though I am not sure which ones and I don't recall how they used them. (I would just look up the manual on line and give ideas on how to get the P2500 to interface with it.) To help you consider what you MIGHT want to do with your feet, let me explain the features of the ART X-15. (I am not necessarily recommending it; its just that I know what it does and I thought maybe it might prompt some possible uses of ones feet.) The X-15 has two foot pedals and a bunch of buttons (1. While the buttons can be used to switch presets, I never used it that way. The pedals and the buttons are programmable controllers. The foot pedals range output values from 0 to 127 (just like the 16 programmable knobs on you CS). The buttons are simply on/off representing the values 0 and 127 (if I remember correctly). In set up mode, you tell what CC you want each pedal and each button to be. I used the X-15 in conjunction with presets I designed. For example, in one preset I might use one pedal to increase the amplitude of different layers that were slightly detuned. Or, I might use one pedal to control cutoff frequency and one to control resonance. Using the E-Mu's patchcords, one button might switch 1 layer and octave up and another layer an octave down. Other buttons would do other things, such as turn on/off FX. On my wish list was a foot controller that could send out strings of CC values and sysex. I am not sure if there are any. Also, I often thought it would be nice if my controller could be programmed so buttons would send out a value of my choosing, not just 0 or 127. But since the E-mu synth engise of so wonderfully programmable, I found 0/127 switch worked for me. Simple foot switches can be used as Aron pointed out for a variety of functions (scroll through the choices in the Controllers menu system--underFootswitch Jack Function).
2009-03-17 by steve_the_composer
Oops; I hit send instead of edit. So forgive the typos. I hope what I did manage to say gives you ideas for how someone would use their feet as midi devices. --Steve
2009-03-18 by Moe Shinola
From: steve_the_composer
Subject: [xl7] Re: Anybody use a Rolls MIDI Buddy with the XL-7?
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tuesday, March 17, 2009, 5:04 PMOops; I hit send instead of edit. So forgive the typos. I hope what I did manage to say gives you ideas for how someone would use their feet as midi devices.
--Steve
2009-03-18 by Bryant
Hey all, You are looking for the behringer FCB1010. You csn by the uno chip for it and your home free. Program it to do whatever you want. Excellent user group here on yahoo. Works great with the MP-7 and everything else in my rig. group link is here http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/fcb1010_uno/ Bryant --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:
> > The question of deciding what you want to do with your feet is a good place to start. I have used an ART X-15 foot controller with a midi sax into my P2500. In the P2500 group over the years there were guitarists who used foot pedals, though I am not sure which ones and I don't recall how they used them. (I would just look up the manual on line and give ideas on how to get the P2500 to interface with it.) > > To help you consider what you MIGHT want to do with your feet, let me explain the features of the ART X-15. (I am not necessarily recommending it; its just that I know what it does and I thought maybe it might prompt some possible uses of ones feet.) > > The X-15 has two foot pedals and a bunch of buttons (1. While the buttons can be used to switch presets, I never used it that way. The pedals and the buttons are programmable controllers. The foot pedals range output values from 0 to 127 (just like the 16 programmable knobs on you CS). The buttons are simply on/off representing the values 0 and 127 (if I remember correctly). In set up mode, you tell what CC you want each pedal and each button to be. > > I used the X-15 in conjunction with presets I designed. For example, in one preset I might use one pedal to increase the amplitude of different layers that were slightly detuned. Or, I might use one pedal to control cutoff frequency and one to control resonance. Using the E-Mu's patchcords, one button might switch 1 layer and octave up and another layer an octave down. Other buttons would do other things, such as turn on/off FX. > > On my wish list was a foot controller that could send out strings of CC values and sysex. I am not sure if there are any. Also, I often thought it would be nice if my controller could be programmed so buttons would send out a value of my choosing, not just 0 or 127. But since the E-mu synth engise of so wonderfully programmable, I found 0/127 switch worked for me. > > Simple foot switches can be used as Aron pointed out for a variety of functions (scroll through the choices in the Controllers menu system--underFootswitch Jack Function). >
2009-03-19 by steve_the_composer
Just found a User Guide for the MP128 MidiBuddy. If that's what you have, I understand Aaron's comment on the limitation (basically its useful for changes patches and sending out a sequencer command or two). If I had it, here's how I would expand its usefulness with regard to any P2K based synth (beyond just switching patches). I believe it was Aaron who made the suggestion here many years ago. The basic concept is to dedicate a single channel as an FX control channel. Under Global/Master you can set the FX Multimode Control to a specific channel, say for example "preset on channel 16A." You then create FX presets, possibly with a prefix like !FX:. The ROM Instrument for all layers should be 0000:None. The preset will contain settings for FXA and FXB. The net result is that you can use your foot switcher (in this case on channel 16A) to select FX on your E-Mu. The effects will be global with the possibility of using the 4 send buses (% amount that goes to FXA/FXB). Remember, although the FX are global, you can use FXA and FXB independently by routing some sounds only through one or the other. More food for thought. --Steve --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Moe Shinola <moe_shinola@...> wrote:
> > Kewl thanks. I'm not sure what I'll want to do. I figure the needs will arise while I'm working. > >
2009-03-19 by Moe Shinola
From: Bryant
Subject: [xl7] Re: Anybody use a Rolls MIDI Buddy with the XL-7?
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 6:29 PMHey all,
You are looking for the behringer FCB1010. You csn by the uno chip for it and your home free. Program it to do whatever you want. Excellent user group here on yahoo. Works great with the MP-7 and everything else in my rig.
group link is here
http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ fcb1010_uno/
Bryant
--- In xl7@yahoogroups. com, "steve_the_composer " wrote:
>
> The question of deciding what you want to do with your feet is a good place to start. I have used an ART X-15 foot controller with a midi sax into my P2500. In the P2500 group over the years there were guitarists who used foot pedals, though I am not sure which ones and I don't recall how they used them. (I would just look up the manual on line and give ideas on how to get the P2500 to interface with it.)
>
> To help you consider what you MIGHT want to do with your feet, let me explain the features of the ART X-15. (I am not necessarily recommending it; its just that I know what it does and I thought maybe it might prompt some possible uses of ones feet.)
>
> The X-15 has two foot pedals and a bunch of buttons (1. While the buttons can be used to switch presets, I never used it that way. The pedals and the buttons are programmable controllers. The foot pedals range output values from 0 to 127 (just like the 16 programmable knobs on you CS). The buttons are simply on/off representing the values 0 and 127 (if I remember correctly). In set up mode, you tell what CC you want each pedal and each button to be.
>
> I used the X-15 in conjunction with presets I designed. For example, in one preset I might use one pedal to increase the amplitude of different layers that were slightly detuned. Or, I might use one pedal to control cutoff frequency and one to control resonance. Using the E-Mu's patchcords, one button might switch 1 layer and octave up and another layer an octave down. Other buttons would do other things, such as turn on/off FX.
>
> On my wish list was a foot controller that could send out strings of CC values and sysex. I am not sure if there are any. Also, I often thought it would be nice if my controller could be programmed so buttons would send out a value of my choosing, not just 0 or 127. But since the E-mu synth engise of so wonderfully programmable, I found 0/127 switch worked for me.
>
> Simple foot switches can be used as Aron pointed out for a variety of functions (scroll through the choices in the Controllers menu system--underFootsw itch Jack Function).
>
2009-03-19 by Moe Shinola
From: Bryant
Subject: [xl7] Re: Anybody use a Rolls MIDI Buddy with the XL-7?
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 6:29 PMHey all,
You are looking for the behringer FCB1010. You csn by the uno chip for it and your home free. Program it to do whatever you want. Excellent user group here on yahoo. Works great with the MP-7 and everything else in my rig.
group link is here
http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ fcb1010_uno/
Bryant
--- In xl7@yahoogroups. com, "steve_the_composer " wrote:
>
> The question of deciding what you want to do with your feet is a good place to start. I have used an ART X-15 foot controller with a midi sax into my P2500. In the P2500 group over the years there were guitarists who used foot pedals, though I am not sure which ones and I don't recall how they used them. (I would just look up the manual on line and give ideas on how to get the P2500 to interface with it.)
>
> To help you consider what you MIGHT want to do with your feet, let me explain the features of the ART X-15. (I am not necessarily recommending it; its just that I know what it does and I thought maybe it might prompt some possible uses of ones feet.)
>
> The X-15 has two foot pedals and a bunch of buttons (1. While the buttons can be used to switch presets, I never used it that way. The pedals and the buttons are programmable controllers. The foot pedals range output values from 0 to 127 (just like the 16 programmable knobs on you CS). The buttons are simply on/off representing the values 0 and 127 (if I remember correctly). In set up mode, you tell what CC you want each pedal and each button to be.
>
> I used the X-15 in conjunction with presets I designed. For example, in one preset I might use one pedal to increase the amplitude of different layers that were slightly detuned. Or, I might use one pedal to control cutoff frequency and one to control resonance. Using the E-Mu's patchcords, one button might switch 1 layer and octave up and another layer an octave down. Other buttons would do other things, such as turn on/off FX.
>
> On my wish list was a foot controller that could send out strings of CC values and sysex. I am not sure if there are any. Also, I often thought it would be nice if my controller could be programmed so buttons would send out a value of my choosing, not just 0 or 127. But since the E-mu synth engise of so wonderfully programmable, I found 0/127 switch worked for me.
>
> Simple foot switches can be used as Aron pointed out for a variety of functions (scroll through the choices in the Controllers menu system--underFootsw itch Jack Function).
>
2009-03-21 by Bryant
It is bsically an expanded brain for the FCB1010. It allows you to assign "stomp box" settings to a row of pedals and you can program it better directly from your computer. The upgrade is very strait forward and inexpensive. Join the group and post some questions. Its free just like this group. It is very active as this combination has been around for sometime now. I have been using mine for 5 yrs now. Still the best pedal on the market. It is also the only one that has onging upgrades. The rest usually are only supported with the firmware that comes with it or maybe 1 update. I also use mine with an 8x8 midi router. I can control all my midi gear with the one pedal. Once you get things programed you never have to take your hands off your guitar. --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Moe Shinola <moe_shinola@...> wrote:
> > Thanks for the heads-up. What's an uno chip? > > > Moe > > --- On Wed, 3/18/09, Bryant <bryant@...> wrote: > From: Bryant <bryant@...> > Subject: [xl7] Re: Anybody use a Rolls MIDI Buddy with the XL-7? > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > Date: Wednesday, March 18, 2009, 6:29 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > You are looking for the behringer FCB1010. You csn by the uno chip for it and your home free. Program it to do whatever you want. Excellent user group here on yahoo. Works great with the MP-7 and everything else in my rig. > > > > group link is here > > > > http://launch. groups.yahoo. com/group/ fcb1010_uno/ > > > > Bryant > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups. com, "steve_the_composer " <smw-mail@ .> wrote: > > > > > > The question of deciding what you want to do with your feet is a good place to start. I have used an ART X-15 foot controller with a midi sax into my P2500. In the P2500 group over the years there were guitarists who used foot pedals, though I am not sure which ones and I don't recall how they used them. (I would just look up the manual on line and give ideas on how to get the P2500 to interface with it.) > > > > > > To help you consider what you MIGHT want to do with your feet, let me explain the features of the ART X-15. (I am not necessarily recommending it; its just that I know what it does and I thought maybe it might prompt some possible uses of ones feet.) > > > > > > The X-15 has two foot pedals and a bunch of buttons (1. While the buttons can be used to switch presets, I never used it that way. The pedals and the buttons are programmable controllers. The foot pedals range output values from 0 to 127 (just like the 16 programmable knobs on you CS). The buttons are simply on/off representing the values 0 and 127 (if I remember correctly). In set up mode, you tell what CC you want each pedal and each button to be. > > > > > > I used the X-15 in conjunction with presets I designed. For example, in one preset I might use one pedal to increase the amplitude of different layers that were slightly detuned. Or, I might use one pedal to control cutoff frequency and one to control resonance. Using the E-Mu's patchcords, one button might switch 1 layer and octave up and another layer an octave down. Other buttons would do other things, such as turn on/off FX. > > > > > > On my wish list was a foot controller that could send out strings of CC values and sysex. I am not sure if there are any. Also, I often thought it would be nice if my controller could be programmed so buttons would send out a value of my choosing, not just 0 or 127. But since the E-mu synth engise of so wonderfully programmable, I found 0/127 switch worked for me. > > > > > > Simple foot switches can be used as Aron pointed out for a variety of functions (scroll through the choices in the Controllers menu system--underFootsw itch Jack Function). > > > >