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I have just started exploring the potential for using the E-Mu 
sequencer with the Proteus-X.
(1) Has anyone done anything with this, and if so, do you want to 
share tips/thoughts/working modalities/etc.?
(2) Is anyone here interested in discussing this here?

If anyone else is interested:
(1) www.emu.com is still offering Proteus XV - a free, lite version 
that doesn't need an e-mu/creative card or midi interface to work. 
All you need to do is sign up for an e-mail newsletter.
(2) The basic concept is to use the sequencer to drive an external 
sound source; in this case, the external sound source is software.
(3) The artist formerly known as rEalm has a suggested list of 
settings to optimize Windows as a software-based music machine. (I 
found these helped with Proteus-X, VSTs, DXis, and SynthEdit.)
(4) You can import (with the right equipment) EIII and EIV (EOS) banks

If no one else is interested, that's OK with me. I just thought I'd 
mention it.

--Steve

I think all you have to do is to

1. set up in every pattern's (16) channels to send the sequencer data 
external (or both), in the pattern menu,

2. connect the command station to the computer,

3. and after that you can use the proteus software's 16 channels.

As far as I know there's no global setting for this method, so
you have to set them up in every pattern, what you like to use with
the software proteus (too).

It's worth to create an empty pattern with these settings, as a template,
and make duplicates of it for the following patterns.


Andrew

On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, steve_the_composer wrote:

> I have just started exploring the potential for using the E-Mu
> sequencer with the Proteus-X.
> (1) Has anyone done anything with this, and if so, do you want to
> share tips/thoughts/working modalities/etc.?
> (2) Is anyone here interested in discussing this here?
>
> If anyone else is interested:
> (1) www.emu.com is still offering Proteus XV - a free, lite version
> that doesn't need an e-mu/creative card or midi interface to work.
> All you need to do is sign up for an e-mail newsletter.
> (2) The basic concept is to use the sequencer to drive an external
> sound source; in this case, the external sound source is software.
> (3) The artist formerly known as rEalm has a suggested list of
> settings to optimize Windows as a software-based music machine. (I
> found these helped with Proteus-X, VSTs, DXis, and SynthEdit.)
> (4) You can import (with the right equipment) EIII and EIV (EOS) banks
>
> If no one else is interested, that's OK with me. I just thought I'd
> mention it.
>
> --Steve
>
>

Is a MIDI interface a must to use the proteus software? or can we do this using only the USB cable?

I still wondering why the E loader cannot save presets.� Saving�your compositions�is a HEADACHE if you cannot save the presets you've created.... 




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From: Sz�nyi Andr�s <andras@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:08:07 AM
Subject: Re: [xl7] E-Mu Sequencer + Proteus X




I think all you have to do is to

1. set up in every pattern's (16) channels to send the sequencer data 
external (or both), in the pattern menu,

2. connect the command station to the computer,

3. and after that you can use the proteus software's 16 channels.

As far as I know there's no global setting for this method, so
you have to set them up in every pattern, what you like to use with
the software proteus (too).

It's worth to create an empty pattern with these settings, as a template,
and make duplicates of it for the following patterns.

Andrew

On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, steve_the_composer wrote:

> I have just started exploring the potential for using the E-Mu
> sequencer with the Proteus-X.
> (1) Has anyone done anything with this, and if so, do you want to
> share tips/thoughts/ working modalities/etc. ?
> (2) Is anyone here interested in discussing this here?
>
> If anyone else is interested:
> (1) www.emu.com is still offering Proteus XV - a free, lite version
> that doesn't need an e-mu/creative card or midi interface to work.
> All you need to do is sign up for an e-mail newsletter.
> (2) The basic concept is to use the sequencer to drive an external
> sound source; in this case, the external sound source is software.
> (3) The artist formerly known as rEalm has a suggested list of
> settings to optimize Windows as a software-based music machine. (I
> found these helped with Proteus-X, VSTs, DXis, and SynthEdit.)
> (4) You can import (with the right equipment) EIII and EIV (EOS) banks
>
> If no one else is interested, that's OK with me. I just thought I'd
> mention it.
>
> --Steve
>
>




      

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I'm affraid the Command Stations can only communicate with
E-loader software via USB, all other applications can be
reached only via MIDI.


Andrew


On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Mauricio Balma wrote:

> Is a MIDI interface a must to use the proteus software? or can we do this using only the USB cable?
>
> I still wondering why the E loader cannot save presets.� Saving�your compositions�is a HEADACHE if you cannot save the presets you've created....
>
>
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> From: Sz�nyi Andr�s <andras@...>
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 9:08:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [xl7] E-Mu Sequencer + Proteus X
>
>
>
>
> I think all you have to do is to
>
> 1. set up in every pattern's (16) channels to send the sequencer data
> external (or both), in the pattern menu,
>
> 2. connect the command station to the computer,
>
> 3. and after that you can use the proteus software's 16 channels.
>
> As far as I know there's no global setting for this method, so
> you have to set them up in every pattern, what you like to use with
> the software proteus (too).
>
> It's worth to create an empty pattern with these settings, as a template,
> and make duplicates of it for the following patterns.
>
> Andrew
>
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, steve_the_composer wrote:
>
>> I have just started exploring the potential for using the E-Mu
>> sequencer with the Proteus-X.
>> (1) Has anyone done anything with this, and if so, do you want to
>> share tips/thoughts/ working modalities/etc. ?
>> (2) Is anyone here interested in discussing this here?
>>
>> If anyone else is interested:
>> (1) www.emu.com is still offering Proteus XV - a free, lite version
>> that doesn't need an e-mu/creative card or midi interface to work.
>> All you need to do is sign up for an e-mail newsletter.
>> (2) The basic concept is to use the sequencer to drive an external
>> sound source; in this case, the external sound source is software.
>> (3) The artist formerly known as rEalm has a suggested list of
>> settings to optimize Windows as a software-based music machine. (I
>> found these helped with Proteus-X, VSTs, DXis, and SynthEdit.)
>> (4) You can import (with the right equipment) EIII and EIV (EOS) banks
>>
>> If no one else is interested, that's OK with me. I just thought I'd
>> mention it.
>>
>> --Steve
>>
>>
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I finally decided to step into the 21st century and add a laptop to my rig... I purchased an E-mu USB 0404 to interface the laptop with my hardware, and it came with a nice bundle of software that included a CD entitled 'Proteus VX Software/Manual Installation CD-Rom.'  The first time I tried to install it, nothing happened... the second time, as far as I can tell, it installed properly, but nothing happens when I try to launch it.  I looked around the web to see if there were any issues with Vista, and the reaction was about 50/50 as to if it would work or not... anybody here have any ideas on getting it to work with Vista?  Looks like there should be a lot of good stuff on that disc, and I'd love to use it.

Thanks!
Andrew

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I think Windows XP is still the best platform for making audio
in PC environment. All audio softwares work well with it.
If you have all drivers available in XP for your laptop, I recommend you
to "downgrade" your operation system.

Vista is a dead end, and a shame of Microsoft... maybe the Windows 7 (?)
will be the next useful member of the Windows series.


Andrew

On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Andrew wrote:

>
> I finally decided to step into the 21st century and add a laptop to my rig... I purchased an E-mu USB 0404 to interface the laptop with my hardware, and it came with a nice bundle of software that included a CD entitled 'Proteus VX Software/Manual Installation CD-Rom.'  The first time I tried to install it, nothing happened... the second time, as far as I can tell, it installed properly, but nothing happens when I try to launch it.  I looked around the web to see if there were any issues with Vista, and the reaction was about 50/50 as to if it would work or not... anybody here have any ideas on getting it to work with Vista?  Looks like there should be a lot of good stuff on that disc, and I'd love to use it.
>
> Thanks!
> Andrew
>
> _________________________________________________________________
> Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live.
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>

It looks like there may be some interest, so I will share what I have 
done. So far I have sent audition riffs (using trigger/mutes) and arps 
to the Proteus X. I have also sent a sample pattern using a pattern 
template I had that routes all tracks externally [with dummy data on 
each track so they don't reset to internal].  

Since Proteus X has 64 channels (v. 16 on Proteus XV), I created two 
pattern templates (External->ProtX->A and External->ProtX->B). At this 
point I am not sure that my XP PC can handle as much data as the E-MU 
hardware. Time will tell, if I continue experimenting.

As for problems installing the software and getting it set up, I also 
had problems. I think I ended up installing and uninstalling the 
software a couple of times. At one point I e-mailed or phone Creative 
and they gave me some suggestions.

Also, I tried putting in a couple of older sound cards into my XP, but 
that seemed to strain the Proteus X. Sonar 6 handled the additional 
cards ok, but it seems to have a more well designed audio card 
profiling feature. I could tell Sonar which audio channels to use. 
There was no way to tell the Proteus X software which audio channel to 
use, so I think the drivers got confused. (All WDM, no ASIO.)

To clarify, my version of Proteus X [actually 2x] says that the 
Creative/E-Mu interface [Xmidi2x2] has to be connected in order for the 
software to work. I believe this is true of other non-free versions. Th 
XV version on the other hand, does not require the interface.

--Steve

This may already have been suggested, but Vista has a "Compatibility
Mode", whereby you can trick the software into thinking it's running
in a different environment (such as Windows XP). 

You just need to find the application's installation directory
(usually /Program Files/<software company name>/<application>) then
find the .EXE file, right-click on the .EXE and find the Compatibility
tab. Try setting it to XP SP2.

Full instructions here: 

http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-windows-vista-compatibility-mode/

Hope this helps


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Andrew <Alan_mansfield@...> wrote:
>
> 
> I finally decided to step into the 21st century and add a laptop to
my rig... I purchased an E-mu USB 0404 to interface the laptop with my
hardware, and it came with a nice bundle of software that included a
CD entitled 'Proteus VX Software/Manual Installation CD-Rom.'  The
first time I tried to install it, nothing happened... the second time,
as far as I can tell, it installed properly, but nothing happens when
I try to launch it.  I looked around the web to see if there were any
issues with Vista, and the reaction was about 50/50 as to if it would
work or not... anybody here have any ideas on getting it to work with
Vista?  Looks like there should be a lot of good stuff on that disc,
and I'd love to use it.
> 
> Thanks!
> Andrew
> 
> _________________________________________________________________
> Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live.
>
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> 
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>

What is it with you people? Do you hear ME, there was a question that someone sent about a month ago and I wanted to know the answer too, nobody responded, are you just jerks or what.... I am the biggest fan of EMU gear and nobody cares. TOMTEL (the TEL of The DOGG) says whatever....?????

--- On Wed, 2/18/09, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:

From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>
Subject: [xl7] Re: E-Mu Sequencer + Proteus X
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 6:22 PM






It looks like there may be some interest, so I will share what I have 
done. So far I have sent audition riffs (using trigger/mutes) and arps 
to the Proteus X. I have also sent a sample pattern using a pattern 
template I had that routes all tracks externally [with dummy data on 
each track so they don't reset to internal]. 

Since Proteus X has 64 channels (v. 16 on Proteus XV), I created two 
pattern templates (External->ProtX- >A and External->ProtX- >B). At this 
point I am not sure that my XP PC can handle as much data as the E-MU 
hardware. Time will tell, if I continue experimenting.

As for problems installing the software and getting it set up, I also 
had problems. I think I ended up installing and uninstalling the 
software a couple of times. At one point I e-mailed or phone Creative 
and they gave me some suggestions.

Also, I tried putting in a couple of older sound cards into my XP, but 
that seemed to strain the Proteus X. Sonar 6 handled the additional 
cards ok, but it seems to have a more well designed audio card 
profiling feature. I could tell Sonar which audio channels to use. 
There was no way to tell the Proteus X software which audio channel to 
use, so I think the drivers got confused. (All WDM, no ASIO.)

To clarify, my version of Proteus X [actually 2x] says that the 
Creative/E-Mu interface [Xmidi2x2] has to be connected in order for the 
software to work. I believe this is true of other non-free versions. Th 
XV version on the other hand, does not require the interface.

--Steve 
















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ah what...grr..ctrl alt delete




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From: tom johnson <doggtel@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, 20 February, 2009 3:06:14 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: E-Mu Sequencer + Proteus X


What is it with you people? Do you hear ME, there was a question that someone sent about a month ago and I wanted to know the answer too, nobody responded, are you just jerks or what.... I am the biggest fan of EMU gear and nobody cares. TOMTEL (the TEL of The DOGG) says whatever.... ?????

--- On Wed, 2/18/09, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@prodigy. net> wrote:

From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@prodigy. net>
Subject: [xl7] Re: E-Mu Sequencer + Proteus X
To: xl7@yahoogroups. com
Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 6:22 PM

It looks like there may be some interest, so I will share what I have 
done. So far I have sent audition riffs (using trigger/mutes) and arps 
to the Proteus X. I have also sent a sample pattern using a pattern 
template I had that routes all tracks externally [with dummy data on 
each track so they don't reset to internal]. 

Since Proteus X has 64 channels (v. 16 on Proteus XV), I created two 
pattern templates (External->ProtX- >A and External->ProtX- >B). At this 
point I am not sure that my XP PC can handle as much data as the E-MU 
hardware. Time will tell, if I continue experimenting.

As for problems installing the software and getting it set up, I also 
had problems. I think I ended up installing and uninstalling the 
software a couple of times. At one point I e-mailed or phone Creative 
and they gave me some suggestions.

Also, I tried putting in a couple of older sound cards into my XP, but 
that seemed to strain the Proteus X. Sonar 6 handled the additional 
cards ok, but it seems to have a more well designed audio card 
profiling feature. I could tell Sonar which audio channels to use. 
There was no way to tell the Proteus X software which audio channel to 
use, so I think the drivers got confused. (All WDM, no ASIO.)

To clarify, my version of Proteus X [actually 2x] says that the 
Creative/E-Mu interface [Xmidi2x2] has to be connected in order for the 
software to work. I believe this is true of other non-free versions. Th 
XV version on the other hand, does not require the interface.

--Steve 

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Delete yourself "B" ictch

If this is the response from you people after 4 years of reading all the groups mail, then delete me..... Please, I have no more time for this. Doggtel@...

--- On Thu, 2/19/09, Fred Smith <rs6000jade@...> wrote:

> From: Fred Smith <rs6000jade@...>
> Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: E-Mu Sequencer + Proteus X
> To: xl7@...m
> Date: Thursday, February 19, 2009, 10:18 PM
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> To: xl7@yahoogroups.
> com
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> Sent: Friday, 20 February, 2009 3:06:14 PM
> 
> Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: E-Mu Sequencer + Proteus X
> 
> 
> 
> What is it with you people? Do you hear ME, there was a
> question that someone sent about a month ago and I wanted to
> know the answer too, nobody responded, are you just jerks or
> what.... I am the biggest fan of EMU gear and nobody cares.
> TOMTEL (the TEL of The DOGG) says whatever.... ?????
> 
> 
> 
> --- On Wed, 2/18/09, steve_the_composer
> <smw-mail@prodigy. net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@prodigy. net>
> 
> Subject: [xl7] Re: E-Mu Sequencer + Proteus X
> 
> To: xl7@yahoogroups. com
> 
> Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 6:22 PM
> 
> 
> 
> It looks like there may be some interest, so I will share
> what I have 
> 
> done. So far I have sent audition riffs (using
> trigger/mutes) and arps 
> 
> to the Proteus X. I have also sent a sample pattern using a
> pattern 
> 
> template I had that routes all tracks externally [with
> dummy data on 
> 
> each track so they don't reset to internal]. 
> 
> 
> 
> Since Proteus X has 64 channels (v. 16 on Proteus XV), I
> created two 
> 
> pattern templates (External->ProtX- >A and
> External->ProtX- >B). At this 
> 
> point I am not sure that my XP PC can handle as much data
> as the E-MU 
> 
> hardware. Time will tell, if I continue experimenting.
> 
> 
> 
> As for problems installing the software and getting it set
> up, I also 
> 
> had problems. I think I ended up installing and
> uninstalling the 
> 
> software a couple of times. At one point I e-mailed or
> phone Creative 
> 
> and they gave me some suggestions.
> 
> 
> 
> Also, I tried putting in a couple of older sound cards into
> my XP, but 
> 
> that seemed to strain the Proteus X. Sonar 6 handled the
> additional 
> 
> cards ok, but it seems to have a more well designed audio
> card 
> 
> profiling feature. I could tell Sonar which audio channels
> to use. 
> 
> There was no way to tell the Proteus X software which audio
> channel to 
> 
> use, so I think the drivers got confused. (All WDM, no
> ASIO.)
> 
> 
> 
> To clarify, my version of Proteus X [actually 2x] says that
> the 
> 
> Creative/E-Mu interface [Xmidi2x2] has to be connected in
> order for the 
> 
> software to work. I believe this is true of other non-free
> versions. Th 
> 
> XV version on the other hand, does not require the
> interface.
> 
> 
> 
> --Steve 
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Mom used to say, "You catch more flies with honey than with vinegar." 
It was only after she passed away that I realized, "Hey! Who wants 
flies in the first place."

Anyhow, I apologize if I raised an issue on a new topic while there 
was an unanswered or unresolved question or quandry from a month ago. 
My guess is that I saw it and had no idea on how to answer it and/or 
assumed that others would chime in. I will go back and revisit the 
thread to see if I can add anything useful.

Sorry you are/were frustrated, Tom. And, yes, I can be a bit of a 
jerk--it may be the Asperger in me.

BTW in case anyone is interested, I am still exploring the use of the 
E-Mu sequencer to drive Proteus X2. Since the software can handle 64 
channels using 4 midi ins, I am experimenting with ports A & B 
driving channels 1 - 16 & 17 - 32 respectively, and a usb keyboard 
driving channels 33 - 48. At some point I may try driving channels 
49 - 64 from a midi sax. For those (like me) who like hardware knobs 
over software knobs, the 16 controller knobs work great. 

So, if you have a Command Station that cannot read ROMS, but can 
output sequencer data and controller data, you might want to consider 
this option. Since Proteus VX is free, it couldn't hurt to give it a 
try (though you only get 16 channels, among other limitations of the 
lite version).

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, tom johnson <doggtel@...> wrote:
>
> What is it with you people? Do you hear ME, there was a question 
that someone sent about a month ago and I wanted to know the answer 
too, nobody responded, are you just jerks or what.... I am the 
biggest fan of EMU gear and nobody cares. TOMTEL (the TEL of The 
DOGG) says whatever....?????

> 
> --- On Wed, 2/18/09, steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:
> 
> From: steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...>
> Subject: [xl7] Re: E-Mu Sequencer + Proteus X
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, February 18, 2009, 6:22 PM

Thanks for the tip... unfortunately though, it still wont launch... grrrr.... I even tried compatibility mode for W2000, and NT, with and without windows access control activated...with and without running it as administrator...etc.  I'm wondering if it just doesn't like running on an intel chip... ever heard of any compatibilty issues?  I think I'm probably just SOL unless E-mu releases an updated driver or patch.

Andrew

> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> From: thelizardbloke@...
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:33:02 +0000
> Subject: [xl7] Re: Someone else who can't figure out Proteus VX
> 
> This may already have been suggested, but Vista has a "Compatibility
> Mode", whereby you can trick the software into thinking it's running
> in a different environment (such as Windows XP). 
> 
> You just need to find the application's installation directory
> (usually /Program Files/<software company name>/<application>) then
> find the .EXE file, right-click on the .EXE and find the Compatibility
> tab. Try setting it to XP SP2.
> 
> Full instructions here: 
> 
> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-windows-vista-compatibility-mode/
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Andrew <Alan_mansfield@...> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > I finally decided to step into the 21st century and add a laptop to
> my rig... I purchased an E-mu USB 0404 to interface the laptop with my
> hardware, and it came with a nice bundle of software that included a
> CD entitled 'Proteus VX Software/Manual Installation CD-Rom.'  The
> first time I tried to install it, nothing happened... the second time,
> as far as I can tell, it installed properly, but nothing happens when
> I try to launch it.  I looked around the web to see if there were any
> issues with Vista, and the reaction was about 50/50 as to if it would
> work or not... anybody here have any ideas on getting it to work with
> Vista?  Looks like there should be a lot of good stuff on that disc,
> and I'd love to use it.
> > 
> > Thanks!
> > Andrew
> > 
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live.
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I sent you a quick answer to your question, but it was banned (?)
... maybe I was using too strong words about Windows :)


It was the lighter part of that email,
hope that will reach the list:

"I think Windows XP is still the best platform for making audio
in PC environment. All audio softwares work well with it.
If you have all drivers available in XP for your laptop,
I recommend you to "downgrade" your operation system."


Andr

On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Andrew wrote:

>
> Thanks for the tip... unfortunately though, it still wont launch... grrrr.... I even tried compatibility mode for W2000, and NT, with and without windows access control activated...with and without running it as administrator...etc.  I'm wondering if it just doesn't like running on an intel chip... ever heard of any compatibilty issues?  I think I'm probably just SOL unless E-mu releases an updated driver or patch.
>
> Andrew
>
>> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>> From: thelizardbloke@...
>> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:33:02 +0000
>> Subject: [xl7] Re: Someone else who can't figure out Proteus VX
>>
>> This may already have been suggested, but Vista has a "Compatibility
>> Mode", whereby you can trick the software into thinking it's running
>> in a different environment (such as Windows XP).
>>
>> You just need to find the application's installation directory
>> (usually /Program Files/<software company name>/<application>) then
>> find the .EXE file, right-click on the .EXE and find the Compatibility
>> tab. Try setting it to XP SP2.
>>
>> Full instructions here:
>>
>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-windows-vista-compatibility-mode/
>>
>> Hope this helps
>>
>>
>> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Andrew <Alan_mansfield@...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> I finally decided to step into the 21st century and add a laptop to
>> my rig... I purchased an E-mu USB 0404 to interface the laptop with my
>> hardware, and it came with a nice bundle of software that included a
>> CD entitled 'Proteus VX Software/Manual Installation CD-Rom.'  The
>> first time I tried to install it, nothing happened... the second time,
>> as far as I can tell, it installed properly, but nothing happens when
>> I try to launch it.  I looked around the web to see if there were any
>> issues with Vista, and the reaction was about 50/50 as to if it would
>> work or not... anybody here have any ideas on getting it to work with
>> Vista?  Looks like there should be a lot of good stuff on that disc,
>> and I'd love to use it.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>> _________________________________________________________________
>>> Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live.
>>>
>> http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008
>>>
>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>>
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Hey there, I heard that if you bought a Vista Computer, you cannot go back to XP, because of hardware incompatibility, is this true??? I have a Dell with XP and a HP with Vista, the HP has all kinds of issues the DVD drive worked 2 times and now it doesn't even see it. I hate PC's...
Talk to me 
TOMTEL


--- On Fri, 2/20/09, Szőnyi András <andras@...> wrote:

> From: Szőnyi András <andras@...>
> Subject: RE: [xl7] Re: Someone else who can't figure out Proteus VX
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 1:20 PM
> I sent you a quick answer to your question, but it was
> banned (?)
> ... maybe I was using too strong words about Windows :)
> 
> 
> It was the lighter part of that email,
> hope that will reach the list:
> 
> "I think Windows XP is still the best platform for
> making audio
> in PC environment. All audio softwares work well with it.
> If you have all drivers available in XP for your laptop,
> I recommend you to "downgrade" your operation
> system."
> 
> 
> Andr
> 
> On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Andrew wrote:
> 
> >
> > Thanks for the tip... unfortunately though, it still
> wont launch... grrrr.... I even tried compatibility mode for
> W2000, and NT, with and without windows access control
> activated...with and without running it as
> administrator...etc.  I'm wondering if it just
> doesn't like running on an intel chip... ever heard of
> any compatibilty issues?  I think I'm probably just SOL
> unless E-mu releases an updated driver or patch.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >> From: thelizardbloke@...
> >> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:33:02 +0000
> >> Subject: [xl7] Re: Someone else who can't
> figure out Proteus VX
> >>
> >> This may already have been suggested, but Vista
> has a "Compatibility
> >> Mode", whereby you can trick the software
> into thinking it's running
> >> in a different environment (such as Windows XP).
> >>
> >> You just need to find the application's
> installation directory
> >> (usually /Program Files/<software company
> name>/<application>) then
> >> find the .EXE file, right-click on the .EXE and
> find the Compatibility
> >> tab. Try setting it to XP SP2.
> >>
> >> Full instructions here:
> >>
> >>
> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-windows-vista-compatibility-mode/
> >>
> >> Hope this helps
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Andrew
> <Alan_mansfield@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I finally decided to step into the 21st
> century and add a laptop to
> >> my rig... I purchased an E-mu USB 0404 to
> interface the laptop with my
> >> hardware, and it came with a nice bundle of
> software that included a
> >> CD entitled 'Proteus VX Software/Manual
> Installation CD-Rom.'  The
> >> first time I tried to install it, nothing
> happened... the second time,
> >> as far as I can tell, it installed properly, but
> nothing happens when
> >> I try to launch it.  I looked around the web to
> see if there were any
> >> issues with Vista, and the reaction was about
> 50/50 as to if it would
> >> work or not... anybody here have any ideas on
> getting it to work with
> >> Vista?  Looks like there should be a lot of good
> stuff on that disc,
> >> and I'd love to use it.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> Andrew
> >>>
> >>>
> _________________________________________________________________
> >>> Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden
> secrets of Windows Live.
> >>>
> >>
> http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008
> >>>
> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been
> removed]
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> _________________________________________________________________
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> >
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I've never had XP... this is a new laptop that came with Vista installed, and before this I've always been all hardware.

> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> From: andras@...
> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 19:20:10 +0100
> Subject: RE: [xl7] Re: Someone else who can't figure out Proteus VX
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I sent you a quick answer to your question, but it was banned (?)
> ... maybe I was using too strong words about Windows :)
> 
> 
> It was the lighter part of that email,
> hope that will reach the list:
> 
> "I think Windows XP is still the best platform for making audio
> in PC environment. All audio softwares work well with it.
> If you have all drivers available in XP for your laptop,
> I recommend you to "downgrade" your operation system."
> 
> 
> Andr
> 
> On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Andrew wrote:
> 
> >
> > Thanks for the tip... unfortunately though, it still wont launch... grrrr.... I even tried compatibility mode for W2000, and NT, with and without windows access control activated...with and without running it as administrator...etc.  I'm wondering if it just doesn't like running on an intel chip... ever heard of any compatibilty issues?  I think I'm probably just SOL unless E-mu releases an updated driver or patch.
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> >> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >> From: thelizardbloke@...
> >> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:33:02 +0000
> >> Subject: [xl7] Re: Someone else who can't figure out Proteus VX
> >>
> >> This may already have been suggested, but Vista has a "Compatibility
> >> Mode", whereby you can trick the software into thinking it's running
> >> in a different environment (such as Windows XP).
> >>
> >> You just need to find the application's installation directory
> >> (usually /Program Files/<software company name>/<application>) then
> >> find the .EXE file, right-click on the .EXE and find the Compatibility
> >> tab. Try setting it to XP SP2.
> >>
> >> Full instructions here:
> >>
> >> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-windows-vista-compatibility-mode/
> >>
> >> Hope this helps
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Andrew <Alan_mansfield@...> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I finally decided to step into the 21st century and add a laptop to
> >> my rig... I purchased an E-mu USB 0404 to interface the laptop with my
> >> hardware, and it came with a nice bundle of software that included a
> >> CD entitled 'Proteus VX Software/Manual Installation CD-Rom.'  The
> >> first time I tried to install it, nothing happened... the second time,
> >> as far as I can tell, it installed properly, but nothing happens when
> >> I try to launch it.  I looked around the web to see if there were any
> >> issues with Vista, and the reaction was about 50/50 as to if it would
> >> work or not... anybody here have any ideas on getting it to work with
> >> Vista?  Looks like there should be a lot of good stuff on that disc,
> >> and I'd love to use it.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks!
> >>> Andrew
> >>>
> >>> _________________________________________________________________
> >>> Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live.
> >>>
> >> http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008
> >>>
> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------
> >>
> >> Yahoo! Groups Links
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Windows Live�: Keep your life in sync.
> > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009
> >
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Yes, I can imagine that.
That's why I wrote if all hardware drivers available for that laptop...


Andr

On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, tom johnson wrote:

> Hey there, I heard that if you bought a Vista Computer, you cannot go back to XP, because of hardware incompatibility, is this true??? I have a Dell with XP and a HP with Vista, the HP has all kinds of issues the DVD drive worked 2 times and now it doesn't even see it. I hate PC's...
> Talk to me
> TOMTEL
>
>
> --- On Fri, 2/20/09, Sz�nyi Andr�s <andras@...> wrote:
>
>> From: Sz�nyi Andr�s <andras@...>
>> Subject: RE: [xl7] Re: Someone else who can't figure out Proteus VX
>> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 1:20 PM
>> I sent you a quick answer to your question, but it was
>> banned (?)
>> ... maybe I was using too strong words about Windows :)
>>
>>
>> It was the lighter part of that email,
>> hope that will reach the list:
>>
>> "I think Windows XP is still the best platform for
>> making audio
>> in PC environment. All audio softwares work well with it.
>> If you have all drivers available in XP for your laptop,
>> I recommend you to "downgrade" your operation
>> system."
>>
>>
>> Andr
>>
>> On Fri, 20 Feb 2009, Andrew wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for the tip... unfortunately though, it still
>> wont launch... grrrr.... I even tried compatibility mode for
>> W2000, and NT, with and without windows access control
>> activated...with and without running it as
>> administrator...etc.  I'm wondering if it just
>> doesn't like running on an intel chip... ever heard of
>> any compatibilty issues?  I think I'm probably just SOL
>> unless E-mu releases an updated driver or patch.
>>>
>>> Andrew
>>>
>>>> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>>>> From: thelizardbloke@...
>>>> Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 01:33:02 +0000
>>>> Subject: [xl7] Re: Someone else who can't
>> figure out Proteus VX
>>>>
>>>> This may already have been suggested, but Vista
>> has a "Compatibility
>>>> Mode", whereby you can trick the software
>> into thinking it's running
>>>> in a different environment (such as Windows XP).
>>>>
>>>> You just need to find the application's
>> installation directory
>>>> (usually /Program Files/<software company
>> name>/<application>) then
>>>> find the .EXE file, right-click on the .EXE and
>> find the Compatibility
>>>> tab. Try setting it to XP SP2.
>>>>
>>>> Full instructions here:
>>>>
>>>>
>> http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/using-windows-vista-compatibility-mode/
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Andrew
>> <Alan_mansfield@...> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I finally decided to step into the 21st
>> century and add a laptop to
>>>> my rig... I purchased an E-mu USB 0404 to
>> interface the laptop with my
>>>> hardware, and it came with a nice bundle of
>> software that included a
>>>> CD entitled 'Proteus VX Software/Manual
>> Installation CD-Rom.'  The
>>>> first time I tried to install it, nothing
>> happened... the second time,
>>>> as far as I can tell, it installed properly, but
>> nothing happens when
>>>> I try to launch it.  I looked around the web to
>> see if there were any
>>>> issues with Vista, and the reaction was about
>> 50/50 as to if it would
>>>> work or not... anybody here have any ideas on
>> getting it to work with
>>>> Vista?  Looks like there should be a lot of good
>> stuff on that disc,
>>>> and I'd love to use it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>> Andrew
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>>>>> Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden
>> secrets of Windows Live.
>>>>>
>>>>
>> http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008
>>>>>
>>>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been
>> removed]
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>>> Windows Live��: Keep your life in sync.
>>>
>> http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_022009
>>>
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>>>
>>>
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>>>
>>> Yahoo! Groups Links
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>>>
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Not sure why this message was automatically routed into the "Spam?" 
box. I have not seen any messages sent there before. Maybe the Yahoo 
Group spam filters raise a red flag when a message seems to be 
trashing different computer systems. Anyhow, here it is.
--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Szõnyi András <andras@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> I think Windows XP is still the best platform for making audio
> in PC environment. All audio softwares work well with it.
> If you have all drivers available in XP for your laptop, I 
recommend you
> to "downgrade" your operation system.
> 
> Vista is a dead end, and a shame of Microsoft... maybe the Windows 
7 (?)
> will be the next useful member of the Windows series.
> 
> 
> Andrew
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Andrew wrote:
> 
> >
> > I finally decided to step into the 21st century and add a laptop 
to my rig... I purchased an E-mu USB 0404 to interface the laptop 
with my hardware, and it came with a nice bundle of software that 
included a CD entitled 'Proteus VX Software/Manual Installation CD-
Rom.'  The first time I tried to install it, nothing happened... the 
second time, as far as I can tell, it installed properly, but nothing 
happens when I try to launch it.  I looked around the web to see if 
there were any issues with Vista, and the reaction was about 50/50 as 
to if it would work or not... anybody here have any ideas on getting 
it to work with Vista?  Looks like there should be a lot of good 
stuff on that disc, and I'd love to use it.
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Andrew
> >
> > _________________________________________________________________
> > Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live.
> > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-
Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008

> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
> >
>

Vista has it's issues BUT once configured properly, it really works quite well, esp if you install the Service Pack 1 update-really fixes most of the problem ridlded-probably released too soon- OS. It's more like a new OS install than a service pack....anyway there is a lot of info on using audio cards and audio interfaces with Vista and one that helps a lot is on the Echo audio site (www.echoaudio.com) related to their firewire cards but really touches on the vista/audio issues related to any type interface. Vista uses "Core Audio" and is a different approach to dealing with audio than previous OS's like XP. You might also check out the Sonar (Cakewalk) site as there is a lot of Vista related info there. Also search for Core Audio on the net-I am assuming you have a Vista driver from EMU , if not you may be dead in the water. 



----- "Szőnyi András" <andras@...> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> 


> 
> I think Windows XP is still the best platform for making audio 
> in PC environment. All audio softwares work well with it. 
> If you have all drivers available in XP for your laptop, I recommend you 
> to "downgrade" your operation system. 
> 
> Vista is a dead end, and a shame of Microsoft... maybe the Windows 7 (?) 
> will be the next useful member of the Windows series. 
> 
> Andrew 
> 
> On Wed, 18 Feb 2009, Andrew wrote: 
> 
> > 
> > I finally decided to step into the 21st century and add a laptop to my rig... I purchased an E-mu USB 0404 to interface the laptop with my hardware, and it came with a nice bundle of software that included a CD entitled 'Proteus VX Software/Manual Installation CD-Rom.' The first time I tried to install it, nothing happened... the second time, as far as I can tell, it installed properly, but nothing happens when I try to launch it. I looked around the web to see if there were any issues with Vista, and the reaction was about 50/50 as to if it would work or not... anybody here have any ideas on getting it to work with Vista? Looks like there should be a lot of good stuff on that disc, and I'd love to use it. 
> > 
> > Thanks! 
> > Andrew 
> > 
> > __________________________________________________________ 
> > Get more out of the Web. Learn 10 hidden secrets of Windows Live. 
> > http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns !550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 
> > 
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> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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I went and looked at the download sites and the general consensus
seems to be that it is not supported under Vista, however, some people
in the forums say they have it working under Vista. I'm wondering if
the Vista machines that work are machines that were upgraded from XP
and the ones that don't work had Vista installed when they were purchased.

An upgraded machine would likely still retain many of the older OSes
files (.dll, .ocx etc). The Vista versions of these files may not play
nicely with the proteus software. These files, amongst other things,
control the way in which the OS is 'allowed' to talk to the hardware. 

As an interesting experiment perhaps someone with a Vista machine
could try downloading a piece of software called Dependency Walker
(depends.exe). When you run this and point it at an executable file it
will show all the files that executable requires (and if any of them
are missing). It may prove to be a good starting point but trying to
unravel software is usually a long, involved process.

Sorry I can't be more helpful at this point. If I think of anything
else I'll let you know.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Andrew <Alan_mansfield@...> wrote:
>
> 
> I've never had XP... this is a new laptop that came with Vista
installed, and before this I've always been all hardware.
>