Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Hello fellow Command Station users, I have been experiencing a timing 
problem since day one. I can copy a pattern to the next open spot, 
and when I go from one to the next, the start is out of time. If I do 
not change patterns, and let just one pattern loop, it is in perfect 
time. I have tried everything to stop this problem, nothing makes it 
work. I decided to use the MP-7 as a tone generator instead, slaved 
to a rock solid sequencer in a Roland MC-909. I built a pattern in 
the MP-7 with no sequencer info, just patch selections for the 
corresponding midi tracks on the MC-909. I saved the choices each 
time I finished a channel. I saved these sound selections 16 times on 
this one pattern, to be sure they were there, I switched to a 
different pattern, and played it, then switched back. They were still 
there, so I was confident I could switch it off, after six hours of 
work. So today I turn everything back on, and the sounds have not 
been remembered by the MP-7. I saved it so often, I have to wonder, 
WHAT is it saving when it says it's saved something? there was no 
sequencer data, just sound selection, and it didn't save it. All I 
have that it saved was the name I had given it.BIG DRAG.Why would a 
Multisetup be needed to stop this, when I used an empty pattern to 
start with? What is the point of such O.S. destuctive tendencies? 
This purple box has fine sounds, but is crippled by an O.S. that 
follows no logic.I have sequenced on Roland, Korg, Sequential, Quasi-
midi, and Yamaha gear for 26 years and have never had a problem.When 
a programmer saves a pattern, the machine should SAVE THE PATTERN. I 
am very frusrated with this not working correctly. Anyone who can 
tell me how to do it so it works, would be like a friend indeed. I 
have O.S. 2.0. and I have added the XL-1 rom, and the Orch-1 rom 
(most of which shows sound names, but plays no sounds, another 
drag).  Thanks for listening to me moan like a JX-8P.   ESW.

Glad to hear some of your frustration was resolved with the 
multiseup solution.  I am not sure I understand what you are doing 
entirely, but if your E-Mu is a slave and all the note data is 
coming from an external sequencer, you need to have some sort of 
data (such as controller data setting the volume to 127) on the E-Mu 
tracks to preserve the settings. Otherwise, if the OS sees a track 
with no controller or note data, it will not save your preset 
settings.

If I understand what you are trying to do, take a look at:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/19586

This was part of a discussion about why channel assignments to 
external gear kept getting reset to internal when patterns were 
saved. You need some "dummy" data on the tracks to prevent the OS 
from thinking its an empty track.

Again, I am not sure I understand what have been trying to do, but I 
hope this helps you to get the most out of your gear.

--Steve

we talked about one of your problems before. 

go in to the midi menu
look for the receive program change screen
turn all channels ON in the receive program change screen

there is an option to make the xl-7 keep the same tempo when switching
patterns. it might be in the global menu.  i think your option has
been turned off. 
if it is turned off then when you switch patterns it will use the new
patterns tempo and sound like it is off.

multisetup is not the way to go...trust me.



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "eric_swhite" <eric_swhite@...> wrote:
>
> Hello fellow Command Station users, I have been experiencing a timing 
> problem since day one. I can copy a pattern to the next open spot, 
> and when I go from one to the next, the start is out of time. If I do 
> not change patterns, and let just one pattern loop, it is in perfect 
> time. I have tried everything to stop this problem, nothing makes it 
> work. I decided to use the MP-7 as a tone generator instead, slaved 
> to a rock solid sequencer in a Roland MC-909. I built a pattern in 
> the MP-7 with no sequencer info, just patch selections for the 
> corresponding midi tracks on the MC-909. I saved the choices each 
> time I finished a channel. I saved these sound selections 16 times on 
> this one pattern, to be sure they were there, I switched to a 
> different pattern, and played it, then switched back. They were still 
> there, so I was confident I could switch it off, after six hours of 
> work. So today I turn everything back on, and the sounds have not 
> been remembered by the MP-7. I saved it so often, I have to wonder, 
> WHAT is it saving when it says it's saved something? there was no 
> sequencer data, just sound selection, and it didn't save it. All I 
> have that it saved was the name I had given it.BIG DRAG.Why would a 
> Multisetup be needed to stop this, when I used an empty pattern to 
> start with? What is the point of such O.S. destuctive tendencies? 
> This purple box has fine sounds, but is crippled by an O.S. that 
> follows no logic.I have sequenced on Roland, Korg, Sequential, Quasi-
> midi, and Yamaha gear for 26 years and have never had a problem.When 
> a programmer saves a pattern, the machine should SAVE THE PATTERN. I 
> am very frusrated with this not working correctly. Anyone who can 
> tell me how to do it so it works, would be like a friend indeed. I 
> have O.S. 2.0. and I have added the XL-1 rom, and the Orch-1 rom 
> (most of which shows sound names, but plays no sounds, another 
> drag).  Thanks for listening to me moan like a JX-8P.   ESW.
>

steve's also right the xl-7 will not save your patch changes for any
pattern unless you enter midi data INTO THE XL-7.  you are playing the
xl-7 externally w/ midi notes from another sequencer.  but the xl-7
doesn't "see" any notes in the pattern so it doesn't remember the
sounds for the notes that aren't there...dig?


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "eric_swhite" <eric_swhite@...> wrote:
>
> Hello fellow Command Station users, I have been experiencing a timing 
> problem since day one. I can copy a pattern to the next open spot, 
> and when I go from one to the next, the start is out of time. If I do 
> not change patterns, and let just one pattern loop, it is in perfect 
> time. I have tried everything to stop this problem, nothing makes it 
> work. I decided to use the MP-7 as a tone generator instead, slaved 
> to a rock solid sequencer in a Roland MC-909. I built a pattern in 
> the MP-7 with no sequencer info, just patch selections for the 
> corresponding midi tracks on the MC-909. I saved the choices each 
> time I finished a channel. I saved these sound selections 16 times on 
> this one pattern, to be sure they were there, I switched to a 
> different pattern, and played it, then switched back. They were still 
> there, so I was confident I could switch it off, after six hours of 
> work. So today I turn everything back on, and the sounds have not 
> been remembered by the MP-7. I saved it so often, I have to wonder, 
> WHAT is it saving when it says it's saved something? there was no 
> sequencer data, just sound selection, and it didn't save it. All I 
> have that it saved was the name I had given it.BIG DRAG.Why would a 
> Multisetup be needed to stop this, when I used an empty pattern to 
> start with? What is the point of such O.S. destuctive tendencies? 
> This purple box has fine sounds, but is crippled by an O.S. that 
> follows no logic.I have sequenced on Roland, Korg, Sequential, Quasi-
> midi, and Yamaha gear for 26 years and have never had a problem.When 
> a programmer saves a pattern, the machine should SAVE THE PATTERN. I 
> am very frusrated with this not working correctly. Anyone who can 
> tell me how to do it so it works, would be like a friend indeed. I 
> have O.S. 2.0. and I have added the XL-1 rom, and the Orch-1 rom 
> (most of which shows sound names, but plays no sounds, another 
> drag).  Thanks for listening to me moan like a JX-8P.   ESW.
>