Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I've been trying all day to get the xl7 installed w/ usb support to no
avail.  XP automatically "installs" the xl7 when I plug it in via usb
but when I go to device manager it is listed as an unknown device. 
When i go to the properties of the unknown device it says that no
drivers are installed, so I click update drivers and select the ones
on cd but then windows tells me that the drivers are not as good as
the ones already installed!!!
Dammit the properties told me there were no drivers installed!!

WTF!!

Anyone else have this problem?
I've tried getting windows to not recognize and auto install the
machine but no luck.

Although I had success with Win98 and E-Mu's USB, I was never able to 
get it to work with XP, despite numerous attempts. I even tried some 
tricks to fool the usb enumerator, unfortunately without success.

This issue has been raised several times of the years. I believe there 
was one person who had a suggestion that I never got to try. I believe 
it involved resetting a specific chip manufaturer's settings.

Some users report success with setting up E-Mu's usb drivers with XP.

I will try searching the archives to see if I can post links to those 
threads.




--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dwn4tupac" <dwn4tupac@...> wrote:

>
> I've been trying all day to get the xl7 installed w/ usb support to no
> avail.  XP automatically "installs" the xl7 when I plug it in via usb
> but when I go to device manager it is listed as an unknown device. 
> When i go to the properties of the unknown device it says that no
> drivers are installed, so I click update drivers and select the ones
> on cd but then windows tells me that the drivers are not as good as
> the ones already installed!!!
> Dammit the properties told me there were no drivers installed!!
> 
> WTF!!
> 
> Anyone else have this problem?
> I've tried getting windows to not recognize and auto install the
> machine but no luck.
>

Here's the link to the possible solution I was remembering. I am not 
sure if it will help as I never followed through. I suggest you read 
the thread to get the full discussion.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/17496

Let us know if you follow through and if it solves the problem.

--Steve

> There was one person who had a suggestion that I never got to try.
> It involved resetting a specific chip manufaturer's settings.

On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, steve_the_composer wrote:

> Although I had success with Win98 and E-Mu's USB, I was never able to 
> get it to work with XP, despite numerous attempts. I even tried some 
> tricks to fool the usb enumerator, unfortunately without success.
>
> This issue has been raised several times of the years. I believe there 
> was one person who had a suggestion that I never got to try. I believe 
> it involved resetting a specific chip manufaturer's settings.
=================

i'd still like to see a more OS-agnostic approach to transferring files 
between a xx7 and a computer... the xx7 should support a "dumb" mode where 
it acts like a flash drive. the computer can then open folders such as 
"patch_data", "songs", "loops", etc and just drag-n-drop and rename files 
as needed.

that would also solve my problem of getting my XL7 to talk to a BSD box.

maybe in OS3...?


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On Jun 26, 2008, at 7:34 PM, steve_the_composer wrote:

>> I've been trying all day to get the xl7 installed w/ usb support to  
>> no
>> avail.  XP automatically "installs" the xl7 when I plug it in via usb
>> but when I go to device manager it is listed as an unknown device.
>> When i go to the properties of the unknown device it says that no
>> drivers are installed, so I click update drivers and select the ones
>> on cd but then windows tells me that the drivers are not as good as
>> the ones already installed!!!
>> Dammit the properties told me there were no drivers installed!!
>>
>> WTF!!
>>
>> Anyone else have this problem?
>> I've tried getting windows to not recognize and auto install the
>> machine but no luck.

> Although I had success with Win98 and E-Mu's USB, I was never able to
> get it to work with XP, despite numerous attempts. I even tried some
> tricks to fool the usb enumerator, unfortunately without success.
>
> This issue has been raised several times of the years. I believe there
> was one person who had a suggestion that I never got to try. I believe
> it involved resetting a specific chip manufaturer's settings.
>
> Some users report success with setting up E-Mu's usb drivers with XP.
>
> I will try searching the archives to see if I can post links to those
> threads.

Download and install the E-Loader 1.1 downloadable from E-mu's website.

Restart the machine without the XL-7 connected. Once you are in  
Windows and it has stopped doing all of that crapola it does at the  
start (listen for your disk to stop churning), then and only then plug  
in the XL-7's USB cable. Allow it to automatically detect the driver  
and it will do so.

Now, this may be what you're doing, but I've done this three times on  
three different systems and it has worked exactly the same way on all  
three. I think you'll have problems if you try to manually tell it  
what to do instead of doing it E-mu's way.

By the way, I find the USB port to be a waste - only used for faster  
sequence uploads and downloads. Yee howdy. It would have been nice to  
at least have it show up as a MIDI interface on the computer's end for  
the MIDI ports, and also the XX-7's internal channels. One of those  
things that was probably planned but they never got a chance to get  
around to it.


Mibrilane
mibrilane@...



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I actually tried doing it exactly like it says in the
manual/instructions, but it always auto recognizes regardless.
I really don't care about xfer speeds, but I want to be able to take
patterns off of the xl7 for backup purposes and no matter what I try
w/ the regular midi cables I can't take patterns off the xl7 and save
them to the pc.  I right click them in the eloader and select the save
to disk or whatever then a box comes up that tells me it can't....grrr.
So i figured if I got usb working then downloading would work
too...but now I've got a whole usb problem to deal with.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mibrilane <mibrilane@...> wrote:

>
> 
> On Jun 26, 2008, at 7:34 PM, steve_the_composer wrote:
> 
> >> I've been trying all day to get the xl7 installed w/ usb support to  
> >> no
> >> avail.  XP automatically "installs" the xl7 when I plug it in via usb
> >> but when I go to device manager it is listed as an unknown device.
> >> When i go to the properties of the unknown device it says that no
> >> drivers are installed, so I click update drivers and select the ones
> >> on cd but then windows tells me that the drivers are not as good as
> >> the ones already installed!!!
> >> Dammit the properties told me there were no drivers installed!!
> >>
> >> WTF!!
> >>
> >> Anyone else have this problem?
> >> I've tried getting windows to not recognize and auto install the
> >> machine but no luck.
> 
> > Although I had success with Win98 and E-Mu's USB, I was never able to
> > get it to work with XP, despite numerous attempts. I even tried some
> > tricks to fool the usb enumerator, unfortunately without success.
> >
> > This issue has been raised several times of the years. I believe there
> > was one person who had a suggestion that I never got to try. I believe
> > it involved resetting a specific chip manufaturer's settings.
> >
> > Some users report success with setting up E-Mu's usb drivers with XP.
> >
> > I will try searching the archives to see if I can post links to those
> > threads.
> 
> Download and install the E-Loader 1.1 downloadable from E-mu's website.
> 
> Restart the machine without the XL-7 connected. Once you are in  
> Windows and it has stopped doing all of that crapola it does at the  
> start (listen for your disk to stop churning), then and only then plug  
> in the XL-7's USB cable. Allow it to automatically detect the driver  
> and it will do so.
> 
> Now, this may be what you're doing, but I've done this three times on  
> three different systems and it has worked exactly the same way on all  
> three. I think you'll have problems if you try to manually tell it  
> what to do instead of doing it E-mu's way.
> 
> By the way, I find the USB port to be a waste - only used for faster  
> sequence uploads and downloads. Yee howdy. It would have been nice to  
> at least have it show up as a MIDI interface on the computer's end for  
> the MIDI ports, and also the XX-7's internal channels. One of those  
> things that was probably planned but they never got a chance to get  
> around to it.
> 
> 
> Mibrilane
> mibrilane@...
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

It should work with midi transfer (although at 1/100th the speed).

Diagnostic question: 
When you select "Scan for MIDI devices" from e-loader's MIDI menu, 
does your e-mu show up in the dialogue box? If not, check the MIDI I/O 
port settings in midi setup. If your e-mu is listed, make sure the 
midi setup has the same sysex ID as what's listed in the Device 
Inquiry box.

Hope this helps.

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dwn4tupac" <dwn4tupac@...> wrote:
>
> I actually tried doing it exactly like it says in the
> manual/instructions, but it always auto recognizes regardless.
> I really don't care about xfer speeds, but I want to be able to take
> patterns off of the xl7 for backup purposes and no matter what I try
> w/ the regular midi cables I can't take patterns off the xl7 and save
> them to the pc.  I right click them in the eloader and select the 
save
> to disk or whatever then a box comes up that tells me it 
can't....grrr.
> So i figured if I got usb working then downloading would work
> too...but now I've got a whole usb problem to deal with.

yes I have no problems sending midi to the xl-7 and it is recognized
when i plug it in via midi, but i can't get any patterns out of the
machine onto the pc.

also does the usb allow for the xfer of midi clock?
I really hope so because I have a laptop w/ no midi in/out

N
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:

>
> It should work with midi transfer (although at 1/100th the speed).
> 
> Diagnostic question: 
> When you select "Scan for MIDI devices" from e-loader's MIDI menu, 
> does your e-mu show up in the dialogue box? If not, check the MIDI I/O 
> port settings in midi setup. If your e-mu is listed, make sure the 
> midi setup has the same sysex ID as what's listed in the Device 
> Inquiry box.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dwn4tupac" <dwn4tupac@> wrote:
> >
> > I actually tried doing it exactly like it says in the
> > manual/instructions, but it always auto recognizes regardless.
> > I really don't care about xfer speeds, but I want to be able to take
> > patterns off of the xl7 for backup purposes and no matter what I try
> > w/ the regular midi cables I can't take patterns off the xl7 and save
> > them to the pc.  I right click them in the eloader and select the 
> save
> > to disk or whatever then a box comes up that tells me it 
> can't....grrr.
> > So i figured if I got usb working then downloading would work
> > too...but now I've got a whole usb problem to deal with.
>

If you have a complete midi loop between your computer (using e-
loader) and your xl-7 (and the sysex ID is correctly listed in the 
set up), are your patterns xl-7 patterns listed in thr bank browser?

If so, select whichever patterns you want to save, right click and 
choose "get selected sequences. Then navigate to the folder where 
you want to save the patterns.

If your patterns are not listed, and you are sure your e-loader 
settings are correct (both ports and sysex ID), try pressing 
refresh.  As soon as you do, both the green and red leds (midi out 
and in leds) on the xl-7 should flash one and off very rapidly for 
about 3 seconds.

If they don't, what does it say in slot 0 of the e-loader bank 
browser? If it says <not received> and slots 1 - 127 say <no name 
loaded> then you do not have e-loader and the xl-7 set up to 
communicate with each other via midi system exclusive commands for 
some reason. 

Is there any device in your system that might be filtering out the 
sysex commands? This is important because because the pattern dumps 
use sysex to transfer the songs via midi.

Hope this helps.

As for the e-mu's usb port, you cannot use that as a substitute for 
midi. You either need a midi interface or a device such as a usb 
keyboard that has a selectable midi port.

--Steve 

  
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dwn4tupac" <dwn4tupac@...> wrote:
>
> yes I have no problems sending midi to the xl-7 and it is 
recognized

> when i plug it in via midi, but i can't get any patterns out of the
> machine onto the pc.
> 
> also does the usb allow for the xfer of midi clock?
> I really hope so because I have a laptop w/ no midi in/out
> 
> N

PS: e-loader uses Sun's java. I mention this in case that might be the 
source of the problem. When you run e-loader, check the Message 
Console (under the Window menu) to see if there are any signs of 
problems with java. (This is a long-shot, but who knows. If you have a 
probper midi loop, if all settings are correct, and nothing is 
filtering out sysex commands, its worth taking a peek.)  
--Steve

>
> If you have a complete midi loop between your computer (using e-
> loader) and your xl-7 (and the sysex ID is correctly listed in the 
> set up), are your patterns xl-7 patterns listed in the bank browser?
> 
yes

> If so, select whichever patterns you want to save, right click and 
> choose "get selected sequences. Then navigate to the folder where 
> you want to save the patterns.

I told you already that I get to this point and click save and another
box pops up telling me that it can't save the midi file to disk...no
explanation is given.

 
> If your patterns are not listed, and you are sure your e-loader 
> settings are correct (both ports and sysex ID), try pressing 
> refresh.  As soon as you do, both the green and red leds (midi out 
> and in leds) on the xl-7 should flash one and off very rapidly for 
> about 3 seconds.

My patterns are all listed in the eloader librarian. I have no
problems putting midi files on to the xl7.  Just taking them off
doesn't work.

> If they don't, what does it say in slot 0 of the e-loader bank 
> browser? 

It says the name of pattern 1 in bank 0 (currently underworld-born slippy
 
> Is there any device in your system that might be filtering out the 
> sysex commands? 

Only possibly the xl-7 itself.

Sorry for making you repeat it. I tried to repliacte the error you 
got, but couldn't).  Sorry I couldn't help.

--Steve 

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dwn4tupac" <dwn4tupac@...> wrote:
>
> I told you already that I get to this point and click save and
> another box pops up telling me that it can't save the midi file to
> disk...no explanation is given.

> My patterns are all listed in the eloader librarian. I have no
> problems putting midi files on to the xl7.  Just taking them off
> doesn't work.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dwn4tupac" <dwn4tupac@...> wrote:

>
> I actually tried doing it exactly like it says in the
> manual/instructions, but it always auto recognizes regardless.
> I really don't care about xfer speeds, but I want to be able to
> take patterns off of the xl7 for backup purposes and no matter
> what I try w/ the regular midi cables I can't take patterns off
> the xl7 and save them to the pc.  I right click them in the
> eloader and select the save to disk or whatever then a box comes
> up that tells me it can't....grrr.
> So i figured if I got usb working then downloading would work
> too...but now I've got a whole usb problem to deal with.

First of all greetings to all here! I've been waiting to ask the same
question and have the exact same problem with XP. I can see all the
sequences and songs in E-loader but when I try to upload a sequence or
song to my pc it says it can't do it with a red stop sign! No
explanation. Also, in the MIDI setup window the only way E-loader will
bring up the XL-7's sequences is when the Sysex device ID is set to 1
but the actual device ID numbers are 0. If I change the number to 0 to
match the device numbers it won't even read the XL-7! This is
supposedly a key point that the numbers should match so I'm lost. 

Since I will only be connecting my XL-7 to my XP PC for sequence
backup/restore you guys say that I can do that with just a MIDI I/O
connection and no USB? That would take a load off my mind. Cheers!







--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:

>
> PS: e-loader uses Sun's java. I mention this in case that might be the 
> source of the problem. When you run e-loader, check the Message 
> Console (under the Window menu) to see if there are any signs of 
> problems with java. (This is a long-shot, but who knows. If you have a 
> probper midi loop, if all settings are correct, and nothing is 
> filtering out sysex commands, its worth taking a peek.)  
> --Steve
>

I'm wondering if some of these problems aren't caused by a corrupted
os 2.0 update... anyone have some insight?


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@...> wrote:
>
> First of all greetings to all here! I've been waiting to ask the same
> question and have the exact same problem with XP. I can see all the
> sequences and songs in E-loader but when I try to upload a sequence or
> song to my pc it says it can't do it with a red stop sign! No
> explanation. Also, in the MIDI setup window the only way E-loader will
> bring up the XL-7's sequences is when the Sysex device ID is set to 1
> but the actual device ID numbers are 0. If I change the number to 0 to
> match the device numbers it won't even read the XL-7! This is
> supposedly a key point that the numbers should match so I'm lost. 
> 
> Since I will only be connecting my XL-7 to my XP PC for sequence
> backup/restore you guys say that I can do that with just a MIDI I/O
> connection and no USB? That would take a load off my mind. Cheers!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@> wrote:
> >
> > PS: e-loader uses Sun's java. I mention this in case that might be
the 
> > source of the problem. When you run e-loader, check the Message 
> > Console (under the Window menu) to see if there are any signs of 
> > problems with java. (This is a long-shot, but who knows. If you
have a 

> > probper midi loop, if all settings are correct, and nothing is 
> > filtering out sysex commands, its worth taking a peek.)  
> > --Steve
> >
>

Your OS is fine.  They're checksummed on download.  If it runs at all, it's fine.

----- Original Message ----
From: dwn4tupac <dwn4tupac@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 6:30:40 PM
Subject: [xl7] Re: USB problems w/ XP

I'm wondering if some of these problems aren't caused by a corrupted
os 2.0 update... anyone have some insight?


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@...> wrote:
>
> First of all greetings to all here! I've been waiting to ask the same
> question and have the exact same problem with XP. I can see all the
> sequences and songs in E-loader but when I try to upload a sequence or
> song to my pc it says it can't do it with a red stop sign! No
> explanation. Also, in the MIDI setup window the only way E-loader will
> bring up the XL-7's sequences is when the Sysex device ID is set to 1
> but the actual device ID numbers are 0. If I change the number to 0 to
> match the device numbers it won't even read the XL-7! This is
> supposedly a key point that the numbers should match so I'm lost. 
> 
> Since I will only be connecting my XL-7 to my XP PC for sequence
> backup/restore you guys say that I can do that with just a MIDI I/O
> connection and no USB? That would take a load off my mind. Cheers!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@> wrote:
> >
> > PS: e-loader uses Sun's java. I mention this in case that might be
the 
> > source of the problem. When you run e-loader, check the Message 
> > Console (under the Window menu) to see if there are any signs of 
> > problems with java. (This is a long-shot, but who knows. If you
have a 
> > probper midi loop, if all settings are correct, and nothing is 
> > filtering out sysex commands, its worth taking a peek.)  
> > --Steve
> >
>



------------------------------------

Yahoo! Groups Links

well that clears that up then...thx

N

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote:
>
> Your OS is fine.  They're checksummed on download.  If it runs at
all, it's fine.

> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: dwn4tupac <dwn4tupac@...>
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 6:30:40 PM
> Subject: [xl7] Re: USB problems w/ XP
> 
> I'm wondering if some of these problems aren't caused by a corrupted
> os 2.0 update... anyone have some insight?
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@...m, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@> wrote:
> >
> > First of all greetings to all here! I've been waiting to ask the same
> > question and have the exact same problem with XP. I can see all the
> > sequences and songs in E-loader but when I try to upload a sequence or
> > song to my pc it says it can't do it with a red stop sign! No
> > explanation. Also, in the MIDI setup window the only way E-loader will
> > bring up the XL-7's sequences is when the Sysex device ID is set to 1
> > but the actual device ID numbers are 0. If I change the number to 0 to
> > match the device numbers it won't even read the XL-7! This is
> > supposedly a key point that the numbers should match so I'm lost. 
> > 
> > Since I will only be connecting my XL-7 to my XP PC for sequence
> > backup/restore you guys say that I can do that with just a MIDI I/O
> > connection and no USB? That would take a load off my mind. Cheers!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@> wrote:
> > >
> > > PS: e-loader uses Sun's java. I mention this in case that might be
> the 
> > > source of the problem. When you run e-loader, check the Message 
> > > Console (under the Window menu) to see if there are any signs of 
> > > problems with java. (This is a long-shot, but who knows. If you
> have a 
> > > probper midi loop, if all settings are correct, and nothing is 
> > > filtering out sysex commands, its worth taking a peek.)  
> > > --Steve
> > >
> >
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------
> 
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

Just to make sure then can I still backup/restore sequence data using
only a MIDI I/O connection on Windows XP without the USB?





--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dwn4tupac" <dwn4tupac@...> wrote:
>
> well that clears that up then...thx
> 
> N
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@> wrote:
> >
> > Your OS is fine.  They're checksummed on download.  If it runs at
> all, it's fine.
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: dwn4tupac <dwn4tupac@>
> > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 6:30:40 PM
> > Subject: [xl7] Re: USB problems w/ XP
> > 
> > I'm wondering if some of these problems aren't caused by a corrupted
> > os 2.0 update... anyone have some insight?
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@> wrote:
> > >
> > > First of all greetings to all here! I've been waiting to ask the
same
> > > question and have the exact same problem with XP. I can see all the
> > > sequences and songs in E-loader but when I try to upload a
sequence or
> > > song to my pc it says it can't do it with a red stop sign! No
> > > explanation. Also, in the MIDI setup window the only way
E-loader will
> > > bring up the XL-7's sequences is when the Sysex device ID is set
to 1
> > > but the actual device ID numbers are 0. If I change the number
to 0 to

> > > match the device numbers it won't even read the XL-7! This is
> > > supposedly a key point that the numbers should match so I'm lost. 
> > > 
> > > Since I will only be connecting my XL-7 to my XP PC for sequence
> > > backup/restore you guys say that I can do that with just a MIDI I/O
> > > connection and no USB? That would take a load off my mind. Cheers!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > PS: e-loader uses Sun's java. I mention this in case that might be
> > the 
> > > > source of the problem. When you run e-loader, check the Message 
> > > > Console (under the Window menu) to see if there are any signs of 
> > > > problems with java. (This is a long-shot, but who knows. If you
> > have a 
> > > > probper midi loop, if all settings are correct, and nothing is 
> > > > filtering out sysex commands, its worth taking a peek.)  
> > > > --Steve
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ------------------------------------
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>

Yes, USB only makes things faster.  One tip that has helped folks from the past was to connect to a USB 1.1 hub instead of a port that supports 2.0.  If all else fails, that's always something to try.  I should really try setting this up with my unit at home.  I have all my sequences on there that aren't anywhere else.  Maybe I'll have the same problems and can help sort them out.

-Aaron

----- Original Message ----
From: dutchbeats <dutchbeats@...>
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, July 3, 2008 7:04:13 PM
Subject: [xl7] Re: USB problems w/ XP

Just to make sure then can I still backup/restore sequence data using
only a MIDI I/O connection on Windows XP without the USB?





--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dwn4tupac" <dwn4tupac@...> wrote:
>
> well that clears that up then...thx
> 
> N
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@> wrote:
> >
> > Your OS is fine.  They're checksummed on download.  If it runs at
> all, it's fine.
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: dwn4tupac <dwn4tupac@>
> > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 2, 2008 6:30:40 PM
> > Subject: [xl7] Re: USB problems w/ XP
> > 
> > I'm wondering if some of these problems aren't caused by a corrupted
> > os 2.0 update... anyone have some insight?
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dutchbeats" <dutchbeats@> wrote:
> > >
> > > First of all greetings to all here! I've been waiting to ask the
same
> > > question and have the exact same problem with XP. I can see all the
> > > sequences and songs in E-loader but when I try to upload a
sequence or
> > > song to my pc it says it can't do it with a red stop sign! No
> > > explanation. Also, in the MIDI setup window the only way
E-loader will
> > > bring up the XL-7's sequences is when the Sysex device ID is set
to 1
> > > but the actual device ID numbers are 0. If I change the number
to 0 to
> > > match the device numbers it won't even read the XL-7! This is
> > > supposedly a key point that the numbers should match so I'm lost. 
> > > 
> > > Since I will only be connecting my XL-7 to my XP PC for sequence
> > > backup/restore you guys say that I can do that with just a MIDI I/O
> > > connection and no USB? That would take a load off my mind. Cheers!
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > PS: e-loader uses Sun's java. I mention this in case that might be
> > the 
> > > > source of the problem. When you run e-loader, check the Message 
> > > > Console (under the Window menu) to see if there are any signs of 
> > > > problems with java. (This is a long-shot, but who knows. If you
> > have a 
> > > > probper midi loop, if all settings are correct, and nothing is 
> > > > filtering out sysex commands, its worth taking a peek.)  
> > > > --Steve
> > > >
> > >
> > 
> > 
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