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tried again and again,failed to upgrade os

tried again and again,failed to upgrade os

2001-09-13 by dj4tunes@yahoo.com

hi scott
i checked the "show midi device(or whatever...)" on e-loader,it 
showed:
emu systems xl7-mfg id-24 mod id-44013 deviceid-0 revlevel-80764856
(plos).
i think it can detect i hooked the xl7,right?
i tried again,and also select the "extreme" instead of "default 
program" at the preference option.(also,i didn't select anything and 
it's set at default prog. itself when i tried to upgrade the os many 
many times b4).
after i power on the xl7(by pressing home/enter and on/off at once of 
course),the xl showed "searching for os..._ " and the e-loader 
showed "download request received" then i pressed the "download os 
file to target" soft button,and the xl7 red midi in led indicator did 
flash once(just once,less than half sec.)then i again stuck in the 
same situation(xl7 said "searching for os..._ and midi out repeatedly 
flashed" and the e-loader showed "download request received".)
i waited over 15 mins (i think if its in proper process just need 
several seconds to a min ,right?) then exit the e-loader.
then i power off the xl7.re-open the e-loader,the e-loader big logo 
graphics just stuck my pc,i had to do"ctrl/alt/del" to exit from it.
is this a bug of the e-loader too?(sometimes the top left small 
rectangular menu bar just displayed half the graphic horizontally...)
thats all i did,any suggestion?pls help.
the glitches and delay between the patterns are too ugly 
listening,even a non-musician/hobby listener can hear it.
thanks
dj4tunes

Re: [xl7] tried again and again,failed to upgrade os

2001-09-13 by Dietmar Koering

hve you asked one if there is any other cahnge to upgrade the os.... ? I now
that the most synths can be upgraded via MIDI vfiles played in a
sequencer... maybe you should load the os in cubase or etc. and connect the
midi out from da pc tu da midi in with the xl-7..I don\ufffdt know, but may be it
works..... I bougt my xl-7 3 weeks ago with the new os...  good luck
greetz
dietmar

----- Original Message -----
From: <dj4tunes@...>
To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:46 AM
Subject: [xl7] tried again and again,failed to upgrade os


> hi scott
> i checked the "show midi device(or whatever...)" on e-loader,it
> showed:
> emu systems xl7-mfg id-24 mod id-44013 deviceid-0 revlevel-80764856
> (plos).
> i think it can detect i hooked the xl7,right?
> i tried again,and also select the "extreme" instead of "default
> program" at the preference option.(also,i didn't select anything and
> it's set at default prog. itself when i tried to upgrade the os many
> many times b4).
> after i power on the xl7(by pressing home/enter and on/off at once of
> course),the xl showed "searching for os..._ " and the e-loader
> showed "download request received" then i pressed the "download os
> file to target" soft button,and the xl7 red midi in led indicator did
> flash once(just once,less than half sec.)then i again stuck in the
> same situation(xl7 said "searching for os..._ and midi out repeatedly
> flashed" and the e-loader showed "download request received".)
> i waited over 15 mins (i think if its in proper process just need
> several seconds to a min ,right?) then exit the e-loader.
> then i power off the xl7.re-open the e-loader,the e-loader big logo
> graphics just stuck my pc,i had to do"ctrl/alt/del" to exit from it.
> is this a bug of the e-loader too?(sometimes the top left small
> rectangular menu bar just displayed half the graphic horizontally...)
> thats all i did,any suggestion?pls help.
> the glitches and delay between the patterns are too ugly
> listening,even a non-musician/hobby listener can hear it.
> thanks
> dj4tunes
>
>
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Re: tried again and again,failed to upgrade os

2001-09-13 by dj4tunes@yahoo.com

hi dietmar
thx 4 ur reply
do u think the cakewalk(i'm using) can accept the .dli file(the 
xl/mp7 os file) and load them in the song?
can ur cubase do that?
thx
dj4tunes
--- In xl7@y..., "Dietmar Koering" <A.Libi@b...> wrote:
> hve you asked one if there is any other cahnge to upgrade the 
os.... ? I now
> that the most synths can be upgraded via MIDI vfiles played in a
> sequencer... maybe you should load the os in cubase or etc. and 
connect the
> midi out from da pc tu da midi in with the xl-7..I don t know, but 
may be it
> works..... I bougt my xl-7 3 weeks ago with the new os...  good luck
> greetz
> dietmar
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <dj4tunes@y...>
> To: <xl7@y...>
> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:46 AM
> Subject: [xl7] tried again and again,failed to upgrade os
> 
> 
> > hi scott
> > i checked the "show midi device(or whatever...)" on e-loader,it
> > showed:
> > emu systems xl7-mfg id-24 mod id-44013 deviceid-0 revlevel-
80764856
> > (plos).
> > i think it can detect i hooked the xl7,right?
> > i tried again,and also select the "extreme" instead of "default
> > program" at the preference option.(also,i didn't select anything 
and
> > it's set at default prog. itself when i tried to upgrade the os 
many
> > many times b4).
> > after i power on the xl7(by pressing home/enter and on/off at 
once of
> > course),the xl showed "searching for os..._ " and the e-loader
> > showed "download request received" then i pressed the "download os
> > file to target" soft button,and the xl7 red midi in led indicator 
did
> > flash once(just once,less than half sec.)then i again stuck in the
> > same situation(xl7 said "searching for os..._ and midi out 
repeatedly
> > flashed" and the e-loader showed "download request received".)
> > i waited over 15 mins (i think if its in proper process just need
> > several seconds to a min ,right?) then exit the e-loader.
> > then i power off the xl7.re-open the e-loader,the e-loader big 
logo
> > graphics just stuck my pc,i had to do"ctrl/alt/del" to exit from 
it.
> > is this a bug of the e-loader too?(sometimes the top left small
> > rectangular menu bar just displayed half the graphic 
horizontally...)
> > thats all i did,any suggestion?pls help.
> > the glitches and delay between the patterns are too ugly
> > listening,even a non-musician/hobby listener can hear it.
> > thanks
> > dj4tunes
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > xl7-unsubscribe@y...
> >
> >
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http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [xl7] Re: tried again and again,failed to upgrade os

2001-09-13 by Dietmar Koering

sorry  I thought it would be a midi file.... maybe yuo should give a mail to
emu....

----- Original Message -----
From: <dj4tunes@...>
To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 8:24 PM
Subject: [xl7] Re: tried again and again,failed to upgrade os


> hi dietmar
> thx 4 ur reply
> do u think the cakewalk(i'm using) can accept the .dli file(the
> xl/mp7 os file) and load them in the song?
> can ur cubase do that?
> thx
> dj4tunes
> --- In xl7@y..., "Dietmar Koering" <A.Libi@b...> wrote:
> > hve you asked one if there is any other cahnge to upgrade the
> os.... ? I now
> > that the most synths can be upgraded via MIDI vfiles played in a
> > sequencer... maybe you should load the os in cubase or etc. and
> connect the
> > midi out from da pc tu da midi in with the xl-7..I don t know, but
> may be it
> > works..... I bougt my xl-7 3 weeks ago with the new os...  good luck
> > greetz
> > dietmar
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: <dj4tunes@y...>
> > To: <xl7@y...>
> > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2001 10:46 AM
> > Subject: [xl7] tried again and again,failed to upgrade os
> >
> >
> > > hi scott
> > > i checked the "show midi device(or whatever...)" on e-loader,it
> > > showed:
> > > emu systems xl7-mfg id-24 mod id-44013 deviceid-0 revlevel-
> 80764856
> > > (plos).
> > > i think it can detect i hooked the xl7,right?
> > > i tried again,and also select the "extreme" instead of "default
> > > program" at the preference option.(also,i didn't select anything
> and
> > > it's set at default prog. itself when i tried to upgrade the os
> many
> > > many times b4).
> > > after i power on the xl7(by pressing home/enter and on/off at
> once of
> > > course),the xl showed "searching for os..._ " and the e-loader
> > > showed "download request received" then i pressed the "download os
> > > file to target" soft button,and the xl7 red midi in led indicator
> did
> > > flash once(just once,less than half sec.)then i again stuck in the
> > > same situation(xl7 said "searching for os..._ and midi out
> repeatedly
> > > flashed" and the e-loader showed "download request received".)
> > > i waited over 15 mins (i think if its in proper process just need
> > > several seconds to a min ,right?) then exit the e-loader.
> > > then i power off the xl7.re-open the e-loader,the e-loader big
> logo
> > > graphics just stuck my pc,i had to do"ctrl/alt/del" to exit from
> it.
> > > is this a bug of the e-loader too?(sometimes the top left small
> > > rectangular menu bar just displayed half the graphic
> horizontally...)
> > > thats all i did,any suggestion?pls help.
> > > the glitches and delay between the patterns are too ugly
> > > listening,even a non-musician/hobby listener can hear it.
> > > thanks
> > > dj4tunes
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > > xl7-unsubscribe@y...
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
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Re: [xl7] Re: tried again and again,failed to upgrade os

2001-09-13 by Sean Wilhelmsen

dj4tunes@... wrote:
> 
> hi dietmar
> thx 4 ur reply
> do u think the cakewalk(i'm using) can accept the .dli file(the
> xl/mp7 os file) and load them in the song?
> can ur cubase do that?
> thx
> dj4tunes
> 

No, it requires E-Loader.  I would suggest now you contact your local
E-MU service center to arrange am E-PROM update.

sean at e-mu / ensoniq

Re: tried again and again,failed to upgrade os

2001-09-13 by dj4tunes@yahoo.com

hi sean
i think its quite a trouble 'coz i ordered it from the states and i'm 
in asia somewhere and there's no official agent here i think.
the shop told me the xl7 should come w/ the update v1.01 os(i've just 
received it on 11sept.)but as a result,its a v1.0
do u think i can upgrade the e-prom by myself after i ask ur company 
or the shop to send me the e-prom?
or any further solution from scott,'coz he offered some suggestions 
to me on this group,tho they're not useful for my case.
thx
dj4tunes
--- In xl7@y..., Sean Wilhelmsen <seanw@e...> wrote:
> 
> 
> dj4tunes@y... wrote:
> > 
> > hi dietmar
> > thx 4 ur reply
> > do u think the cakewalk(i'm using) can accept the .dli file(the
> > xl/mp7 os file) and load them in the song?
> > can ur cubase do that?
> > thx
> > dj4tunes
> > 
> 
> No, it requires E-Loader.  I would suggest now you contact your 
local
> E-MU service center to arrange am E-PROM update.
> 
> sean at e-mu / ensoniq

Re: [xl7] Re: tried again and again,failed to upgrade os

2001-09-13 by Sean Wilhelmsen

E-mail me privately with your address and I'll send you out an E-PROM
kit. I believe you'll be able to update it yourself. You still will want
to get your E-Loader working since 1.01 will not be our last OS upgrade
for the Xl-7.

sean at e-mu / ensoniq

dj4tunes@... wrote:
> 
> hi sean
> i think its quite a trouble 'coz i ordered it from the states and i'm
> in asia somewhere and there's no official agent here i think.
> the shop told me the xl7 should come w/ the update v1.01 os(i've just
> received it on 11sept.)but as a result,its a v1.0
> do u think i can upgrade the e-prom by myself after i ask ur company
> or the shop to send me the e-prom?
> or any further solution from scott,'coz he offered some suggestions
> to me on this group,tho they're not useful for my case.
> thx
> dj4tunes
> --- In xl7@y..., Sean Wilhelmsen <seanw@e...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > dj4tunes@y... wrote:
> > >
> > > hi dietmar
> > > thx 4 ur reply
> > > do u think the cakewalk(i'm using) can accept the .dli file(the
> > > xl/mp7 os file) and load them in the song?
> > > can ur cubase do that?
> > > thx
> > > dj4tunes
> > >
> >
> > No, it requires E-Loader.  I would suggest now you contact your
> local
> > E-MU service center to arrange am E-PROM update.
> >
> > sean at e-mu / ensoniq
> 
> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.

Re: [xl7] tried again and again,failed to upgrade os

2001-09-14 by Scott Ruda

On Thursday, September 13, 2001, at 01:46 AM, dj4tunes@... wrote:

> hi scott i checked the "show midi device(or whatever...)" on e-loader,
> it showed:
> emu systems xl7-mfg id-24 mod id-44013 deviceid-0 revlevel-80764856
> (plos).
> i think it can detect i hooked the xl7,right?

This essentially looks correct (you have not typed it 'exactly' as 
reported) but it does seem like it is connected bi-directionally. Are 
you able to transfer Sequence files using E-Loader? Are you able to play 
MIDI notes by mousing around in the MIDI Tracker window? Can you see 
activity in the MIDI Tracker window when you play the XL-7?


> i tried again,and also select the "extreme" instead of "default
> program" at the preference option.(also,i didn't select anything and
> it's set at default prog.

This only changes the Appearance (color scheme) of the application - 
just a simple 'skinning' choice. It doesn't need to be set to any 
particular value for the MIDI operation to work :-)

> after i power on the xl7(by pressing home/enter and on/off at once of
> course),the xl showed "searching for os..._ " and the e-loader
> showed "download request received" then i pressed the "download os
> file to target" soft button,and the xl7 red midi in led indicator did
> flash once(just once,less than half sec.)then i again stuck in the
> same situation(xl7 said "searching for os..._ and midi out repeatedly
> flashed" and the e-loader showed "download request received".)
> i waited over 15 mins (i think if its in proper process just need
> several seconds to a min ,right?)

After choosing to Download on E-Loader, the screen on XL-7 should change 
to 'MIDI Download' nearly instantly. If it never does that, it is not 
receiving even the first MIDI message from E-Loader correctly.

Again, please tell me what version of OS and what version of Java are 
you running. This information will be displayed in the Message Console 
(found in the Window menu). It would be best if you send me (off list) 
the entire log file.


> then exit the e-loader.
> then i power off the xl7.re-open the e-loader,the e-loader big logo
> graphics just stuck my pc,i had to do"ctrl/alt/del" to exit from it.
> is this a bug of the e-loader too?(sometimes the top left small
> rectangular menu bar just displayed half the graphic horizontally...)
> thats all i did,any suggestion?pls help.

As I stated before, these problems, although annoying, should not stop 
the MIDI aspects of E-Loader from working. Once you have a problem like 
this, it would be best to reboot your system to make sure it has a clean 
slate when starting E-Loader next. We are actively working to fix this 
problem, but meanwhile it should not be stopping you from updating the 
OS on your XL-7, which is what's most important ;-)

I'm sorry you are having these problems. E-Loader seems to be working 
fine for most users, so there is something unusual about your setup that 
we haven't yet been able to isolate. As Sean said, you can contact him 
to get a ROM update kit in the mail to you, but it would be good for 
both you and E-mu to understand why this is not working for you. If you 
don't mind to continue to troubleshoot this, we should probably take the 
rest of our work off-list. If we find a problem that is pertinent to the 
rest of the list, we can post our conclusions afterwards.

Scott

Re: tried again and again,failed to upgrade os

2001-09-14 by dj4tunes@yahoo.com

--- In xl7@y..., Scott Ruda <scottr@e...> wrote:
> On Thursday, September 13, 2001, at 01:46 AM, dj4tunes@y... wrote:
> 
> > hi scott i checked the "show midi device(or whatever...)" on e-
loader,
> > it showed:
> > emu systems xl7-mfg id-24 mod id-44013 deviceid-0 revlevel-
80764856
> > (plos).
> > i think it can detect i hooked the xl7,right?
> 
> This essentially looks correct (you have not typed it 'exactly' as 
> reported) but it does seem like it is connected bi-directionally. 
Are 
> you able to transfer Sequence files using E-Loader? Are you able to 
play 
> MIDI notes by mousing around in the MIDI Tracker window? Can you 
see 
> activity in the MIDI Tracker window when you play the XL-7?
i haven't tried these(tranx seq.or play midi via midi traker),but i 
checked again my midi interface's midi i/o to verify its 
functionality,it works.
> 
> 
> > i tried again,and also select the "extreme" instead of "default
> > program" at the preference option.(also,i didn't select anything 
and
> > it's set at default prog.
> 
> This only changes the Appearance (color scheme) of the application -
 
> just a simple 'skinning' choice. It doesn't need to be set to any 
> particular value for the MIDI operation to work :-)
> 
> > after i power on the xl7(by pressing home/enter and on/off at 
once of
> > course),the xl showed "searching for os..._ " and the e-loader
> > showed "download request received" then i pressed the "download os
> > file to target" soft button,and the xl7 red midi in led indicator 
did
> > flash once(just once,less than half sec.)then i again stuck in the
> > same situation(xl7 said "searching for os..._ and midi out 
repeatedly
> > flashed" and the e-loader showed "download request received".)
> > i waited over 15 mins (i think if its in proper process just need
> > several seconds to a min ,right?)
> 
> After choosing to Download on E-Loader, the screen on XL-7 should 
change 
> to 'MIDI Download' nearly instantly. If it never does that, it is 
not 
> receiving even the first MIDI message from E-Loader correctly.
> 
> Again, please tell me what version of OS and what version of Java 
are 
> you running. This information will be displayed in the Message 
Console 
> (found in the Window menu). It would be best if you send me (off 
list) 
> the entire log file.
well,i'll copy the log.txt to ur private email address.
> 
> 
> > then exit the e-loader.
> > then i power off the xl7.re-open the e-loader,the e-loader big 
logo
> > graphics just stuck my pc,i had to do"ctrl/alt/del" to exit from 
it.
> > is this a bug of the e-loader too?(sometimes the top left small
> > rectangular menu bar just displayed half the graphic 
horizontally...)
> > thats all i did,any suggestion?pls help.
> 
> As I stated before, these problems, although annoying, should not 
stop 
> the MIDI aspects of E-Loader from working. Once you have a problem 
like 
> this, it would be best to reboot your system to make sure it has a 
clean 
> slate when starting E-Loader next. We are actively working to fix 
this 
> problem, but meanwhile it should not be stopping you from updating 
the 
> OS on your XL-7, which is what's most important ;-)
> 
> I'm sorry you are having these problems. E-Loader seems to be 
working 
> fine for most users, so there is something unusual about your setup 
that 
> we haven't yet been able to isolate. As Sean said, you can contact 
him 
> to get a ROM update kit in the mail to you, but it would be good 
for 
> both you and E-mu to understand why this is not working for you. If 
you 
> don't mind to continue to troubleshoot this, we should probably 
take the 
> rest of our work off-list. If we find a problem that is pertinent 
to the 
> rest of the list, we can post our conclusions afterwards.
i'd like to get the update e-prom and also like to try to fix it b4 
the e-prom arrive me here.
thanks
> 
> Scott

Re: tried again and again,failed to upgrade os

2001-09-14 by dj4tunes@yahoo.com

sean
ok,i'll send my postal address to ur private email address.
and pls send it along w/ an installation guide.
do u think when will it arrive my place?
does the u.s. airports back to the normal working condition?
thanks
--- In xl7@y..., Sean Wilhelmsen <seanw@e...> wrote:
> E-mail me privately with your address and I'll send you out an E-
PROM
> kit. I believe you'll be able to update it yourself. You still will 
want
> to get your E-Loader working since 1.01 will not be our last OS 
upgrade
> for the Xl-7.
> 
> sean at e-mu / ensoniq
> 
> dj4tunes@y... wrote:
> > 
> > hi sean
> > i think its quite a trouble 'coz i ordered it from the states and 
i'm
> > in asia somewhere and there's no official agent here i think.
> > the shop told me the xl7 should come w/ the update v1.01 os(i've 
just
> > received it on 11sept.)but as a result,its a v1.0
> > do u think i can upgrade the e-prom by myself after i ask ur 
company
> > or the shop to send me the e-prom?
> > or any further solution from scott,'coz he offered some 
suggestions
> > to me on this group,tho they're not useful for my case.
> > thx
> > dj4tunes
> > --- In xl7@y..., Sean Wilhelmsen <seanw@e...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > dj4tunes@y... wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hi dietmar
> > > > thx 4 ur reply
> > > > do u think the cakewalk(i'm using) can accept the .dli file
(the
> > > > xl/mp7 os file) and load them in the song?
> > > > can ur cubase do that?
> > > > thx
> > > > dj4tunes
> > > >
> > >
> > > No, it requires E-Loader.  I would suggest now you contact your
> > local
> > > E-MU service center to arrange am E-PROM update.
> > >
> > > sean at e-mu / ensoniq
> > 
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > xl7-unsubscribe@y...
> > 
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of 
Service.