thank you guys for your answer,
i will start getting more closer to micron and to program it directly,..
seem to complicated, even imposible.
see you later
steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:
Nice explanation of CCs/NPRNs, Aaron.
I haven't seen the micron's midi specs, but let's assume by dialing
up the right NRPN micron patch editing can be done withe the XL-7's
knobs.
A year or so ago, I did a simple 4 x 4 monitor (16 channel midi data
display) using SynthEdit. I used it simply to monitor data flow on 16
channels simultaneously as I routed data to external gear.
Using the same technique, (again, assuming the NPRN method works to
edit micron parameters), someone might be able to build a SynthEdit
[or other software] module to monitor two knobs setting up the
MSB/LSB values. This would take out the guesswork, though it would
require either a table or a fantastic memory to know which values
affect which parameter.
Another option (using the embedded sysex technique) might be to
create a bank of sequences to set up the values--one sequence for
each parameter. If the sequences are named after each parameter,
someone could simply dial up patterns with embedded sysex that set
the knobs as needed.
In theory, both methods should work. Unfortunately, without a micron,
I cannot test them. Perhaps over Xmas break I will test this with
some old Roland gear that responds to a handful of NPRNs.
--Steve
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote:
>
> Not really. Since NRPNs are just regular CC messages, you
theoretically could assign three knobs to do it, but you really
wouldn't want to.
>
>
> For a quick tutorial on NRPNs, envision them like this: A NRPN is
three different controller messages, two to specify what parameter
(kinda like your house address), and one to actually change the
value. You have to send "Bn 63 xx Bn 62 yy Bn 06 zz" where n is the
channel, xx and yy are the two parameter numbers, and zz is the
value. Note those are in hex. Decimal would be 99 and 98 for 63 &
62.
>
>
> Bn = cc message
> 63 (99 decimal) = NRPN parameter select MSB
> 62 (98 decimal) = NRPN parameter select LSB
> 06 = Data entry
>
>
> You'd have to set one knob up to control 99, one to control 98, and
one to control 06. You'd have to pick the right parameter with the
first two knobs, then use the data knob to control the value.
>
>
> In essence? Impossible. Sorry!
>
>
> -Aaron
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Dacian Victor <dacian_victor@...>
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 1:07:49 AM
> Subject: [xl7] Can use XL-7 NRPN messages?
>
>
>
> Can use XL-7 NRPN messages????
> thanks
>
> Dacian Victor <dacian_victor@...> wrote:
> ok.. i see, i set them in this mode
> is transmiting some CC(but just 0, 10, 11 ... the rest seem
empty??),
> also is transmiting only for one channel, the channel on which the
> notes are playing ..
> do you know from where i can get a complete list of the CC?
> thank's.. hope to succed//:)
>
>
> Greg Waltzer <egwaltzer@...> wrote:
> You don't need to use the realtime controllers A, B etc. Those are
for
> use within the XL7 patches.
> From the "controllers" menu, go to programmable knobs.
> Set the "CTRL" field to be the midi CC you want to transmit.
> Set the "Ch" to be the channel that the micron is receiving on.
> And on the right side of the display, set to "ext" or "both".
> Do the above for each knob you want to transmit.
>
> Dacian Victor wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > Thank's Greg, for the very quick answer.
> > Yes the knobs output midi is turned on, and also the midi change
is
> on.
> > Did you succed to transmit knob messges?
> > I'm not sure for what or how i use "Ctrl:??" from Controller>>
> > Programmable knobs >>
> > and for what or how i use Realtime Controller A: .. B: ..
> >
> > My micron said: "Receive failed. Please try again."
> > But the notes are playing!!!
> >
> > What should i do???
> > thank's again
> >
> >
> >
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