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2007-10-26 by semj_1
my xl7 is in the mail. i'm already thinking about what my next purchases should be. i've heard the drum rom is good. probably also planet or mophatt (one of those) would be necessary i reckon i need OPINIONS ps. i make ambient techno with hip hop beats ala boards of canada
2007-10-26 by arglebargleuk
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "semj_1" <trunkey22@...> wrote: > > my xl7 is in the mail. i'm already thinking about what my next > purchases should be. i've heard the drum rom is good. probably also > planet or mophatt (one of those) would be necessary i reckon > > i need OPINIONS The internet's a good place for those :) I found the drum one a little too plain for the kind of drums I use although very clean and realistic. Probably good for rock stuff. My ultimate ROM is the Planet Earth which is full of cooky percussion, lacking only a decent set of tablas to make it the complete world pepercussion set. The mophatt is surprisingly good too. My final ROM was the ROb Papen Techno one which I found full of useable basses and dedecent 808/909 material. YMMV but there are some great ROMs out there if you can find 'em. > ps. i make ambient techno with hip hop beats ala boards of canada Sounds groovy! Paul
2007-10-26 by Aaron Eppolito
Any of the later ones are pretty good. Drum = great acoustic kits, very well sampled, not too much space devoted to electronica (though have fun with the synth!) Vintage = awesome sampled vintage stuff, you know you want that CP-70 and the gigantic Taurus pedal in your next tune World = probably one of my favorites, though seemingly one of the more rare, awesome sounds that will set your music apart from the 1,000 other 808 kits As far as earlier ROMs, they're probably more suited to your genre. The MP-7 ROM, as mentioned, does have lots of funky/quirky stuff. The P2500 ROM provides some quality bread 'n' butter sounds to fill in when you need a real piano, strings or brass pad, etc. There's the holy grail piano ROM too, if you can find it. Best sounding 16MB piano ever. The perfect piano (on the ZR ROM) gives it a run for its money and provides another set of BnB sounds - in fact, I'd prefer that to the P2500 ROM. The two Papen ROMs are good too, pretty vanilla, but more sounds are always good. Hell, even the P/123 ROM has some good stuff. Then there's the two ORCH ROMs and the Siedlaczek ROM for orchestral sounds which are great, but don't really match up to a dedicated orchestral soft-synth. I mean, there's only so many instruments you can fit into 32MB per ROM. Remember too, that this box is a *SYNTH*, not just a ROMpler. Learn the in and outs of the synth engine and you'll be well rewarded with new sounds. If you approach the box like a Roland ROMpler (i.e. just play the presets cause there's not much else you can do) you'll be missing much of the XL-7's power. The ROM data and factory presets are only the base. You could make a whole bank of presets using nothing but a saw wave and have amazing presets. Hmm, maybe I should try that sometime... Finally, congratulations on your new purchase! -Aaron ----- Original Message ---- From: arglebargleuk <paul@...> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 1:08:52 AM Subject: [xl7] Re: best expansion roms??? --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "semj_1" <trunkey22@...> wrote: > > my xl7 is in the mail. i'm already thinking about what my next > purchases should be. i've heard the drum rom is good. probably also > planet or mophatt (one of those) would be necessary i reckon > > i need OPINIONS The internet's a good place for those :) I found the drum one a little too plain for the kind of drums I use although very clean and realistic. Probably good for rock stuff. My ultimate ROM is the Planet Earth which is full of cooky percussion, lacking only a decent set of tablas to make it the complete world pepercussion set. The mophatt is surprisingly good too. My final ROM was the ROb Papen Techno one which I found full of useable basses and dedecent 808/909 material. YMMV but there are some great ROMs out there if you can find 'em. > ps. i make ambient techno with hip hop beats ala boards of canada Sounds groovy! Paul __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2007-10-26 by semj_1
where can i hear samples of all the roms? vintage synth has some but it's kind of a roundabout way. if i could hear directly what each rom sounds like i could get an idea what i'm dealing with. --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote: > > Any of the later ones are pretty good. > > > Drum = great acoustic kits, very well sampled, not too much space devoted to electronica (though have fun with the synth!) > Vintage = awesome sampled vintage stuff, you know you want that CP-70 and the gigantic Taurus pedal in your next tune > World = probably one of my favorites, though seemingly one of the more rare, awesome sounds that will set your music apart from the 1,000 other 808 kits > > > As far as earlier ROMs, they're probably more suited to your genre. The MP-7 ROM, as mentioned, does have lots of funky/quirky stuff. The P2500 ROM provides some quality bread 'n' butter sounds to fill in when you need a real piano, strings or brass pad, etc. > > > There's the holy grail piano ROM too, if you can find it. Best sounding 16MB piano ever. The perfect piano (on the ZR ROM) gives it a run for its money and provides another set of BnB sounds - in fact, I'd prefer that to the P2500 ROM. > > > The two Papen ROMs are good too, pretty vanilla, but more sounds are always good. > > > Hell, even the P/123 ROM has some good stuff. > > > Then there's the two ORCH ROMs and the Siedlaczek ROM for orchestral sounds which are great, but don't really match up to a dedicated orchestral soft-synth. I mean, there's only so many instruments you can fit into 32MB per ROM. > > > Remember too, that this box is a *SYNTH*, not just a ROMpler. Learn the in and outs of the synth engine and you'll be well rewarded with new sounds. If you approach the box like a Roland ROMpler (i.e. just play the presets cause there's not much else you can do) you'll be missing much of the XL-7's power. The ROM data and factory presets are only the base. You could make a whole bank of presets using nothing but a saw wave and have amazing presets. Hmm, maybe I should try that sometime... > > > Finally, congratulations on your new purchase! > -Aaron > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: arglebargleuk <paul@...> > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 1:08:52 AM > Subject: [xl7] Re: best expansion roms??? > > --- In xl7@...m, "semj_1" <trunkey22@> wrote: > > > > my xl7 is in the mail. i'm already thinking about what my next > > purchases should be. i've heard the drum rom is good. probably also > > planet or mophatt (one of those) would be necessary i reckon > > > > i need OPINIONS > > The internet's a good place for those :) > I found the drum one a little too plain for the kind of drums I use > although very clean and realistic. Probably good for rock stuff. My > ultimate ROM is the Planet Earth which is full of cooky percussion, > lacking only a decent set of tablas to make it the complete world > pepercussion set. The mophatt is surprisingly good too. My final ROM > was the ROb Papen Techno one which I found full of useable basses and > dedecent 808/909 material. > YMMV but there are some great ROMs out there if you can find 'em. > > > > ps. i make ambient techno with hip hop beats ala boards of canada > > Sounds groovy! > > Paul > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2007-10-27 by alaskahighway
> ps. i make ambient techno with hip hop beats ala boards of canada i was very impressed with the PX7 (the protean drum chip) and the 2 rob papen ROMs - beat garden & the techno contruction set chips - once i'd gotten used to the basic rom sounds and started tweaking. lots of powerful sounds, with the ability to also be very subtle with layers and, of course, the machine's hands-on tweakability. unfortunately i've had to put the combo up for sale to pay for my new apartment's rent (damned divorce!) but WILL be getting the combo again as soon as possible. i only have the tecno rom left, currently on ebay (200165540710). as i've said, i'm forced to sell the combo but WILL be buying it again once i get established. i really like them & are highly recommended. btw i write synth-based darkwave, 'gothic' dance & generally aggressive stuff, but also lighter film stuff. total thumbs up from me!! }:-) moose @ amongtheweeds
2007-10-27 by semj_1
i'll keep that suggestion in mind.. right now i'm leaning towards roms with good drums... the pure phatt being one of them because it has basses as well and maybe the protozoa, but it's a commitment because that's all it does. DRUMS. --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "alaskahighway" <midizoo@...> wrote: > > > > ps. i make ambient techno with hip hop beats ala boards of canada > > i was very impressed with the PX7 (the protean drum chip) and the 2 > rob papen ROMs - beat garden & the techno contruction set chips - once > i'd gotten used to the basic rom sounds and started tweaking. lots of > powerful sounds, with the ability to also be very subtle with layers > and, of course, the machine's hands-on tweakability. > > unfortunately i've had to put the combo up for sale to pay for my new > apartment's rent (damned divorce!) but WILL be getting the combo again > as soon as possible. i only have the tecno rom left, currently on > ebay (200165540710). > > as i've said, i'm forced to sell the combo but WILL be buying it again > once i get established. i really like them & are highly recommended. > > btw i write synth-based darkwave, 'gothic' dance & generally > aggressive stuff, but also lighter film stuff. > > total thumbs up from me!! > > }:-) > moose @ amongtheweeds >
2007-10-31 by paolovalladolid
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "semj_1" <trunkey22@...> wrote: > > my xl7 is in the mail. i'm already thinking about what my next > purchases should be. i've heard the drum rom is good. probably also > planet or mophatt (one of those) would be necessary i reckon > > i need OPINIONS > > ps. i make ambient techno with hip hop beats ala boards of canada Just starting to get into BoC myself. Great stuff! The ROMS in my XL7: Xtreme Lead 2.0 - The XL7's default ROM. Nice selection of synth waves of the trance/techno variety. Aeon as I recall is a huge fan of combining these with the ones in the Vintage Collection ROM - as he says, think of it as combining VCO-based analog synths with DC0-based and outright digital synths. World Expedition - Highly sought after. I'm very lucky to get one at $200, people say this ROM goes for a lot more used. The main attraction for most user is the ethnic drum samples, and there are plenty. The gong sounds are great too. Vintage Collection - My favorite all-purpose ROM. Very good electric piano, organ, and analog synth samples. Some folks like the basses and drums too. Protean Drums (the PX7 ROM) - Pretty much as others have stated.