Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I sent the XL-7 back since I wanted it "repaired". The XL-7 was 
hanging several times per week. The problem occurs at any time, when 
I press the start button, when I change pattern etc...

They sent me back a completley new XL-7. Same problem. I upgraded the 
OS to the latest version yesterday. Same problem.

I wonder if the XL-7 is like this...

//Nifflas

Yeah, I've been getting a lot of lock ups too the last couple of weeks, 
which is a bummer.  Total lockups, notes still sounding (MIDI panic 
function won't even work), all the leds come on, needs to be power cycled 
in order to work again :(

It was weird as for awhile there I had no problems at all with it, then 
all of a sudden it started happening more and more frequently.  I think 
that the XX-7's sequencer doesn't like to sync with EXT MIDI clock, all of 
my crashes happen when I'm either using the Micro Sync, or Cubase as the 
master.  By itself the XL is fine for me.  To test this, I connected it to 
my girlfriend's K2600XS and tried getting it to lock by randomly and 
quickly hitting stop, start, rec, stuff like that.  Sure enough I got it 
to lock two more times this way, while on it's own nothing happened. 
Weird, it might just be coincidence too, but it does seem to happen more 
frequenctly while synced...

Aaron, is there a way to reset the OS, without losing the User Presets and 
Patterns?  Sorry for the comparison, but on the mc505 you could reset the 
OS by powering on while holding shift, then scrolling until it said Reset 
System.  This was great as a monthly reset seemed to make that box run 
smoother, give you less lock ups.  Just curious.  I'd still like a run 
down of all the functions that become available when you power on while 
holding the cursors. :)

rEalm






I sent the XL-7 back since I wanted it "repaired". The XL-7 was 
hanging several times per week. The problem occurs at any time, when 
I press the start button, when I change pattern etc...

They sent me back a completley new XL-7. Same problem. I upgraded the 
OS to the latest version yesterday. Same problem.

I wonder if the XL-7 is like this...

This XL-7 is completley new. I got it two days ago (they tried to 
repair my old one but broke it totally, so they sent a new one). What 
I hate is the total lockups - a sequencer should NOT do this, you 
know what it feels like when you play live and this happends?

I'm going to play live with this thing on Saturday, and I'm afraid it 
will lockup while I change pattern in the middle of performing the 
song.

Not to mention the new bugs that wasn't in OS 1.01 - you probably 
know what I'm talking about, I'm unmuting and muting the patterns in 
real-time and changing them while performing the song. In OS 1.01 the 
leds at least always showed if the track was enabled or not. But the 
new OS has problems with this if you unmute / mute a lot while 
changing patterns. I mean, you can never be sure the leds really 
tells you the truth.

I think I have good reason to be dissapointed with the XL-7, it 
should never have been released, at least not yet. Or the EMU 
homepage should have said "Well, the machine has awesome features and 
this and that" (everything that the XL-7 page says now), "but it does 
some random lockups and you'll have to reboot it, but don't worry, 
this will only happend a few times per day"

//Nifflas

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Yeah, I've been getting a lot of lock ups too the last couple of 
weeks, 
> which is a bummer.  Total lockups, notes still sounding (MIDI panic 
> function won't even work), all the leds come on, needs to be power 
cycled 
> in order to work again :(
> 
> It was weird as for awhile there I had no problems at all with it, 
then 
> all of a sudden it started happening more and more frequently.  I 
think 
> that the XX-7's sequencer doesn't like to sync with EXT MIDI clock, 
all of 
> my crashes happen when I'm either using the Micro Sync, or Cubase 
as the 
> master.  By itself the XL is fine for me.  To test this, I 
connected it to 
> my girlfriend's K2600XS and tried getting it to lock by randomly 
and 
> quickly hitting stop, start, rec, stuff like that.  Sure enough I 
got it 
> to lock two more times this way, while on it's own nothing 
happened. 
> Weird, it might just be coincidence too, but it does seem to happen 
more 
> frequenctly while synced...
> 
> Aaron, is there a way to reset the OS, without losing the User 
Presets and 
> Patterns?  Sorry for the comparison, but on the mc505 you could 
reset the 
> OS by powering on while holding shift, then scrolling until it said 
Reset 
> System.  This was great as a monthly reset seemed to make that box 
run 
> smoother, give you less lock ups.  Just curious.  I'd still like a 
run 
> down of all the functions that become available when you power on 
while 
> holding the cursors. :)
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I sent the XL-7 back since I wanted it "repaired". The XL-7 was 
> hanging several times per week. The problem occurs at any time, 
when 
> I press the start button, when I change pattern etc...
> 
> They sent me back a completley new XL-7. Same problem. I upgraded 
the 

> OS to the latest version yesterday. Same problem.
> 
> I wonder if the XL-7 is like this...

you know what it feels like when you play live and this happends?

>>All too well unfortunately!  My mc505 did it a couple times, luckily the 
XL-7 is a studio lock up machine, it's behaved itself in public so far :) 
<<<

Or the EMU  homepage should have said "but it does some random lockups and 
you'll have to reboot it, but don't worry, this will only happend a few 
times per day"

>>> LOL, somehow I don't see the Emu folks doing that! <<<

rEalm

hi,

i'm about to buy the mp7 and get a bit worried after reading this. i 
want to use it as a standalone sequencer for live use... can't have 
those crashes you're talking about... 
if rEalm is right about ext. sync "causing" these crashes i'm not too 
worried, so what i like to know of nifflas; has rEalm got a point 
here or are you using the xl-7 as a stand alone device too, and still 
getting these crashes?... 



--- In xl7@y..., "nifflas" <nifflas@m...> wrote:
> This XL-7 is completley new. I got it two days ago (they tried to 
> repair my old one but broke it totally, so they sent a new one). 
What 
> I hate is the total lockups - a sequencer should NOT do this, you 
> know what it feels like when you play live and this happends?
> 
> I'm going to play live with this thing on Saturday, and I'm afraid 
it 
> will lockup while I change pattern in the middle of performing the 
> song.
> 
> Not to mention the new bugs that wasn't in OS 1.01 - you probably 
> know what I'm talking about, I'm unmuting and muting the patterns 
in 
> real-time and changing them while performing the song. In OS 1.01 
the 
> leds at least always showed if the track was enabled or not. But 
the 
> new OS has problems with this if you unmute / mute a lot while 
> changing patterns. I mean, you can never be sure the leds really 
> tells you the truth.
> 
> I think I have good reason to be dissapointed with the XL-7, it 
> should never have been released, at least not yet. Or the EMU 
> homepage should have said "Well, the machine has awesome features 
and 
> this and that" (everything that the XL-7 page says now), "but it 
does 
> some random lockups and you'll have to reboot it, but don't worry, 
> this will only happend a few times per day"
> 
> //Nifflas
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > Yeah, I've been getting a lot of lock ups too the last couple of 
> weeks, 
> > which is a bummer.  Total lockups, notes still sounding (MIDI 
panic 
> > function won't even work), all the leds come on, needs to be 
power 
> cycled 
> > in order to work again :(
> > 
> > It was weird as for awhile there I had no problems at all with 
it, 
> then 
> > all of a sudden it started happening more and more frequently.  I 
> think 
> > that the XX-7's sequencer doesn't like to sync with EXT MIDI 
clock, 
> all of 
> > my crashes happen when I'm either using the Micro Sync, or Cubase 
> as the 
> > master.  By itself the XL is fine for me.  To test this, I 
> connected it to 
> > my girlfriend's K2600XS and tried getting it to lock by randomly 
> and 
> > quickly hitting stop, start, rec, stuff like that.  Sure enough I 
> got it 
> > to lock two more times this way, while on it's own nothing 
> happened. 
> > Weird, it might just be coincidence too, but it does seem to 
happen 
> more 
> > frequenctly while synced...
> > 
> > Aaron, is there a way to reset the OS, without losing the User 
> Presets and 
> > Patterns?  Sorry for the comparison, but on the mc505 you could 
> reset the 
> > OS by powering on while holding shift, then scrolling until it 
said 
> Reset 
> > System.  This was great as a monthly reset seemed to make that 
box 
> run 
> > smoother, give you less lock ups.  Just curious.  I'd still like 
a 

> run 
> > down of all the functions that become available when you power on 
> while 
> > holding the cursors. :)
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I sent the XL-7 back since I wanted it "repaired". The XL-7 was 
> > hanging several times per week. The problem occurs at any time, 
> when 
> > I press the start button, when I change pattern etc...
> > 
> > They sent me back a completley new XL-7. Same problem. I upgraded 
> the 
> > OS to the latest version yesterday. Same problem.
> > 
> > I wonder if the XL-7 is like this...

--- In xl7@y..., "coscon23" <coscon@i...> wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> i'm about to buy the mp7 and get a bit worried after reading this. 
i 
> want to use it as a standalone sequencer for live use... can't have 
> those crashes you're talking about... 
> if rEalm is right about ext. sync "causing" these crashes i'm not 
too 
> worried, so what i like to know of nifflas; has rEalm got a point 
> here or are you using the xl-7 as a stand alone device too, and 
still 
> getting these crashes?... 

I think you should read more of the posts here before buying it. The 
re-channelize is weird and doesn't work as you would expect (not good 
if you want to controll external gear). The machine has a couple of 
bugs, and the sequencer doesn't always make sense. Buy it for it's 
sounds, it's great. Don't buy it for it's squencer, in my opinion 
it's strange and buggy. There's many better hardware sequencers out 
there. Perhaps you should buy yourself a nice hardware sequencer and 
the Mo Phatt sound module instead?

Not to mention that the machine crashes a few times per day (I don't 
use any sync, I use it on it's own, still it crashes). Not fun at 
all. In fact extremly disturbing.

I think you should have a look at the "Are you dissapointed with the 
xx-7" poll.

//Nifflas

> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., "nifflas" <nifflas@m...> wrote:
> > This XL-7 is completley new. I got it two days ago (they tried to 
> > repair my old one but broke it totally, so they sent a new one). 
> What 
> > I hate is the total lockups - a sequencer should NOT do this, you 
> > know what it feels like when you play live and this happends?
> > 
> > I'm going to play live with this thing on Saturday, and I'm 
afraid 
> it 
> > will lockup while I change pattern in the middle of performing 
the 
> > song.
> > 
> > Not to mention the new bugs that wasn't in OS 1.01 - you probably 
> > know what I'm talking about, I'm unmuting and muting the patterns 
> in 
> > real-time and changing them while performing the song. In OS 1.01 
> the 
> > leds at least always showed if the track was enabled or not. But 
> the 
> > new OS has problems with this if you unmute / mute a lot while 
> > changing patterns. I mean, you can never be sure the leds really 
> > tells you the truth.
> > 
> > I think I have good reason to be dissapointed with the XL-7, it 
> > should never have been released, at least not yet. Or the EMU 
> > homepage should have said "Well, the machine has awesome features 
> and 
> > this and that" (everything that the XL-7 page says now), "but it 
> does 
> > some random lockups and you'll have to reboot it, but don't 
worry, 
> > this will only happend a few times per day"
> > 
> > //Nifflas
> > 
> > --- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > > Yeah, I've been getting a lot of lock ups too the last couple 
of 
> > weeks, 
> > > which is a bummer.  Total lockups, notes still sounding (MIDI 
> panic 
> > > function won't even work), all the leds come on, needs to be 
> power 
> > cycled 
> > > in order to work again :(
> > > 
> > > It was weird as for awhile there I had no problems at all with 
> it, 
> > then 
> > > all of a sudden it started happening more and more frequently.  
I 
> > think 
> > > that the XX-7's sequencer doesn't like to sync with EXT MIDI 
> clock, 
> > all of 
> > > my crashes happen when I'm either using the Micro Sync, or 
Cubase 
> > as the 
> > > master.  By itself the XL is fine for me.  To test this, I 
> > connected it to 
> > > my girlfriend's K2600XS and tried getting it to lock by 
randomly 
> > and 
> > > quickly hitting stop, start, rec, stuff like that.  Sure enough 
I 
> > got it 
> > > to lock two more times this way, while on it's own nothing 
> > happened. 
> > > Weird, it might just be coincidence too, but it does seem to 
> happen 
> > more 
> > > frequenctly while synced...
> > > 
> > > Aaron, is there a way to reset the OS, without losing the User 
> > Presets and 
> > > Patterns?  Sorry for the comparison, but on the mc505 you could 
> > reset the 
> > > OS by powering on while holding shift, then scrolling until it 
> said 
> > Reset 
> > > System.  This was great as a monthly reset seemed to make that 
> box 
> > run 
> > > smoother, give you less lock ups.  Just curious.  I'd still 
like 
> a 
> > run 
> > > down of all the functions that become available when you power 
on 
> > while 
> > > holding the cursors. :)
> > > 
> > > rEalm
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I sent the XL-7 back since I wanted it "repaired". The XL-7 was 
> > > hanging several times per week. The problem occurs at any time, 
> > when 
> > > I press the start button, when I change pattern etc...
> > > 
> > > They sent me back a completley new XL-7. Same problem. I 
upgraded 

> > the 
> > > OS to the latest version yesterday. Same problem.
> > > 
> > > I wonder if the XL-7 is like this...

> 
> I think you should read more of the posts here before buying it. 
The 
> re-channelize is weird and doesn't work as you would expect (not 
good 
> if you want to controll external gear). The machine has a couple of 
> bugs, and the sequencer doesn't always make sense. Buy it for it's 
> sounds, it's great. Don't buy it for it's squencer, in my opinion 
> it's strange and buggy. There's many better hardware sequencers out 
> there. Perhaps you should buy yourself a nice hardware sequencer 
and 
> the Mo Phatt sound module instead?
> 
> Not to mention that the machine crashes a few times per day (I 
don't 
> use any sync, I use it on it's own, still it crashes). Not fun at 
> all. In fact extremly disturbing.
> 
> I think you should have a look at the "Are you dissapointed with 
the 
> xx-7" poll.
> 
> //Nifflas


i have been reading the posts since a couple of weeks (i got addicted 
without even owning the machine yet!).. heard the sounds and am def. 
gonna buy one for the sounds alone... i need 6 outs and love the 16 
pots for editing.. turbo-phatt + qy700 (the only hardware seq. i 
think will do for me) is way more expensive... i can always go back 
to my atari + cubase set up for on stage, but would rather not.

btw, i found out you can't read polls unless you vote, so being the 
honest fellow i am, i can't bring myself to vote for something i 
can't judge.
peace,

peter.

Hello there.  I use mine as a stand alone sequencer.  It has crashed 
on me a few times but usaly when doing complicated stuff eg. 
wrighting a pattern and then going in and editing presets one after 
another and all wile it is playing.  It has never crashed on me when 
laying down a track for recording or anything like that.

There is still a couple of things that piss me off each time I use it 
and i have no idea if the first one is being addresed in the next 
os.  The first one being sompthing that has been going on since the 
begining of this box and that is when swithing patterns there is 
still a glitch when i press the HOME/ENTER button to "activate" the 
next pattern.  This has been left WAY TOO LONG in my opinion.  In my 
openion this one fix alone is worth its own OS update. Like not 
waiting 6 months and for the third os update.  Ok enuf bitching.  

The other thing that gets my goat is the still lacking USB port.  I 
know that they are working on it and I can only try and emagine how 
hard it is to work with windows code but it would be soooooo nice to 
have it working.  I know for alot of people it will work for the next 
os but i am now using XP and it will be a long wait for me.  I dont 
want to have to buy another midi card just to be able to back up my 
work.


Peace

Mike


--- In xl7@y..., "coscon23" <coscon@i...> wrote:
> 
> hi,
> 
> i'm about to buy the mp7 and get a bit worried after reading this. 
i 
> want to use it as a standalone sequencer for live use... can't have 
> those crashes you're talking about... 
> if rEalm is right about ext. sync "causing" these crashes i'm not 
too 
> worried, so what i like to know of nifflas; has rEalm got a point 
> here or are you using the xl-7 as a stand alone device too, and 
still 
> getting these crashes?...

What is the Command Centers ID in a sysex packet?  It's not the device ID, and
this document doesn't list all of the various hardware ID's for EMU products.
The Audity ID is OFh.  Is this the same for the command station?

Andre

Scratch that I just used MidiHack, it's OFh.  Are all the EMU products using
this param?

-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Lewis [mailto:andrel@...]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:07 AM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Sysex Question


What is the Command Centers ID in a sysex packet?  It's not the device ID, and
this document doesn't list all of the various hardware ID's for EMU products.
The Audity ID is OFh.  Is this the same for the command station?

Andre




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Ok I swear last part, Why is the device ID byte 7Fh (127) for device ID, when it
reads 000 on the Command stations Sysex Device ID???

Andre

-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Lewis [mailto:andrel@...]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:15 AM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [xl7] Sysex Question


Scratch that I just used MidiHack, it's OFh.  Are all the EMU products using
this param?

-----Original Message-----
From: Andre Lewis [mailto:andrel@...]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 1:07 AM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Sysex Question


What is the Command Centers ID in a sysex packet?  It's not the device ID, and
this document doesn't list all of the various hardware ID's for EMU products.
The Audity ID is OFh.  Is this the same for the command station?

Andre




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6 of 16 people was dissaponted with it. Quite much in my opinion.

//Nifflas

--- In xl7@y..., "coscon23" <coscon@i...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > I think you should read more of the posts here before buying it. 
> The 
> > re-channelize is weird and doesn't work as you would expect (not 
> good 
> > if you want to controll external gear). The machine has a couple 
of 
> > bugs, and the sequencer doesn't always make sense. Buy it for 
it's 
> > sounds, it's great. Don't buy it for it's squencer, in my opinion 
> > it's strange and buggy. There's many better hardware sequencers 
out 
> > there. Perhaps you should buy yourself a nice hardware sequencer 
> and 
> > the Mo Phatt sound module instead?
> > 
> > Not to mention that the machine crashes a few times per day (I 
> don't 
> > use any sync, I use it on it's own, still it crashes). Not fun at 
> > all. In fact extremly disturbing.
> > 
> > I think you should have a look at the "Are you dissapointed with 
> the 
> > xx-7" poll.
> > 
> > //Nifflas
> 
> 
> i have been reading the posts since a couple of weeks (i got 
addicted 
> without even owning the machine yet!).. heard the sounds and am 
def. 

> gonna buy one for the sounds alone... i need 6 outs and love the 16 
> pots for editing.. turbo-phatt + qy700 (the only hardware seq. i 
> think will do for me) is way more expensive... i can always go back 
> to my atari + cubase set up for on stage, but would rather not.
> 
> btw, i found out you can't read polls unless you vote, so being the 
> honest fellow i am, i can't bring myself to vote for something i 
> can't judge.
> peace,
> 
> peter.

--- In xl7@y..., "nifflas" <nifflas@m...> wrote:
> 6 of 16 people was dissaponted with it. Quite much in my opinion.

This is not reliable as a general opinion. It´s a hint may be. A few 
weeks ago the result was even worse if I remember right. On one hand: 
Quite a few were disappointed and returned their box before this poll 
was on (check the search engines). You don´t find many private 
reviews about the XX-7, which is another hint.  On the other hand: 
Lets wait for the new OS (damn, they postponed it again if I I´m not 
mistaken, middle of march!)and vote again! I am expecting a big 
improvement after that. And then lets write some fair reviews about 
it at harmony-central, sonicstate and so on. I think the XX-7 
deserves it!

Heinrich
> 
> //Nifflas
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., "coscon23" <coscon@i...> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > I think you should read more of the posts here before buying 
it. 
> > The 
> > > re-channelize is weird and doesn't work as you would expect 
(not 
> > good 
> > > if you want to controll external gear). The machine has a 
couple 
> of 
> > > bugs, and the sequencer doesn't always make sense. Buy it for 
> it's 
> > > sounds, it's great. Don't buy it for it's squencer, in my 
opinion 
> > > it's strange and buggy. There's many better hardware sequencers 
> out 
> > > there. Perhaps you should buy yourself a nice hardware 
sequencer 
> > and 
> > > the Mo Phatt sound module instead?
> > > 
> > > Not to mention that the machine crashes a few times per day (I 
> > don't 
> > > use any sync, I use it on it's own, still it crashes). Not fun 
at 
> > > all. In fact extremly disturbing.
> > > 
> > > I think you should have a look at the "Are you dissapointed 
with 
> > the 
> > > xx-7" poll.
> > > 
> > > //Nifflas
> > 
> > 
> > i have been reading the posts since a couple of weeks (i got 
> addicted 
> > without even owning the machine yet!).. heard the sounds and am 
> def. 
> > gonna buy one for the sounds alone... i need 6 outs and love the 
16 
> > pots for editing.. turbo-phatt + qy700 (the only hardware seq. i 
> > think will do for me) is way more expensive... i can always go 
back 
> > to my atari + cubase set up for on stage, but would rather not.
> > 
> > btw, i found out you can't read polls unless you vote, so being 
the 

> > honest fellow i am, i can't bring myself to vote for something i 
> > can't judge.
> > peace,
> > 
> > peter.

>Hello there.  I use mine as a stand alone sequencer.  It has crashed
>on me a few times but usaly when doing complicated stuff eg.
>wrighting a pattern and then going in and editing presets one after
>another and all wile it is playing.  It has never crashed on me when
>laying down a track for recording or anything like that.

Yes, me too. I've crashed it a few times, but only while editing.

What I >have< had happen has been the sequencer choking on 32 notes. A
steady stream of these, and the track on/off notes turn to sludge. The knobs
stay responsive, which denotes some


>The first one being sompthing that has been going on since the
>begining of this box and that is when swithing patterns there is
>still a glitch when i press the HOME/ENTER button to "activate" the
>next pattern.  This has been left WAY TOO LONG in my opinion.  In my
>openion this one fix alone is worth its own OS update. Like not
>waiting 6 months and for the third os update.  Ok enuf bitching.

I don't think we're going to see this go away. It's just a hiccup.

>The other thing that gets my goat is the still lacking USB port.  I
>know that they are working on it and I can only try and emagine how
>hard it is to work with windows code but it would be soooooo nice to
>have it working.  I know for alot of people it will work for the next
>os but i am now using XP and it will be a long wait for me.  I dont
>want to have to buy another midi card just to be able to back up my
>work.

You could solve that for under $20. I'd much rather they improved the
sequencer, though I am sure they are working on both :>

Jonathan

mikexl7 wrote:
> 
> Hello there.  I use mine as a stand alone sequencer.  It has crashed
> on me a few times but usaly when doing complicated stuff eg.
> wrighting a pattern and then going in and editing presets one after
> another and all wile it is playing.  It has never crashed on me when
> laying down a track for recording or anything like that.
> 
> There is still a couple of things that piss me off each time I use it
> and i have no idea if the first one is being addresed in the next
> os.  The first one being sompthing that has been going on since the
> begining of this box and that is when swithing patterns there is
> still a glitch when i press the HOME/ENTER button to "activate" the
> next pattern.  This has been left WAY TOO LONG in my opinion.  In my
> openion this one fix alone is worth its own OS update. Like not
> waiting 6 months and for the third os update.  Ok enuf bitching.


1.18 should have fixed this issue.
> 
> The other thing that gets my goat is the still lacking USB port.  I
> know that they are working on it and I can only try and emagine how
> hard it is to work with windows code but it would be soooooo nice to
> have it working.  I know for alot of people it will work for the next
> os but i am now using XP and it will be a long wait for me.  I dont
> want to have to buy another midi card just to be able to back up my
> work.

XP used with USB will be supported. E-Loader 1.1 is almost complete. You
must have 1.18 to use USB with your PC once its released.

sean at e-mu / ensoniq

0x7F (7Fh) is the universal designator byte.  That means "apply this sysex to anyone
listening" as opposed to the 0x00 - 0x7E selection for Device ID which targets only
those machines that match the ID.

Which sysex message are you trying to send/receive?

-Aaron

Andre Lewis wrote:

> Ok I swear last part, Why is the device ID byte 7Fh (127) for device ID, when it
> reads 000 on the Command stations Sysex Device ID???

>XP used with USB will be supported. E-Loader 1.1 is almost complete. You
>must have 1.18 to use USB with your PC once its released.
>

wohoo!!


Question - will 1.17 users need to update to 1.18? Would it be recomended?

Thanks,

Jonathan

No, but it'd be recommended anyway.  1.18 already has the occasional sequencer
improvement over 1.17.

-Aaron

Jonathan El-Bizri wrote:

> >You must have 1.18 to use USB with your PC once its released.
>
> Question - will 1.17 users need to update to 1.18? Would it be recomended?

I'm going to set up the Kenton Control Freak to make custom Arp patterns, and
general sound editing tools as well.
This is a note from the Kenton ts wondering if this was still true for the
COmmand Stations:

Note that in Proteus 2000 B, the layer volumes and pan sliders send out a
selection message and then the parameter change message - the consequence of
this is that if you move one of these sliders and return to a different Freak
program to edit something else, you will in fact be editing the layer that was
last selected.

Andre

-----Original Message-----
From: Aaron Eppolito [mailto:aarone+xl7@...]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 9:47 AM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xl7] Sysex Question


0x7F (7Fh) is the universal designator byte.  That means "apply this sysex to
anyone
listening" as opposed to the 0x00 - 0x7E selection for Device ID which targets
only
those machines that match the ID.

Which sysex message are you trying to send/receive?

-Aaron

Andre Lewis wrote:

> Ok I swear last part, Why is the device ID byte 7Fh (127) for device ID, when
it
> reads 000 on the Command stations Sysex Device ID???



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Ok I've added a bunch of stuff, but I'm sure there's more wishes that should go
on the wish list.  Have a look and see if there is anything that's been missed
and if so add em! I remember seeing a few posted to the list but I think it'd be
great if they were added to the Feature request database on Yahoo:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/database?method=reportRows&tbl=2

Remember try and fill out everything.  If you can't post to Yahoo groups, email
me and I'll add anything you think should be added.

Andre

>Ok I've added a bunch of stuff, but I'm sure there's more wishes that
>should go
>on the wish list.  Have a look and see if there is anything that's been missed
>and if so add em! I remember seeing a few posted to the list but I think
>it'd be
>great if they were added to the Feature request database on Yahoo:
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/database?method=reportRows&tbl=2
>
>Remember try and fill out everything.  If you can't post to Yahoo groups,
>email
>me and I'll add anything you think should be added.
>
>Andre
>
>

As I said, I don't do stuff that requires a "Yahoo ID."  So maybe somebody
might want to insert my request for a hardware adapter and OS support that
will allow more than 4 cards of sounds.  I imagine Emu wouldn't mind an
opportunity to sell more cards.

(I had a similar thing in my Apple IIc, back in the mid-80s.  It was
developed as a "closed" system, but sure enough, somebody thought of a way
to add things into it.)
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>Remember try and fill out everything.  If you can't post to Yahoo groups,
>email
>me and I'll add anything you think should be added.
>

Oh, and a patch editor/librarian within E-Loader is another wish.  It'd be
a logical place for it.
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I'll add it in for you.  It's a reasonable request considering the number of
cards available.  They could also make a rack expander using the USB
interface???

-----Original Message-----
From: just john [mailto:justjohn@...]
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2002 2:46 PM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xl7] Add to the wish list


>Ok I've added a bunch of stuff, but I'm sure there's more wishes that
>should go
>on the wish list.  Have a look and see if there is anything that's been missed
>and if so add em! I remember seeing a few posted to the list but I think
>it'd be
>great if they were added to the Feature request database on Yahoo:
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/database?method=reportRows&tbl=2
>
>Remember try and fill out everything.  If you can't post to Yahoo groups,
>email
>me and I'll add anything you think should be added.
>
>Andre
>
>

As I said, I don't do stuff that requires a "Yahoo ID."  So maybe somebody
might want to insert my request for a hardware adapter and OS support that
will allow more than 4 cards of sounds.  I imagine Emu wouldn't mind an
opportunity to sell more cards.

(I had a similar thing in my Apple IIc, back in the mid-80s.  It was
developed as a "closed" system, but sure enough, somebody thought of a way
to add things into it.)
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>I'll add it in for you.  It's a reasonable request considering the
number of

>cards available.  They could also make a rack expander using the USB

>interface???


Could be, tho I was thinking of something like:



4 Original slots

|

v

+===

+===

+===

+===<<RIBBON CABLE>+===

.                 +===

.                 +===

.                 +===

.                 +===

.                  ^

.                  |

Add-ons, plugged into last original slot.



I think there's enough room inside the box for such a thing, perhaps
securely anchored to one or more of the screws that hold the bottom on.
 We don't want stuff shaking loose.


(An hour ago, I ordered the card with the "Perfect Piano"/GM banks, so
I'll be full until a slot expander happens.)

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on 2/22/02 3:12 PM, just john at justjohn@... wrote:

>> I'll add it in for you.  It's a reasonable request considering the number of
>> cards available.  They could also make a rack expander using the USB
>> interface??? 
> 
> Could be, tho I was thinking of something like:
[...]
> I think there's enough room inside the box for such a thing, perhaps securely
> anchored to one or more of the screws that hold the bottom on.  We don't want
> stuff shaking loose.

Sorry to stifle any dreams here, but before you start wire-wrapping any
boards or anything like that, you should know that the system will simply
not support more than 4 sound cards no matter what you try to kludge up.
There are a number of reasons for this, mostly related to the limits of the
synthesizer hardware, plus the software will not allow it. Sorry...

Scott

--- In xl7@y..., Sean Wilhelmsen <seanw@e...> wrote:
> 
> 
> mikexl7 wrote:
> > 
> > Hello there.  I use mine as a stand alone sequencer.  It has 
crashed
> > on me a few times but usaly when doing complicated stuff eg.
> > wrighting a pattern and then going in and editing presets one 
after
> > another and all wile it is playing.  It has never crashed on me 
when
> > laying down a track for recording or anything like that.
> > 
> > There is still a couple of things that piss me off each time I 
use it
> > and i have no idea if the first one is being addresed in the next
> > os.  The first one being sompthing that has been going on since 
the
> > begining of this box and that is when swithing patterns there is
> > still a glitch when i press the HOME/ENTER button to "activate" 
the
> > next pattern.  This has been left WAY TOO LONG in my opinion.  In 
my
> > openion this one fix alone is worth its own OS update. Like not
> > waiting 6 months and for the third os update.  Ok enuf bitching.
> 
> 
> 1.18 should have fixed this issue.

I would be a very happy man!  I hope this problem goes away for good.

> > The other thing that gets my goat is the still lacking USB port.  
I
> > know that they are working on it and I can only try and emagine 
how
> > hard it is to work with windows code but it would be soooooo nice 
to
> > have it working.  I know for alot of people it will work for the 
next
> > os but i am now using XP and it will be a long wait for me.  I 
dont
> > want to have to buy another midi card just to be able to back up 
my
> > work.
> 
> XP used with USB will be supported. E-Loader 1.1 is almost 
complete. You must have 1.18 to use USB with your PC once its 
released.
> 

Oh man that would be GRAT!!
> sean at e-mu / ensoniq

Thank you sean.

Mike G.

>on 2/22/02 3:12 PM, just john at justjohn@... wrote:
>
>>> I'll add it in for you.  It's a reasonable request considering the
>>>number of
>>> cards available.  They could also make a rack expander using the USB
>>> interface???
>>
>> Could be, tho I was thinking of something like:
>[...]
>> I think there's enough room inside the box for such a thing, perhaps
>>securely
>> anchored to one or more of the screws that hold the bottom on.  We don't
>>want
>> stuff shaking loose.
>
>Sorry to stifle any dreams here, but before you start wire-wrapping any
>boards or anything like that, you should know that the system will simply
>not support more than 4 sound cards no matter what you try to kludge up.
>There are a number of reasons for this, mostly related to the limits of the
>synthesizer hardware, plus the software will not allow it. Sorry...
>
>Scott
>

So the choices are:

1) Figure I've purchased my quota of Emu products already.

2) Create a RAM card that emulates a ROM card, and put that into the last
ROM card slot, with ribbon cable and open slots as pictured.  Yeah, this
would mean a semi-manual loading of the RAM before using it, and one
couldn't use two additional ROM cards at the same time unless the RAM
loader were really clever in its loading -- but that would mean patches and
such would change number every time you loaded ...
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Actually the realistic choice is simply to get another Emu rack (preferably one
going cheap) that has the next board your after, and fill it with the boards
your missing whilst playing it over Midi.  USB sync/Audio chaining would be
IDEAL.

-----Original Message-----
From: just john [mailto:justjohn@...]
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2002 7:48 AM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xl7] Add to the wish list


>on 2/22/02 3:12 PM, just john at justjohn@... wrote:
>
>>> I'll add it in for you.  It's a reasonable request considering the
>>>number of
>>> cards available.  They could also make a rack expander using the USB
>>> interface???
>>
>> Could be, tho I was thinking of something like:
>[...]
>> I think there's enough room inside the box for such a thing, perhaps
>>securely
>> anchored to one or more of the screws that hold the bottom on.  We don't
>>want
>> stuff shaking loose.
>
>Sorry to stifle any dreams here, but before you start wire-wrapping any
>boards or anything like that, you should know that the system will simply
>not support more than 4 sound cards no matter what you try to kludge up.
>There are a number of reasons for this, mostly related to the limits of the
>synthesizer hardware, plus the software will not allow it. Sorry...
>
>Scott
>

So the choices are:

1) Figure I've purchased my quota of Emu products already.

2) Create a RAM card that emulates a ROM card, and put that into the last
ROM card slot, with ribbon cable and open slots as pictured.  Yeah, this
would mean a semi-manual loading of the RAM before using it, and one
couldn't use two additional ROM cards at the same time unless the RAM
loader were really clever in its loading -- but that would mean patches and
such would change number every time you loaded ...
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Instead of wishing for hardware changes (more slots and stuff? This 
thing has more expandability than most synths I´ve seen!) I would be 
a happy owner if they concentrate on updating the software to behave 
more userfriendly and leave bugs behind.

Heinrich


--- In xl7@y..., "Andre Lewis" <andrel@s...> wrote:
> Ok I've added a bunch of stuff, but I'm sure there's more wishes 
that should go
> on the wish list.  Have a look and see if there is anything that's 
been missed
> and if so add em! I remember seeing a few posted to the list but I 
think it'd be
> great if they were added to the Feature request database on Yahoo:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/database?method=reportRows&tbl=2
> 
> Remember try and fill out everything.  If you can't post to Yahoo 
groups, email

> me and I'll add anything you think should be added.
> 
> Andre