Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

hi fellow
just received the xl7,tried to upgrade the new o.s. v1.01 many 
times.but failed.
i can goto the the step of:download request received.
and the midi out indicator of xl7 repeatedly flash,then i pressed 
the "download os file to target" soft button on my pc screen. i 
waited so long but the midi in indicator of xl7 never flashed.and the 
e-loader software still remained and stuck in the status:download 
request received.and the xl7 screen still displayed:searching for 
o.s...._
then i quitted the e-loader,and tried to do the process again,but a 
dialog box showed the following message when i re-open the e-loader:
"this application has unexpectedly quit.invocation of this java 
application has caused an invocation target exception.this 
application will now exit.(lax)"
can anyone help me?
thanks in advance.

hi fellow
just received the xl7,tried to upgrade the new o.s. v1.01 many 
times.but failed.
i can goto the the step of:download request received.
and the midi out indicator of xl7 repeatedly flash,then i pressed 
the "download os file to target" soft button on my pc screen. i 
waited so long but the midi in indicator of xl7 never flashed.and the 
e-loader software still remained and stuck in the status:download 
request received.and the xl7 screen still displayed:searching for 
o.s...._
then i quitted the e-loader,and tried to do the process again,but a 
dialog box showed the following message when i re-open the e-loader:
"this application has unexpectedly quit.invocation of this java 
application has caused an invocation target exception.this 
application will now exit.(lax)"
can anyone help me?
thanks in advance.

On Wednesday, September 12, 2001, at 12:13 PM, dj4tunes@... wrote:

> hi fellow
> just received the xl7,tried to upgrade the new o.s. v1.01 many
> times.but failed.
> i can goto the the step of:download request received.
> and the midi out indicator of xl7 repeatedly flash,then i pressed
> the "download os file to target" soft button on my pc screen. i
> waited so long but the midi in indicator of xl7 never flashed.and the
> e-loader software still remained and stuck in the status:download
> request received.and the xl7 screen still displayed:searching for
> o.s...._
>

It sounds like you don't have a good MIDI connection from the Computer 
to the Device. All of your information indicates that data is getting 
from the Device to the Computer, but not vice versa.

Are you sure you have connected both your Input and Output cable MIDI 
cables correctly and have selected the correct MIDI Input and Output 
ports in the E-Loader Device Configuration dialog?

If you choose 'Show Available MIDI Devices' in the MIDI menu, does the 
XL-7 show up? That test requires bidirectional MIDI communication so if 
things don't work in that test, they won't work for the OS Download.


> then i quitted the e-loader,and tried to do the process again,but a
> dialog box showed the following message when i re-open the e-loader:
> "this application has unexpectedly quit.invocation of this java
> application has caused an invocation target exception.this
> application will now exit.(lax)"
> can anyone help me?
> thanks in advance.

What king of computer, what version of OS and what Java version are you 
running? My guess is that you are running Windows ME, which is where we 
have seen the most problems.

Scott

> 
> What king of computer, what version of OS and what Java version are you 
> running? My guess is that you are running Windows ME, which is where we 
> have seen the most problems.
> 
> Scott

win2k does pretty well.
j.

On Wednesday, September 12, 2001, at 01:55 PM, j.burger wrote:

>>
>> What king of computer, what version of OS and what Java version are you
>> running? My guess is that you are running Windows ME, which is where we
>> have seen the most problems.
>>
>> Scott
>
> win2k does pretty well.
> j.

Win2K and MacOS 9.1 are the most tested and therefore the most reliable 
of the platforms since those are what it was developed on :-). A lot of 
our Beta sites use Win98 so it has been shown to be fairly reliable 
there too. I'm working on resolving the issues with WinME, but 
begrudgingly, since no one wants around here to put it on their 
machine - neither developers nor testers :-(

Scott

--- In xl7@y..., Scott Ruda <scottr@e...> wrote:
> 
> On Wednesday, September 12, 2001, at 12:13 PM, dj4tunes@y... wrote:
> 
> > hi fellow
> > just received the xl7,tried to upgrade the new o.s. v1.01 many
> > times.but failed.
> > i can goto the the step of:download request received.
> > and the midi out indicator of xl7 repeatedly flash,then i pressed
> > the "download os file to target" soft button on my pc screen. i
> > waited so long but the midi in indicator of xl7 never flashed.and 
the
> > e-loader software still remained and stuck in the status:download
> > request received.and the xl7 screen still displayed:searching for
> > o.s...._
> >
> 
> It sounds like you don't have a good MIDI connection from the 
Computer 
> to the Device. All of your information indicates that data is 
getting 
> from the Device to the Computer, but not vice versa.
hi scoot
i'm using a gravis midi adapter which has 1xin/1xout,i wondered the 
midi cables then i cahnged them a lot but still couldn't work.
i make music thru cakewalk/gravis midi box/other synths/samplers w/o 
a problem.my pc running win98.
> 
> Are you sure you have connected both your Input and Output cable 
MIDI 
> cables correctly and have selected the correct MIDI Input and 
Output 
> ports in the E-Loader Device Configuration dialog?
yes,i'm sure i connected them correctly,and the e-loader showed 
device config. as mpu401 midi i/o matched w/ the gravis,thats mpu401 
compatible.but,do i need to adjust the default midi device no.?the 
default is 0 at e-loader.
> 
> If you choose 'Show Available MIDI Devices' in the MIDI menu, does 
the 
> XL-7 show up?
do u mean i need to check this on the e-loader?it seemed no xl-7 
there....let me check it again.and how about that dialog box about 
java i got?is my problems dealing w/ java...?
thanks
 That test requires bidirectional MIDI communication so if 
> things don't work in that test, they won't work for the OS Download.
> 
> 
> > then i quitted the e-loader,and tried to do the process again,but 
a
> > dialog box showed the following message when i re-open the e-
loader:
> > "this application has unexpectedly quit.invocation of this java
> > application has caused an invocation target exception.this
> > application will now exit.(lax)"
> > can anyone help me?
> > thanks in advance.
> 
> What king of computer, what version of OS and what Java version are 
you 
> running? My guess is that you are running Windows ME, which is 
where we 
> have seen the most problems.
> 
> Scott

On Thursday, September 13, 2001, at 12:09 AM, dj4tunes@... wrote:

> do i need to adjust the default midi device no.?the
> default is 0 at e-loader.

The Device ID is not used for OS Download, only for Sequence transfers.


> and how about that dialog box about
> java i got?is my problems dealing w/ java...?

The problems we have seen when quitting the application are independent 
of the way the application works while it is running. In other words, 
the application seems to work fine _until_ you try to exit, at which 
time it can sometimes hang. That doesn't seem related to your problem.


>> If you choose 'Show Available MIDI Devices' in the MIDI menu, does
>> the XL-7 show up?
> do u mean i need to check this on the e-loader?it seemed no xl-7
> there....let me check it again.

If you can't get the 'Show Available MIDI Devices' window to display 
your XL-7, then you definitely have some kind of problem (but you knew 
that already ;-) Once we get your device to show up in this window, the 
OS Download can then work.

What would help me troubleshoot this is if you could run the 
application, open the Message Console (found in the Window menu) and 
save the contents of that window to a file (using Save in the File 
menu). Then send me that log.txt file (***off list***). I may be able to 
see something in that log that is the clue to your problems.

Scott