Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I just ran across mention of a set of 64 XL patches done by Sean
Wilhelmsen called "Fat Lead" (and another set of 20-some bonus patches
from the UK). They're both obviously long gone from the graveyard that
is now the Emu site. Does anyone know if these were incorporated into
either the XL-7 patch set or the XLv2 ROM patches? And if not, where I
can find them now?

Not that I really need more patches, but...I'm curious.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "robotchas" <robotchas@...> wrote:
>
> I just ran across mention of a set of 64 XL patches done by Sean
> Wilhelmsen called "Fat Lead" (and another set of 20-some bonus patches
> from the UK). They're both obviously long gone from the graveyard that
> is now the Emu site. Does anyone know if these were incorporated into
> either the XL-7 patch set or the XLv2 ROM patches? And if not, where I
> can find them now?
> 
> Not that I really need more patches, but...I'm curious.

dont know here, ive downloaded every bank ive every come across..
how long ago was this?
all ive got that sounds close is.

XLv2 presets.zip (5 banks of presets in sysex format)

Maybe the files you remember are on a web page some where out there?

It was in a couple message board posts (not here) from two or three
years ago, maybe more. Just ran across them at random, was curious.
One of them mentioned two presets ("E P I C" and "Matrix") from the UK
batch, and there are two presets with the same names in the XL7 ROM,
so my guess is that the UK and Sean Wilhelmsen banks were included (at
least in part) when they revamped the XL1 presets for the XL7.

I should look at the extra XL7 bank, and some of the old XL1 presets.
It's not a big deal, it's easy enough to program new sounds from
scratch. I just like hearing what other people have come up with.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzini@...> wrote:

>
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "robotchas" <robotchas@> wrote:
> >
> > I just ran across mention of a set of 64 XL patches done by Sean
> > Wilhelmsen called "Fat Lead" (and another set of 20-some bonus patches
> > from the UK). They're both obviously long gone from the graveyard that
> > is now the Emu site. Does anyone know if these were incorporated into
> > either the XL-7 patch set or the XLv2 ROM patches? And if not, where I
> > can find them now?
> > 
> > Not that I really need more patches, but...I'm curious.
> 
> dont know here, ive downloaded every bank ive every come across..
> how long ago was this?
> all ive got that sounds close is.
> 
> XLv2 presets.zip (5 banks of presets in sysex format)
> 
> Maybe the files you remember are on a web page some where out there?
>

On Jan 6, 2007, at 3:22 PM, robotchas wrote:

> It was in a couple message board posts (not here) from two or three
> years ago, maybe more. Just ran across them at random, was curious.
> One of them mentioned two presets ("E P I C" and "Matrix") from the UK
> batch, and there are two presets with the same names in the XL7 ROM,
> so my guess is that the UK and Sean Wilhelmsen banks were included (at
> least in part) when they revamped the XL1 presets for the XL7.
>
> I should look at the extra XL7 bank, and some of the old XL1 presets.
> It's not a big deal, it's easy enough to program new sounds from
> scratch. I just like hearing what other people have come up with.

There are approximately 256 patches in the Xtreme Lead 1 that are not  
replicated in the XL-7's four ROM banks. I spent an afternoon one day  
going through and figuring that out and collecting those patches into  
two XL-7 banks. They're in the Command Station Data folder in the  
Files section of this group, under the title "XL-1 Unique Patches for  
XL-7".
---
Mibrilane





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Ah, cool! Thanks!


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mibrilane <mibrilane@...> wrote:

>
> 
> On Jan 6, 2007, at 3:22 PM, robotchas wrote:
> 
> > It was in a couple message board posts (not here) from two or three
> > years ago, maybe more. Just ran across them at random, was curious.
> > One of them mentioned two presets ("E P I C" and "Matrix") from the UK
> > batch, and there are two presets with the same names in the XL7 ROM,
> > so my guess is that the UK and Sean Wilhelmsen banks were included (at
> > least in part) when they revamped the XL1 presets for the XL7.
> >
> > I should look at the extra XL7 bank, and some of the old XL1 presets.
> > It's not a big deal, it's easy enough to program new sounds from
> > scratch. I just like hearing what other people have come up with.
> 
> There are approximately 256 patches in the Xtreme Lead 1 that are not  
> replicated in the XL-7's four ROM banks. I spent an afternoon one day  
> going through and figuring that out and collecting those patches into  
> two XL-7 banks. They're in the Command Station Data folder in the  
> Files section of this group, under the title "XL-1 Unique Patches for  
> XL-7".
> ---
> Mibrilane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Do the presets still point to the instrument numbers from the XL1, or
did you re-map them to the XL-7 instruments?  According to the
manuals, the XL-7 is missing all the instruments between Cymbal 14 and
Misc 27.  Is that just a typo in the manual, or are those instruments
really missing?

The ROM I have in my PX-7 is identical to the MK-6 ROM, which has all
the instruments that are missing from the XL-7 list, but it doesn't
seem to have the presets in your XL1 file either. (got it used, with
the extra ROM installed, just earlier this week... still in sonic
shock :) so I might just have missed something)


AL

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mibrilane <mibrilane@...> wrote:

>
> 
> On Jan 6, 2007, at 3:22 PM, robotchas wrote:
> 
> > It was in a couple message board posts (not here) from two or three
> > years ago, maybe more. Just ran across them at random, was curious.
> > One of them mentioned two presets ("E P I C" and "Matrix") from the UK
> > batch, and there are two presets with the same names in the XL7 ROM,
> > so my guess is that the UK and Sean Wilhelmsen banks were included (at
> > least in part) when they revamped the XL1 presets for the XL7.
> >
> > I should look at the extra XL7 bank, and some of the old XL1 presets.
> > It's not a big deal, it's easy enough to program new sounds from
> > scratch. I just like hearing what other people have come up with.
> 
> There are approximately 256 patches in the Xtreme Lead 1 that are not  
> replicated in the XL-7's four ROM banks. I spent an afternoon one day  
> going through and figuring that out and collecting those patches into  
> two XL-7 banks. They're in the Command Station Data folder in the  
> Files section of this group, under the title "XL-1 Unique Patches for  
> XL-7".
> ---
> Mibrilane
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "vermis_rex" <vermis_rex@...> wrote:
>
> Do the presets still point to the instrument numbers from the XL1, or
> did you re-map them to the XL-7 instruments?  According to the
> manuals, the XL-7 is missing all the instruments between Cymbal 14 and
> Misc 27.  Is that just a typo in the manual, or are those instruments
> really missing?

I started with the "XL1 Patches for XL-7" patches (4 banks) which are the Xtreme Lead 
patches re-mapped for the XL-7. I then went through each group and eliminated the 
duplicates from the Xtreme Lead patches. So, every patch in the XL1 Unique bank should 
work fine - they work fine for me. :D

> The ROM I have in my PX-7 is identical to the MK-6 ROM, which has all
> the instruments that are missing from the XL-7 list, but it doesn't
> seem to have the presets in your XL1 file either. (got it used, with
> the extra ROM installed, just earlier this week... still in sonic
> shock :) so I might just have missed something)

As far as I've seen, the MK-6 is a variant of the Pure Phatt sound set, not the Xtreme Lead 
sound set. I've got an MP-7 ROM, which is yet another Pure Phatt variant with different 
presets than the Mo'Phatt module.

Sorry, bit of a typo (or minor brain death)... I meant XK-6, not MK-6...

As it turns out, it's the V-Lead v2 ROM I have, and it's not entirely
the same as the XK-6 ROM.  While the presets and instruments are the
same,   my ROM seems to have different Riffs, and they're in a
different order.  Which was the cause of my problem with the XL-1
presets...

I couldn't get the BTS presets to work properly, until I checked the
preset "Audition Riff".  Most of the BTS presets from the XL-1 unique
set had the Riffs mapped to other non-BTS Riffs.  It was while sorting
that out that I discovered this ROM's Riffs list is different from the
other ones.  The presets were calling the Riff # from the XL-1 table,
but getting a different Riff on the XLv2 table.

Interestingly, the sticker on the ROM identifies it as XROM1 (the XK-6
ROM), but it comes up on the display as just XROM, and as mentioned
the RIFFs list is different.  The ROM ID=14.

I'll post the Riff-order list in the files section.  And when I finish
tweeking the presets, I'll post the versions translated for XLv2 ROM.

AL

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mibrilane" <mibrilane@...> wrote:
>
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "vermis_rex" <vermis_rex@> wrote:
> >
> > Do the presets still point to the instrument numbers from the XL1, or
> > did you re-map them to the XL-7 instruments?  According to the
> > manuals, the XL-7 is missing all the instruments between Cymbal 14 and
> > Misc 27.  Is that just a typo in the manual, or are those instruments
> > really missing?
> 
> I started with the "XL1 Patches for XL-7" patches (4 banks) which
are the Xtreme Lead 
> patches re-mapped for the XL-7. I then went through each group and
eliminated the 
> duplicates from the Xtreme Lead patches. So, every patch in the XL1
Unique bank should 
> work fine - they work fine for me. :D
> 
> > The ROM I have in my PX-7 is identical to the MK-6 ROM, which has all
> > the instruments that are missing from the XL-7 list, but it doesn't
> > seem to have the presets in your XL1 file either. (got it used, with
> > the extra ROM installed, just earlier this week... still in sonic
> > shock :) so I might just have missed something)
> 
> As far as I've seen, the MK-6 is a variant of the Pure Phatt sound
set, not the Xtreme Lead 
> sound set. I've got an MP-7 ROM, which is yet another Pure Phatt
variant with different 
> presets than the Mo'Phatt module.
>

Isn't ROM ID 14 the standard XL-7 ROM?

> Interestingly, the sticker on the ROM identifies it as XROM1 (the XK-
6

> ROM), but it comes up on the display as just XROM, and as mentioned
> the RIFFs list is different.  The ROM ID=14.
>