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arp behaviour

2006-08-12 by Zsolt Szabó

Hello,

I have an XL7 v2.0.
Using the arp I don't understand something:

Arp settings:
Status                        on
Mode                         up
Note value                1/16
Gate                          2 %
Extension count       1
Extension interval    12
Sync                          quantized
Pre-delay                  off
Duration                    1/2 d
Post-delay                off
Recycle                     off
Latch                         on

It would be very comfortable to me to have this arp sound latched
while I'm adjusting other parameters during a live act. However,
each odd play attempt is OK, arp plays and stops where it should then
each even play attempt is only a short (like glided) sound.
What I'm playing is a typical 3-note chord, nothing special. 

What am I missing here ?



Thanks,

    Zsolt

RE : [xl7] arp behaviour

2006-08-12 by BEAUFILS Adrien

Hello, i suppose your arp stop because you select only 1/2d of duration. So despite the fact that the latch mode is activitated the arp will play only this time. Check the recycle command on the "on" position so your arp will play the 1/2d mesure and recycle every 1/2d mesure.
   
  Hope that help.

Zsolt Szabó <Zsolt.Szabo@...> a écrit :
          Hello,

I have an XL7 v2.0.
Using the arp I don't understand something:

Arp settings:
Status on
Mode up
Note value 1/16
Gate 2 %
Extension count 1
Extension interval 12
Sync quantized
Pre-delay off
Duration 1/2 d
Post-delay off
Recycle off
Latch on

It would be very comfortable to me to have this arp sound latched
while I'm adjusting other parameters during a live act. However,
each odd play attempt is OK, arp plays and stops where it should then
each even play attempt is only a short (like glided) sound.
What I'm playing is a typical 3-note chord, nothing special. 

What am I missing here ?

Thanks,

Zsolt


         

 		
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Re: [xl7] arp behaviour

2006-08-12 by Zsolt Szabó

Hello,

I think you got it wrong.
I WANT the Latch function to be ON. I want to hit the keys,
let the arp do it's own thing then stop, this way allowing me to tweak
other parameters. I have only two hands and I don't want one hand
be occupied by holding the notes.

Problem is each even play attempt where no arpeggiating occurs
but only this short glided sound. Odd play attempts are OK and sound
as they should.

I'm still curious what is the problem ...
Maybe a bug ?

Regards,

    Zsolt




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "BEAUFILS Adrien" <fatalojyxvsfacial@...>
To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 5:15 PM
Subject: RE : [xl7] arp behaviour


Hello, i suppose your arp stop because you select only 1/2d of duration. So 
despite the fact that the latch mode is activitated the arp will play only 
this time. Check the recycle command on the "on" position so your arp will 
play the 1/2d mesure and recycle every 1/2d mesure.

  Hope that help.

Zsolt Szab\ufffd <Zsolt.Szabo@...> a \ufffdcrit :
          Hello,

I have an XL7 v2.0.
Using the arp I don't understand something:

Arp settings:
Status on
Mode up
Note value 1/16
Gate 2 %
Extension count 1
Extension interval 12
Sync quantized
Pre-delay off
Duration 1/2 d
Post-delay off
Recycle off
Latch on

It would be very comfortable to me to have this arp sound latched
while I'm adjusting other parameters during a live act. However,
each odd play attempt is OK, arp plays and stops where it should then
each even play attempt is only a short (like glided) sound.
What I'm playing is a typical 3-note chord, nothing special.

What am I missing here ?

Thanks,

Zsolt





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Re: [xl7] arp behaviour

2006-08-12 by Bob S.

I just stick a piece of paper between the keys to hold the key down if all else fails......

Bob
El Segundo, CA


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Zsolt Szabó 
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:43 AM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] arp behaviour


  Hello,

  I think you got it wrong.
  I WANT the Latch function to be ON. I want to hit the keys,
  let the arp do it's own thing then stop, this way allowing me to tweak
  other parameters. I have only two hands and I don't want one hand
  be occupied by holding the notes.

  Problem is each even play attempt where no arpeggiating occurs
  but only this short glided sound. Odd play attempts are OK and sound
  as they should.

  I'm still curious what is the problem ...
  Maybe a bug ?

  Regards,

  Zsolt

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "BEAUFILS Adrien" <fatalojyxvsfacial@...>
  To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 5:15 PM
  Subject: RE : [xl7] arp behaviour

  Hello, i suppose your arp stop because you select only 1/2d of duration. So 
  despite the fact that the latch mode is activitated the arp will play only 
  this time. Check the recycle command on the "on" position so your arp will 
  play the 1/2d mesure and recycle every 1/2d mesure.

  Hope that help.

  Zsolt Szabó <Zsolt.Szabo@...> a écrit :
  Hello,

  I have an XL7 v2.0.
  Using the arp I don't understand something:

  Arp settings:
  Status on
  Mode up
  Note value 1/16
  Gate 2 %
  Extension count 1
  Extension interval 12
  Sync quantized
  Pre-delay off
  Duration 1/2 d
  Post-delay off
  Recycle off
  Latch on

  It would be very comfortable to me to have this arp sound latched
  while I'm adjusting other parameters during a live act. However,
  each odd play attempt is OK, arp plays and stops where it should then
  each even play attempt is only a short (like glided) sound.
  What I'm playing is a typical 3-note chord, nothing special.

  What am I missing here ?

  Thanks,

  Zsolt

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RE : Re: [xl7] arp behaviour

2006-08-13 by BEAUFILS Adrien

I think the problem provide from the fact that your gate is only at 2 per cent so the song doesn't extand more. Try increase the gate time or the decay amp volume parameter.
   
  Bye

"Bob S." <tttsystems@...> a écrit :
          I just stick a piece of paper between the keys to hold the key down if all else fails......

Bob
El Segundo, CA

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Zsolt Szabó 
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:43 AM
Subject: Re: [xl7] arp behaviour

Hello,

I think you got it wrong.
I WANT the Latch function to be ON. I want to hit the keys,
let the arp do it's own thing then stop, this way allowing me to tweak
other parameters. I have only two hands and I don't want one hand
be occupied by holding the notes.

Problem is each even play attempt where no arpeggiating occurs
but only this short glided sound. Odd play attempts are OK and sound
as they should.

I'm still curious what is the problem ...
Maybe a bug ?

Regards,

Zsolt

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "BEAUFILS Adrien" <fatalojyxvsfacial@...>
To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 5:15 PM
Subject: RE : [xl7] arp behaviour

Hello, i suppose your arp stop because you select only 1/2d of duration. So 
despite the fact that the latch mode is activitated the arp will play only 
this time. Check the recycle command on the "on" position so your arp will 
play the 1/2d mesure and recycle every 1/2d mesure.

Hope that help.

Zsolt Szabó <Zsolt.Szabo@...> a écrit :
Hello,

I have an XL7 v2.0.
Using the arp I don't understand something:

Arp settings:
Status on
Mode up
Note value 1/16
Gate 2 %
Extension count 1
Extension interval 12
Sync quantized
Pre-delay off
Duration 1/2 d
Post-delay off
Recycle off
Latch on

It would be very comfortable to me to have this arp sound latched
while I'm adjusting other parameters during a live act. However,
each odd play attempt is OK, arp plays and stops where it should then
each even play attempt is only a short (like glided) sound.
What I'm playing is a typical 3-note chord, nothing special.

What am I missing here ?

Thanks,

Zsolt

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Re: [xl7] arp behaviour

2006-08-13 by Aaron Eppolito

What's happening is what I'd expect, though not what you want.

The first time you play the arp, it latches on (since you have it in latch mode).  Then, it stops because you have a short duration (1/2d).  However, the arp is still latched on (though silent).  The next time you play the arp, you're unlatching it, not playing it again.  The short glided stuff you hear is the notes play through.

Either turn latch off, or play the arp twice to unlatch it and relatch it.

-Aaron

Zsolt Szabó <Zsolt.Szabo@...> wrote: Hello,

I think you got it wrong.
I WANT the Latch function to be ON. I want to hit the keys,
let the arp do it's own thing then stop, this way allowing me to tweak
other parameters. I have only two hands and I don't want one hand
be occupied by holding the notes.

Problem is each even play attempt where no arpeggiating occurs
but only this short glided sound. Odd play attempts are OK and sound
as they should.

I'm still curious what is the problem ...
Maybe a bug ?

Regards,

    Zsolt




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "BEAUFILS Adrien" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 5:15 PM
Subject: RE : [xl7] arp behaviour


Hello, i suppose your arp stop because you select only 1/2d of duration. So 
despite the fact that the latch mode is activitated the arp will play only 
this time. Check the recycle command on the "on" position so your arp will 
play the 1/2d mesure and recycle every 1/2d mesure.

  Hope that help.

Zsolt Szabó  a écrit :
          Hello,

I have an XL7 v2.0.
Using the arp I don't understand something:

Arp settings:
Status on
Mode up
Note value 1/16
Gate 2 %
Extension count 1
Extension interval 12
Sync quantized
Pre-delay off
Duration 1/2 d
Post-delay off
Recycle off
Latch on

It would be very comfortable to me to have this arp sound latched
while I'm adjusting other parameters during a live act. However,
each odd play attempt is OK, arp plays and stops where it should then
each even play attempt is only a short (like glided) sound.
What I'm playing is a typical 3-note chord, nothing special.

What am I missing here ?

Thanks,

Zsolt





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Re: [xl7] arp behaviour

2006-08-14 by goddard.duncan@mtvne.com

the biggest issue I have with the arpeggiator in my XL7 is that I can't
figure out a way to map the footswitch onto the latch on/off control.
does anyone know how to do this?
duncan.


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Re: [xl7] arp behaviour

2006-08-15 by Aaron Eppolito

You shouldn't have to map anything.  Leave latch off, then just hold
the arp notes with the sustain pedal.  Lift the pedal when you want
them to release.

-Aaron

--- goddard.duncan@... wrote:

> the biggest issue I have with the arpeggiator in my XL7 is that I
can't
> figure out a way to map the footswitch onto the latch on/off control.
> does anyone know how to do this?
> duncan.

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Re: [xl7] arp behaviour

2006-08-15 by Zsolt Szabó

Hi Aaron,

so when the arp is set up to stop after a certain period (in my case 1/2d) 
it
doesn't unlatch itself ? I thought it would ...

In this case I understand what's going on.
Thanks for the explanation ...


Regards,

    Zsolt




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aaron Eppolito" <synthesis77@...>
To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2006 11:36 PM
Subject: Re: [xl7] arp behaviour


What's happening is what I'd expect, though not what you want.

The first time you play the arp, it latches on (since you have it in latch 
mode).  Then, it stops because you have a short duration (1/2d).  However, 
the arp is still latched on (though silent).  The next time you play the 
arp, you're unlatching it, not playing it again.  The short glided stuff you 
hear is the notes play through.

Either turn latch off, or play the arp twice to unlatch it and relatch it.

-Aaron

Zsolt Szab\ufffd <Zsolt.Szabo@...> wrote: Hello,

I think you got it wrong.
I WANT the Latch function to be ON. I want to hit the keys,
let the arp do it's own thing then stop, this way allowing me to tweak
other parameters. I have only two hands and I don't want one hand
be occupied by holding the notes.

Problem is each even play attempt where no arpeggiating occurs
but only this short glided sound. Odd play attempts are OK and sound
as they should.

I'm still curious what is the problem ...
Maybe a bug ?

Regards,

    Zsolt




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "BEAUFILS Adrien"
To:
Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 5:15 PM
Subject: RE : [xl7] arp behaviour


Hello, i suppose your arp stop because you select only 1/2d of duration. So
despite the fact that the latch mode is activitated the arp will play only
this time. Check the recycle command on the "on" position so your arp will
play the 1/2d mesure and recycle every 1/2d mesure.

  Hope that help.

Zsolt Szab\ufffd  a \ufffdcrit :
          Hello,

I have an XL7 v2.0.
Using the arp I don't understand something:

Arp settings:
Status on
Mode up
Note value 1/16
Gate 2 %
Extension count 1
Extension interval 12
Sync quantized
Pre-delay off
Duration 1/2 d
Post-delay off
Recycle off
Latch on

It would be very comfortable to me to have this arp sound latched
while I'm adjusting other parameters during a live act. However,
each odd play attempt is OK, arp plays and stops where it should then
each even play attempt is only a short (like glided) sound.
What I'm playing is a typical 3-note chord, nothing special.

What am I missing here ?

Thanks,

Zsolt





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RE: arp behaviour

2006-08-15 by goddard.duncan@mtvne.com

>>the biggest issue I have with the arpeggiator in my XL7 is that I can't
figure out a way to map the footswitch onto the latch on/off control. does
anyone know how to do this?<<
>>You shouldn't have to map anything. Leave latch off, then just hold the
arp notes with the sustain pedal. Lift the pedal when you want them to
release.<<

hm.... well, I will try this, but it's not exactly what I want... what I
want is to set an arp running, latch it & then switch channels on my
controller to play something else. if I use the footswitch to sustain the
notes instead of latching the arp, I "lose" the footswitch setting when I
change channels on the controller. this will likely give me stuck notes
somewhere, & if I switch back to the arp channel without the footswitch
engaged to avoid this, the arp will disappear.... see the problem? 

d. 


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