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2006-03-22 by level1pro
Need help.I a'm trying to record a data dump(Sysex)from my roland jv-1010 module to the Xl-7.I record the dump,the red midi light comes on,but the data is not there in the Xl-7.Any advice on settings maybe.
2006-03-22 by Bob S.
I might be wrong, but I have not heard of anyone recording this type of sysex data into an XL-7, that is, use it as a generic midi filer.....but guys, let me know if anyone ever has.... And how did you determine the data was not in the XL-7? Bob Corona/Riverside, CA
----- Original Message ----- From: level1pro To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:43 AM Subject: [xl7] Receive sysex dump from module Need help.I a'm trying to record a data dump(Sysex)from my roland jv-1010 module to the Xl-7.I record the dump,the red midi light comes on,but the data is not there in the Xl-7.Any advice on settings maybe. Yahoo! Groups Links [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-03-22 by level1pro
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote: > > I might be wrong, but I have not heard of anyone recording this type of sysex data into an XL-7, that is, use it as a generic midi filer.....but guys, let me know if anyone ever has.... > > And how did you determine the data was not in the XL-7? > I tried to play the data back into the module and nothing was received.Also there was no channel lit on the Xl-7 to confirm data was there.
> Bob > Corona/Riverside, CA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: level1pro > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:43 AM > Subject: [xl7] Receive sysex dump from module > > > Need help.I a'm trying to record a data dump(Sysex)from my roland > jv-1010 module to the Xl-7.I record the dump,the red midi light comes > on,but the data is not there in the Xl-7.Any advice on settings maybe. > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >
2006-03-22 by Aaron Eppolito
Alas, the XL-7 cannot record sysex. It can, however, play back sysex. That means that if you record the sysex into a software sequencer and then push the file onto the XL-7 with E-Loader, you can use the XL-7 to send out the sysex. -Aaron --- level1pro <producer1@...> wrote: > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@...> wrote: > > > > I might be wrong, but I have not heard of anyone recording this > type > of sysex data into an XL-7, that is, use it as a generic midi > filer.....but guys, let me know if anyone ever has.... > > > > And how did you determine the data was not in the XL-7? > > I tried to play the data back into the module and nothing was > received.Also there was no channel lit on the Xl-7 to confirm data > was > there. > > Bob > > Corona/Riverside, CA > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: level1pro > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:43 AM > > Subject: [xl7] Receive sysex dump from module > > > > > > Need help.I a'm trying to record a data dump(Sysex)from my roland > > jv-1010 module to the Xl-7.I record the dump,the red midi light > comes > > on,but the data is not there in the Xl-7.Any advice on settings > maybe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2006-03-22 by level1pro
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote:
> > Alas, the XL-7 cannot record sysex. It can, however, play back sysex. > That means that if you record the sysex into a software sequencer and > then push the file onto the XL-7 with E-Loader, you can use the XL-7 to > send out the sysex. > Thanks for that info. > -Aaron > > --- level1pro <producer1@...> wrote: > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@> wrote: > > > > > > I might be wrong, but I have not heard of anyone recording this > > type > > of sysex data into an XL-7, that is, use it as a generic midi > > filer.....but guys, let me know if anyone ever has.... > > > > > > And how did you determine the data was not in the XL-7? > > > I tried to play the data back into the module and nothing was > > received.Also there was no channel lit on the Xl-7 to confirm data > > was > > there. > > > Bob > > > Corona/Riverside, CA > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: level1pro > > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Wednesday, March 22, 2006 6:43 AM > > > Subject: [xl7] Receive sysex dump from module > > > > > > > > > Need help.I a'm trying to record a data dump(Sysex)from my roland > > > jv-1010 module to the Xl-7.I record the dump,the red midi light > > comes > > > on,but the data is not there in the Xl-7.Any advice on settings > > maybe. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
2006-03-23 by steve_the_composer
Aaron is (of course) right!!! Along with embedded sysex commands (see Files | E-Mu LAW), I played around with storing and playing back patch parameter sysex banks to external gear. (It was years ago, Casio CZ data if I remember correctly.) Also, you cannot edit sysex commands from the E-Mu sequencer. But the method Aaron describes (software sequencer --> e-loader --> E- Mu) does indeed work!!! --Steve --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@...> wrote:
> > Alas, the XL-7 cannot record sysex. It can, however, play back > sysex. That means that if you record the sysex into a software > sequencer and then push the file onto the XL-7 with E-Loader, you > can use the XL-7 to send out the sysex. > > -Aaron
2006-03-23 by level1pro
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> wrote:
> > Aaron is (of course) right!!! > > Along with embedded sysex commands (see Files | E-Mu LAW), I played > around with storing and playing back patch parameter sysex banks to > external gear. (It was years ago, Casio CZ data if I remember > correctly.) > > Also, you cannot edit sysex commands from the E-Mu sequencer. > > But the method Aaron describes (software sequencer --> e-loader --> E- > Mu) does indeed work!!! > Thanks for that info. > --Steve > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@> wrote: > > > > Alas, the XL-7 cannot record sysex. It can, however, play back > > sysex. That means that if you record the sysex into a software > > sequencer and then push the file onto the XL-7 with E-Loader, you > > can use the XL-7 to send out the sysex. > > > > -Aaron >
2006-03-23 by K4d4w3r
Hi again... Does anybody know what DSP is in comand stations? mayby some one has the schematics of the tations or do know where I can get them& (download?) Cadaver Cum Spiritus Corpus Non Est! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2006-03-23 by Aaron Eppolito
All the DSP is done by custom ASICs. What did you want to do with the schematics? -Aaron --- K4d4w3r <cadaverlucanti@...> wrote: > > Hi again... > Does anybody know what DSP is in comand stations? > mayby some one has the schematics of the tations or do > know where I can get them& (download?) > > Cadaver Cum Spiritus Corpus Non Est! > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2006-03-24 by K4d4w3r
So You want to say that they dont use any motorolla or analog devices, but theirs own DSP? the idea about the schematics and DSP is to deprogramm the OS and the rebuild it with new functions and so on... I have a crew of programmers who cad do that, but they need information... Cadaver Cum Spiritus Corpus Non Est! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2006-03-24 by Alwyn
im thinking your best bet would be to decode the micro's instructions, and see whats being pushed out where.. you;ll also probably need a logic analyser to check what stuff is going to the H and G chips... have a look around for info on those, as they are the chips that do the filtering and wave generation iirc... its a pretty complex reverse engineering job...
On 3/24/06, K4d4w3r <cadaverlucanti@...> wrote: > > So You want to say that they dont use any motorolla or > analog devices, but theirs own DSP? > > the idea about the schematics and DSP is to deprogramm > the OS and the rebuild it with new functions and so > on... I have a crew of programmers who cad do that, > but they need information... > > Cadaver Cum Spiritus Corpus Non Est! > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > >
2006-03-24 by Davide Massussi
whould be really interesting doing it on the ensoniq asr-x, beautiful sampler but the OS is full of bugs. it could be the one of best samplers ever with some improvement in the OS. 2006/3/24, Alwyn <zardac@...>: > > im thinking your best bet would be to decode the micro's instructions, > and see whats being pushed out where.. > you;ll also probably need a logic analyser to check what stuff is > going to the H and G chips... have a look around for info on those, as > they are the chips that do the filtering and wave generation iirc... > > its a pretty complex reverse engineering job... > > On 3/24/06, K4d4w3r <cadaverlucanti@...> wrote: > > > > So You want to say that they dont use any motorolla or > > analog devices, but theirs own DSP? > > > > the idea about the schematics and DSP is to deprogramm > > the OS and the rebuild it with new functions and so > > on... I have a crew of programmers who cad do that, > > but they need information... > > > > Cadaver Cum Spiritus Corpus Non Est! > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > > http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-03-24 by K4d4w3r
Hey! %) If you'll present me Ensoniq ASR-X i'll be in heaven $) but I dont have money to by it my self... Me and the Crew live in Byelaruss... i think you've heard where it is situated... and for example E-bay is unavailble for us... about the job... We know thats it not easy.. it's a long time job, yeas... but believe me, my frieands are very well qualified in programing , and programing DSP... $) Cadaver Cum Spiritus Corpus Non Est! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2006-03-24 by Bob S.
In addition to knowing which processor chip is used & schematics, you will need the memory map, a compiler & debugger and without source code, you will have to reverse engineer all the machine level code. I doubt the original code what written in machine language as this is not the preferred language to write code. Debugging will take you many many hours without a hardware emulator that can be used to host code and step through the code sections to ensure proper operation. Imbedded PC/DSP machines are not the same as coding PC/windows/DOS applications..... Bob Corona/Riverside, CA -----Original Message-----
>From: K4d4w3r <cadaverlucanti@...> >Sent: Mar 24, 2006 10:11 AM >To: xl7@yahoogroups.com >Subject: Re: [xl7] Question > >Hey! %) If you'll present me Ensoniq ASR-X i'll be in >heaven $) but I dont have money to by it my self... >Me and the Crew live in Byelaruss... i think you've >heard where it is situated... and for example E-bay is >unavailble for us... > >about the job... We know thats it not easy.. it's a >long time job, yeas... but believe me, my frieands are >very well qualified in programing , and programing >DSP... $) > > >Cadaver Cum Spiritus Corpus Non Est! > > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around >http://mail.yahoo.com > > > >Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2006-03-24 by K4d4w3r
we know this... al programmers are specialists in asembler machine language... if some one can help with the needed information we'll start thus project...if someone has some info help! Cadaver Cum Spiritus Corpus Non Est! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2006-03-31 by smwither2002
One would imagine Emu would be less than thrilled by someone trying to reverse-engineer their intellectual property... It's unfortunate that the Command Stations were the last hardware project for Emu and these fabulous machines weren't developed further. But I guess we're lucky to have them and to have got a version 2 out of them. --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, K4d4w3r <cadaverlucanti@...> wrote:
> > > we know this... al programmers are specialists in > asembler machine language... if some one can help with > the needed information we'll start thus project...if > someone has some info help! > > Cadaver Cum Spiritus Corpus Non Est! > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com >
2006-03-31 by K4d4w3r
Who'll tell them? %) by the way, wont you need some new features in your station? free of charge? and I dont think Emu could get us in our country... and i also dont think they'll loose anything, if we'll mod their device and will destribute the mod free... any way, they are dead as a synth making company... Cadaver Cum Spiritus Corpus Non Est! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
2006-08-15 by Shane
1. Can someone walk me through by using a midi controller for just recording the bass parts on the XL-7? I use the pads on the Command Station for Drums but I would like to use a keyboard for the bass parts, and when I do I get the wrong bass sound that I wanted, is there any thing I need to turn off in the midi section? 2. Can the Emu control my eq parameters in Sonar 5, by using the 16 knobs on the Command Station? I just get tired of turning the knobs with my mouse Music is a moral law, it gives wings to the mind, a soul to the universe flight to the imagination, a charm to sadness a life to everything, Plato, 400 B.C --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2006-08-15 by Alwyn
1) you probably need to set the XL-7 into multi-timberal mode, and then select the track you want to record. you also need to make sure your controller isn't sending patch change messages.. 2) the knobs can send CC messages, though im not sure how you'd then set up Sonar to respond to them... Cheers, [ZAR]
On 15/08/06, Shane <lvrshn@...> wrote: > 1. Can someone walk me through by using a midi controller for just recording the bass parts on the XL-7? I use the pads on the Command Station for Drums but I would like to use a keyboard for the bass parts, and when I do I get the wrong bass sound that I wanted, is there any thing I need to turn off in the midi section? > > 2. Can the Emu control my eq parameters in Sonar 5, by using the 16 knobs on the Command Station? I just get tired of turning the knobs with my mouse > > > Music is a moral law, > it gives wings to the mind, a soul to the universe > flight to the imagination, a charm to sadness > a life to everything, > Plato, 400 B.C > > --------------------------------- > Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
2006-08-17 by steve_the_composer
> On 15/08/06, Shane <lvrshn@...> wrote: > > 1. Can someone walk me through by using a midi controller for just recording the bass parts on the XL-7? I use the pads on the Command Station for Drums but I would like to use a keyboard for the bass parts, and when I do I get the wrong bass sound that I wanted, is there any thing I need to turn off in the midi section? It sounds like you successfully have the controller routed to the XL- 7. Now, make sure your controller is transmitting on the same midi channel you have the bass preset. For example, if bas.MyBass is on C03A, make sure the controller is transmitting on midi channel 3. Also, make sure rechannelize if off. (I assume you are already in multitimbral mode.) And if for some reason, your controller is sending out a program change message, you can turn RECCEIVE PROGRAM CHANGE for that channel to off. > > 2. Can the Emu control my eq parameters in Sonar 5, by using the 16 knobs on the Command Station? I just get tired of turning the knobs with my mouse In Sonar 3, I played around with Control Surfaces. I assume Sonar 5 still has them. Follow the tutorial on how to set up a control surface. Basically, this feature is designed so you can use your controller to control what Sonar does. NOTE: I am not sure if Sonar's eq is mappable via control surfaces, though. In case Sonar 5 is similar, here are the steps in Sonar 3: 1. Select Options | Control Surfaces 2. Insert a new control surface [in Sonar 3, its the button with a yellow star]. 3. In the Settings dialog, select Cakewalk Generic Surface [unless someone has already designed one for the E-MU Command Station] and the midi port where the XL-7 midi out is connected. 4. In Sonar 3, I then go to Tools and select the Cakewalk Generic Surface. [Perhaps Cakewalk put all these in one spot in later editions, so check the Cakewalk help system.] 5. A multifacted Cakewalk Generic Surface window [or counterpart] should pop up. Here's where you map your XL-7 knobs to Sonar function. (Make sure KNOBS OUTPUT MIDI is set to >>transmit<<.) NOTE: In Sonar 3, I cannot find any mappable eq parameters. You might want to check out the discussion boards at cakewalk. Let me know what you find; maybe I will save up for an upgrade. Hope this helps. --Steve
2006-08-18 by Shane
Thanks.. I will try this out tonight
steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote: > On 15/08/06, Shane <lvrshn@...> wrote:
> > 1. Can someone walk me through by using a midi controller for
just recording the bass parts on the XL-7? I use the pads on the
Command Station for Drums but I would like to use a keyboard for the
bass parts, and when I do I get the wrong bass sound that I wanted,
is there any thing I need to turn off in the midi section?
It sounds like you successfully have the controller routed to the XL-
7. Now, make sure your controller is transmitting on the same midi
channel you have the bass preset. For example, if bas.MyBass is on
C03A, make sure the controller is transmitting on midi channel 3.
Also, make sure rechannelize if off. (I assume you are already in
multitimbral mode.)
And if for some reason, your controller is sending out a program
change message, you can turn RECCEIVE PROGRAM CHANGE for that
channel to off.
> > 2. Can the Emu control my eq parameters in Sonar 5, by using
the 16 knobs on the Command Station? I just get tired of turning the
knobs with my mouse
In Sonar 3, I played around with Control Surfaces. I assume Sonar 5
still has them. Follow the tutorial on how to set up a control
surface. Basically, this feature is designed so you can use your
controller to control what Sonar does.
NOTE:
I am not sure if Sonar's eq is mappable via control surfaces, though.
In case Sonar 5 is similar, here are the steps in Sonar 3:
1. Select Options | Control Surfaces
2. Insert a new control surface [in Sonar 3, its the button with a
yellow star].
3. In the Settings dialog, select Cakewalk Generic Surface [unless
someone has already designed one for the E-MU Command Station] and
the midi port where the XL-7 midi out is connected.
4. In Sonar 3, I then go to Tools and select the Cakewalk Generic
Surface. [Perhaps Cakewalk put all these in one spot in later
editions, so check the Cakewalk help system.]
5. A multifacted Cakewalk Generic Surface window [or counterpart]
should pop up. Here's where you map your XL-7 knobs to Sonar
function. (Make sure KNOBS OUTPUT MIDI is set to >>transmit<<.)
NOTE: In Sonar 3, I cannot find any mappable eq parameters. You
might want to check out the discussion boards at cakewalk. Let me
know what you find; maybe I will save up for an upgrade.
Hope this helps.
--Steve
Music is a moral law,
it gives wings to the mind, a soul to the universe
flight to the imagination, a charm to sadness
a life to everything,
Plato, 400 B.C
---------------------------------
Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out.
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2006-08-20 by steve_the_composer
Thanks for asking the Q about controlling Sonar EQ with E-Mu knobs. I did some more research and learned how to do it. (Again, I am using Sonar 3, but I assume later versions retained this feature. 1. Enable EQ for the track (if you haven't done so already). 2. Right click on the EQ parameter. 3. Select Remote Control. 4. Select controller. 5. Twist the knob. 6. Press learn. 7. Press OK Hope this helps. --Steve --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Shane <lvrshn@...> wrote:
> > > 2. Can the Emu control my eq parameters in Sonar 5, by using > the 16 knobs on the Command Station? I just get tired of turning > the knobs with my mouse