Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

hi folks!

just got my mp7 today!  quick question:  it seems from the manual that 
one can route external audio (eg, from a korg emx) into the XX-7 
series, but it is not very clear to me yet.  is it simple?  or as 
complicated as they make it sound.  so far ive been impressed with how 
easy it is to get around on this thing

thanks!

anthony

On 1/5/06 1:53 AM, "antret" <antret@...> wrote:

> just got my mp7 today!  quick question:  it seems from the manual that
> one can route external audio (eg, from a korg emx) into the XX-7
> series, but it is not very clear to me yet.  is it simple?  or as
> complicated as they make it sound.  so far ive been impressed with how
> easy it is to get around on this thing

There are no audio inputs on the Command Stations (or any E-mu module, for
that matter).

--
Mibrilane

Try looking up messages- 13537, 13539 & 13540 in the group.  I think they may answer 
your question.

Mike

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "antret" <antret@y...> wrote:
>
> hi folks!
> 
> just got my mp7 today!  quick question:  it seems from the manual that 
> one can route external audio (eg, from a korg emx) into the XX-7 
> series, but it is not very clear to me yet.  is it simple?  or as 
> complicated as they make it sound.  so far ive been impressed with how 
> easy it is to get around on this thing
> 
> thanks!
> 
> anthony
>

Hi
You can use the sub outputs as inputs!!??? (yep it sounds crazy..)
The sub output sockets are stereo sockets, so there is a tip, a ring 
and a sleeve connection on the plug.
If you route an internal signal to one / both of the sub outs it 
appears on the tip of the plug.
Then you can then send a signal back in on the ring connection of the 
plug. This gets mixed back into the main buss outputs after the FX.
So you can either use it as an insert point to use some external FX, 
or just feed an external signal back in.
There are a couple of issues for me though using it like that..
Theres no pan on the signal coming back so you have to either do it 
it stereo or have a mono signal coming back split between the 2 sub 
inputs. You will just get the returned signal on either the left or 
right main outputs otherwise.
Theres no gain control either coming back so you have to set the 
level on the gear your feeding into the command station.
I found the inputs a bit to sensitive for my use, though there are 
work arounds..
Hope that makes sense
Gonz




--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mibrilane <mibrilane@c...> wrote:
>
> On 1/5/06 1:53 AM, "antret" <antret@y...> wrote:
> 
> > just got my mp7 today!  quick question:  it seems from the manual 
that
> > one can route external audio (eg, from a korg emx) into the XX-7
> > series, but it is not very clear to me yet.  is it simple?  or as
> > complicated as they make it sound.  so far ive been impressed 
with how
> > easy it is to get around on this thing
> 
> There are no audio inputs on the Command Stations (or any E-mu 
module, for
> that matter).
> 
> --
> Mibrilane
>

many thanks!

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <mikedancy@e...> wrote:
>
> Try looking up messages- 13537, 13539 & 13540 in the group.  I 
think they may answer 
> your question.
> 
> Mike
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "antret" <antret@y...> wrote:
> >
> > hi folks!
> > 
> > just got my mp7 today!  quick question:  it seems from the 
manual that 
> > one can route external audio (eg, from a korg emx) into the XX-7 
> > series, but it is not very clear to me yet.  is it simple?  or 
as 
> > complicated as they make it sound.  so far ive been impressed 
with how 
> > easy it is to get around on this thing
> > 
> > thanks!
> > 
> > anthony
> >
>

many thanks!

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mike" <mikedancy@e...> wrote:
>
> Try looking up messages- 13537, 13539 & 13540 in the group.  I 
think they may answer 
> your question.
> 
> Mike
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "antret" <antret@y...> wrote:
> >
> > hi folks!
> > 
> > just got my mp7 today!  quick question:  it seems from the 
manual that 
> > one can route external audio (eg, from a korg emx) into the XX-7 
> > series, but it is not very clear to me yet.  is it simple?  or 
as 
> > complicated as they make it sound.  so far ive been impressed 
with how 
> > easy it is to get around on this thing
> > 
> > thanks!
> > 
> > anthony
> >
>

many thanks!

thats how i figured it would work, but the manual confused me for a 
bit!

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzini@f...> wrote:
>
> Hi
> You can use the sub outputs as inputs!!??? (yep it sounds crazy..)
> The sub output sockets are stereo sockets, so there is a tip, a 
ring 
> and a sleeve connection on the plug.
> If you route an internal signal to one / both of the sub outs it 
> appears on the tip of the plug.
> Then you can then send a signal back in on the ring connection of 
the 
> plug. This gets mixed back into the main buss outputs after the FX.
> So you can either use it as an insert point to use some external 
FX, 
> or just feed an external signal back in.
> There are a couple of issues for me though using it like that..
> Theres no pan on the signal coming back so you have to either do 
it 
> it stereo or have a mono signal coming back split between the 2 
sub 
> inputs. You will just get the returned signal on either the left 
or 
> right main outputs otherwise.
> Theres no gain control either coming back so you have to set the 
> level on the gear your feeding into the command station.
> I found the inputs a bit to sensitive for my use, though there are 
> work arounds..
> Hope that makes sense
> Gonz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mibrilane <mibrilane@c...> wrote:
> >
> > On 1/5/06 1:53 AM, "antret" <antret@y...> wrote:
> > 
> > > just got my mp7 today!  quick question:  it seems from the 
manual 
> that
> > > one can route external audio (eg, from a korg emx) into the XX-
7
> > > series, but it is not very clear to me yet.  is it simple?  or 
as
> > > complicated as they make it sound.  so far ive been impressed 
> with how
> > > easy it is to get around on this thing
> > 
> > There are no audio inputs on the Command Stations (or any E-mu 
> module, for
> > that matter).
> > 
> > --
> > Mibrilane
> >
>

The signal routing in there does get a bit of getting used to, i found 
it confusing when i got my XL-7.
Just the way it is i guess..
The command station sense's that you've pluged in a jack as well so you 
might not see 'sub 1' or 'sub 2' in the routing menu for a few seconds.
Have fun
Gonz 


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "antret" <antret@y...> wrote:
>
> many thanks!
> 
> thats how i figured it would work, but the manual confused me for a 
> bit!

On 1/5/06 6:44 AM, "Mibrilane" <mibrilane@...> wrote:

> On 1/5/06 1:53 AM, "antret" <antret@...> wrote:
> 
>> just got my mp7 today!  quick question:  it seems from the manual that
>> one can route external audio (eg, from a korg emx) into the XX-7
>> series, but it is not very clear to me yet.  is it simple?  or as
>> complicated as they make it sound.  so far ive been impressed with how
>> easy it is to get around on this thing
> 
> There are no audio inputs on the Command Stations (or any E-mu module, for
> that matter).
> 
> --
> Mibrilane

I forgot about the sub outs having effects return ability. That's a "duh"
moment for sure.

--
Mibrilane

easily forgotten that one, wouldnt of thought most people would even 
use it like that.
Setting the levels up is a pain anyway..
Gonz
 
> I forgot about the sub outs having effects return ability. That's 
>a "duh"
> moment for sure.
> 
> --
> Mibrilane
>

im sure its not an ideal setup, but i was looking for a quick and 
dirty way to monitor some other 'grooveboxes' when im not near the 
mixer.  i havent actually tried it yet, so it may be too much 
hassle..... i'll find out soon enough!




--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzini@f...> wrote:
>
> easily forgotten that one, wouldnt of thought most people would even 
> use it like that.
> Setting the levels up is a pain anyway..
> Gonz
>  
> > I forgot about the sub outs having effects return ability. That's 
> >a "duh"
> > moment for sure.
> > 
> > --
> > Mibrilane
> >
>

just watch the levels coming back in, it might rip your head off if 
you not carefull..
I tryed it with a waldorf pulse, theres no global output volume with 
that, its all on a patch by patch basis.. i gave it up in the end as 
it was to much work to go through and edit all the sounds.
Other synths and stuff should be ok though.
Gonz
 



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "antret" <antret@y...> wrote:
>
> im sure its not an ideal setup, but i was looking for a quick and 
> dirty way to monitor some other 'grooveboxes' when im not near the 
> mixer.  i havent actually tried it yet, so it may be too much 
> hassle..... i'll find out soon enough!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "gonzinigonz" <gonzini@f...> wrote:
> >
> > easily forgotten that one, wouldnt of thought most people would 
even 
> > use it like that.
> > Setting the levels up is a pain anyway..
> > Gonz
> >  
> > > I forgot about the sub outs having effects return ability. 
That's 
> > >a "duh"
> > > moment for sure.
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Mibrilane
> > >
> >
>