Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Okay I thought I was going to insert a stop or cut off the rest of the 
bar.beat at the end of a pattern.  I went into the event edit screen 
to add a bunch of mutes (I'm still looking for a better way of 
stopping a song) when I came across C01 prog:0   m:off l:off.  Can 
someone please tell me what I use this for?  It looks cool.  I hope 
its useful.  Peace!

Brandon

Hi 
Check this post out.. same thing differant problem

message No:- 17052

its all there..
Dont think you can insert mutes into a pattern? 
Why do you need the bar to stop before the end of the bar?
cant you just create a new pattern and make sure its blank after that 
point?
Gonz


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "zerolatencyproductions" 
<zerolatencyproductions@y...> wrote:
>
> Okay I thought I was going to insert a stop or cut off the rest of 
the 
> bar.beat at the end of a pattern.  I went into the event edit 
screen 
> to add a bunch of mutes (I'm still looking for a better way of 
> stopping a song) when I came across C01 prog:0   m:off l:off.  Can 
> someone please tell me what I use this for?  It looks cool.  I hope 
> its useful.  Peace!
> 
> Brandon
>

C01 = midi channel 1
prog: 0 = change program/patch/preset to the program/patch/preset in 
slot 0
m = msb = most significant bit for bank switching
l = lsb = least significant bit for bank switching

Since msb and lsb are both off in your example, the midi event tells 
the synth to switch to preset/patch 0 in the current bank on midi 
channel 1.

Try changing prog to another number and see what happens.

Now, select a preset in one of your roms, then press audition.  Do you 
see an lsb and and msb number? If so, those numbers designate rom and 
bank number. 

If you want to insert a program change in the middle of a sequence, 
you can add it using pattern edit if you know the rom number, the bank 
number and the preset number.

Hope this makes sense.

As for ending a song, why not just press the stop button? Or why not 
assign a foot pedal to stop the sequencer?

In pattern mode, patterns continue until you stop the sequencer.  
However, in song mode, you can chain patterns together and have a STOP 
at the end of the chain. 

If you have an 8-bar pattern in the middle of your song that you want 
to use at the end and have it stop after measure 6 beat 2 (for 
example), why not just copy that pattern to another slot, change the 
length to 6 measures, and delete all the notes and events after beat 
2, and put a STOP even after it?

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "zerolatencyproductions" 
<zerolatencyproductions@y...> wrote:
>
> Okay I thought I was going to insert a stop or cut off the rest of 
the 
> bar.beat at the end of a pattern.  I went into the event edit screen 
> to add a bunch of mutes (I'm still looking for a better way of 
> stopping a song) when I came across C01 prog:0   m:off l:off.  Can 
> someone please tell me what I use this for?  It looks cool.  I hope 
> its useful.  Peace!
> 
> Brandon
>

> Dont think you can insert mutes into a pattern?
I don't think I can either.  I was going to copy a pattern to cut 
off the ends at diffrent beats.  Then I realized it'd be easier to 
insert the mutes in song mode where I want them. 

> Why do you need the bar to stop before the end of the bar?
It sounds better and it takes the end of the song somewhere.  If I 
just repeated the same bar 4 times and abruptly ended it, it sounds 
repeatative and cheap.

> cant you just create a new pattern and make sure its blank after 
that point?
Yeah, but it would be much more work. I would have switch to pattern 
mode, copy the pattern to another location, and then erase all the 
notes after the cut off point on every track. Instead, in song mode, 
I can step to the end of the song; and while in realtime record, 
mute all the tracks when the time/beat comes.  Then I can go into 
the song event edit mode, and place them exactly where I want them 
with click point precision.  

I'm fixing to look up that post you where talking about.  I gotta 
figure out how to find it real quick.

Later, Brandon

--- In xl7@...m, "gonzinigonz" <gonzini@f...> wrote:
>
> Hi 
> Check this post out.. same thing differant problem
> 
> message No:- 17052
> 
> its all there..
> Dont think you can insert mutes into a pattern? 
> Why do you need the bar to stop before the end of the bar?
> cant you just create a new pattern and make sure its blank after 
that 
> point?
> Gonz
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "zerolatencyproductions" 
> <zerolatencyproductions@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Okay I thought I was going to insert a stop or cut off the rest 
of 
> the 
> > bar.beat at the end of a pattern.  I went into the event edit 
> screen 
> > to add a bunch of mutes (I'm still looking for a better way of 
> > stopping a song) when I came across C01 prog:0   m:off l:off.  
Can 
> > someone please tell me what I use this for?  It looks cool.  I 
hope 
> > its useful.  Peace!
> > 
> > Brandon
> >
>

Thanks Steve.  That does make sense.  Now, I gotta figure out how to 
use it. Can I insert it using just the command station or do I need 
some kind of sysex editor?    

Thanks Brandon,

P.S. Here are my answers to your questions.
> As for ending a song, why not just press the stop button? Or why 
not assign a foot pedal to stop the sequencer?
I want to have everything programed into the sequencer for several 
different reasons.  Mainly, so if I'm not paying attention 
everything will progress or stop the way its supposed to.  I just  
answered another post that asked me a similar question.  See that 
reply if you want for more reasons why.

> example), why not just copy that pattern to another slot, change 
the length to 6 measures, and delete all the notes and events after 
beat 2, and put a STOP even after it?
It takes way too long. Again, see my reply to the other post.  After 
experimenting all day with the subject, I found that its easier to 
record the mutes in song mode when needed and place them in the song 
event edit menu.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> 
wrote:
>
> C01 = midi channel 1
> prog: 0 = change program/patch/preset to the program/patch/preset 
in 
> slot 0
> m = msb = most significant bit for bank switching
> l = lsb = least significant bit for bank switching
> 
> Since msb and lsb are both off in your example, the midi event 
tells 
> the synth to switch to preset/patch 0 in the current bank on midi 
> channel 1.
> 
> Try changing prog to another number and see what happens.
> 
> Now, select a preset in one of your roms, then press audition.  Do 
you 
> see an lsb and and msb number? If so, those numbers designate rom 
and 
> bank number. 
> 
> If you want to insert a program change in the middle of a 
sequence, 
> you can add it using pattern edit if you know the rom number, the 
bank 
> number and the preset number.
> 
> Hope this makes sense.
> 
> As for ending a song, why not just press the stop button? Or why 
not 
> assign a foot pedal to stop the sequencer?
> 
> In pattern mode, patterns continue until you stop the sequencer.  
> However, in song mode, you can chain patterns together and have a 
STOP 
> at the end of the chain. 
> 
> If you have an 8-bar pattern in the middle of your song that you 
want 
> to use at the end and have it stop after measure 6 beat 2 (for 
> example), why not just copy that pattern to another slot, change 
the 
> length to 6 measures, and delete all the notes and events after 
beat 
> 2, and put a STOP even after it?
> 
> --Steve
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "zerolatencyproductions" 
> <zerolatencyproductions@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Okay I thought I was going to insert a stop or cut off the rest 
of 
> the 
> > bar.beat at the end of a pattern.  I went into the event edit 
screen 
> > to add a bunch of mutes (I'm still looking for a better way of 
> > stopping a song) when I came across C01 prog:0   m:off l:off.  
Can 
> > someone please tell me what I use this for?  It looks cool.  I 
hope 
> > its useful.  Peace!
> > 
> > Brandon
> >
>

> Thanks Steve.  That does make sense.  Now, I gotta figure out how
> to use it. Can I insert it using just the command station or do I
> need some kind of sysex editor?    

No need for sysex on this one. The edit pattern menu system has two 
editors: (1) edit notes and (2) edit events. In the event editor, you 
can press repeat to insert a new event. One of the event types is the 
program change event.

> After 
> experimenting all day with the subject, I found that its easier to 
> record the mutes in song mode when needed and place them in the
> song event edit menu.

Sounds like a good solution, too.

--Steve