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How to stop a song at beat so and so.

How to stop a song at beat so and so.

2005-10-23 by zerolatencyproductions

I've got a song that I want to end, for example, on Bar 113 beat 4 
click 96.  Is there a way to insert a stop, and if so how?  Also, If I 
can insert the stop how do I move it around or delete it.  Now, I 
don't mean inserting a step to stop the song.  I need to fine tune it 
alittle.  Thanks, Brandon.

Effects?

2005-10-23 by K4d4w3r

Hi to All...

I have a little question...
Is there any way to automate, sequence effects
parameters on XX?... for example i want to sequence
the time fo delays or feedback for flangers,cause it
gives many new possibilites in sounds, Anyone knows
how to do that trick?

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Re: Effects?

2005-10-23 by steve_the_composer

With preset level patchcords you can control the >amount< that each 
send (1->4) goes to FXA and FXB. However, there are not patchcords 
destinations for either these or for layer level patchcords for th 
FX parameters.

You can create pre-FX effects using the synth engine and you can 
control these using patch cords, but these take more time to program.

I don't have my E-Mu sysex manual with me, but I do believe there 
are sysex parameters for the FX processor controls. If so, you could 
develop the sysex controls externally on a computer, embed them in a 
midi sequence, and use e-loader to put the seqeunce into your E-mu. 
The E-Mu itself does not have a built-in sysex editor.

This method would give you control, but it wouldn't be "automation" 
in the sense that you could have an envelope or oscilator control 
the parameters.

BUT:

There is an easier solution if all you want to do is just change the 
parameters on the fly through a song (as opposed to 
envelope/oscilator-type automation.

You can create !FX presets that have --none-- for the instrument on 
each level.  (I give mine the prefix !FX, so they come first in the 
preset nagigator.) You can then designate a specific channel as 
your !FX preset channel. By changing !FX presets on that channel, 
you can change the FXA/FXB setting at will.

I believe Aaron wrote aboy this and other have discussed it, though 
I am not sure what keyword to search for in the archives. !FX 
doesn't do it.

This may or may not be what you want, and other may have some 
suggestions, too.  I hope this helps.

--Steve


PS: 

Related posts on FXA/BXB and Pre-FX effects:
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/13211
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/11104








  
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, K4d4w3r <cadaverlucanti@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi to All...
> 
> I have a little question...
> Is there any way to automate, sequence effects
> parameters on XX?... for example i want to sequence
> the time fo delays or feedback for flangers,cause it
> gives many new possibilites in sounds, Anyone knows
> how to do that trick?

Re: [xl7] Re: Effects?

2005-10-23 by K4d4w3r

Thats not the question of FX levels, I know how to
control them, but thaks for that Tip anyway...
And it's not usefull for me the tip with SySex cause i
dont use computer in any way, thats some sort of
Ideology of making music for me, so thats not helpfull
too((( thats a great pitty that FX parameters can't be
sequenced...cause when i played with them live i had
got very inspiring IDMish results...beautifull and
experimental...It's a pitty that Emu had set FX as
some sort of global and unflexible module, cause I
think we all know how creative can be the work with FX...sorry...

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Re: Effects?

2005-10-23 by gonzinigonz

Hi

>thats a great pitty that FX parameters can't be
> sequenced...cause when i played with them live i had
> got very inspiring IDMish results...beautifull and
> experimental...It's a pitty that Emu had set FX as
> some sort of global and unflexible module, cause I
> think we all know how creative can be the work with FX...sorry...
 
This was always been a problem with a lot of synths.. the FX are an 
intergral part of the sound (if you choose to use them of couse..)so 
not being able to control them via a modulation matrix as part of a 
preset is a shame.
Same for seq not having an easy way to achive this. guess a alot of 
software allows this? not sure about that one.
I'd still prefer to use dedicted hardware not a keyboard and mouse..

G

RE: [xl7] Re: Effects?

2005-10-24 by BEAUFILS Adrien

Hi,

 

Why don't you select a preset to control the fx send. It a nice way to control the amount of the 4 possible sends. Try program the FX send in a preset to 0 and let's program the K and L ( or other like O and P )controller to control the Fxa and Fxb to differents value ( for example K>Fxa1>0, K>Fxa2>10...L>Fxb4>25 ). Then you can varie the sends manually for all the routing  ( via the quick edit preset knobs ) and so record these variations in the sequencer. If you need to control the sends separately create a preset without sample and program all the sends to different knobs ( logicaly it will work ). You will need to record one note in the track to recall the preset in the pattern. So record the movement in the sequencer.

 

In fact i've just have the idea today by reading your post ( in the first case it work in the second ... i don't know )

 

Hope that help.

 

 


gonzinigonz <gonzini@...> a écrit :
Hi

>thats a great pitty that FX parameters can't be
> sequenced...cause when i played with them live i had
> got very inspiring IDMish results...beautifull and
> experimental...It's a pitty that Emu had set FX as
> some sort of global and unflexible module, cause I
> think we all know how creative can be the work with FX...sorry...

This was always been a problem with a lot of synths.. the FX are an 
intergral part of the sound (if you choose to use them of couse..)so 
not being able to control them via a modulation matrix as part of a 
preset is a shame.
Same for seq not having an easy way to achive this. guess a alot of 
software allows this? not sure about that one.
I'd still prefer to use dedicted hardware not a keyboard and mouse..

G






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RE: [xl7] Re: Effects?

2005-10-24 by K4d4w3r

To Gonzi...Yeas I agree that using Hardware is
better))) as i sad before i dont use computer in
creating my music in anyway exept for final
recording))) But, I should mention that playing with
some of the software i found much more flexibility in
driving some mad stuff with effects...

To Beafullis... Your proposition about the FX presets
was already delivered by Steve, and by the way, some
of such stuff was written in the manual if i recall
correctly...

P.S. the question is not about sends, the question
about parameters...
Try such stuff for IDM live... Send for example some
beat channels on one of the busses...and set the send
quantity to aproximatly 95-100% for the effectB and 0
for the effect A. Than Set the effect in one of such
setups...
Flanger - Feedback 97-100% , modulation 0...
DelayFX (try different ones) - Delay very fast (5-35
ms or 1\32 and near) and feedback also to aproximatly
100% 
than start the sequencer with the beat playng)))
You'll hear very interesting result, changing the
delay or modulation rate parameters (for the flanger)
will give great results( I LIKE THEM!!!) But be aware,
sound are lot of louder in such setups))))
I hope You'll apreciate this Tip..Sounds are little
bit of Authechre or AphexTwin like...

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RE: [xl7] Re: Effects?

2005-10-25 by BEAUFILS Adrien

Sorry for the double bad answer, i haven't learnt you post first. And thank you for the parameters. Aphex Twin is typicaly what i want to do ( the mix of the rythm with the effect as a speed as possible is a thing that i don't achieve correctly ).
 
A+


K4d4w3r <cadaverlucanti@...> a écrit :
To Gonzi...Yeas I agree that using Hardware is
better))) as i sad before i dont use computer in
creating my music in anyway exept for final
recording))) But, I should mention that playing with
some of the software i found much more flexibility in
driving some mad stuff with effects...

To Beafullis... Your proposition about the FX presets
was already delivered by Steve, and by the way, some
of such stuff was written in the manual if i recall
correctly...

P.S. the question is not about sends, the question
about parameters...
Try such stuff for IDM live... Send for example some
beat channels on one of the busses...and set the send
quantity to aproximatly 95-100% for the effectB and 0
for the effect A. Than Set the effect in one of such
setups...
Flanger - Feedback 97-100% , modulation 0...
DelayFX (try different ones) - Delay very fast (5-35
ms or 1\32 and near) and feedback also to aproximatly
100% 
than start the sequencer with the beat playng)))
You'll hear very interesting result, changing the
delay or modulation rate parameters (for the flanger)
will give great results( I LIKE THEM!!!) But be aware,
sound are lot of louder in such setups))))
I hope You'll apreciate this Tip..Sounds are little
bit of Authechre or AphexTwin like...

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RE: [xl7] Re: Effects?

2005-10-25 by K4d4w3r

))) ThaX...))) BEAUFILS... i'm very glad you've liked
that trick...)

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