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? HOW LONG ?

? HOW LONG ?

2005-10-16 by lifeistheformofenergy

? How long should an xl 7 be on before one should wonder or worry about 
it getting damaged ?

Re: [xl7] ? HOW LONG ?

2005-10-16 by Bob S.

What voltage are you running it at and what is the general  temperature environment of the area ?

Bob


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Sent: Oct 15, 2005 8:20 PM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] ? HOW LONG ?

? How long should an xl 7 be on before one should wonder or worry about 
it getting damaged ?






 
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Re: [xl7] ? HOW LONG ?

2005-10-16 by Mibrilane

On Oct 15, 2005, at 8:20 PM, lifeistheformofenergy wrote:

> ? How long should an xl 7 be on before one should wonder or worry  
> about
> it getting damaged ?

In my experience, computers with no moving parts (i.e. no hard  
drives, fans, etc.) can be on indefinitely and should not be damaged  
by being on. The XL-7 is essentially a computer, so I would imagine  
it is not going to be damaged by being on for extended periods.

Of course, the easy solution to this worry is to shut it off when  
you're not using it. ;D

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Re: [xl7] ? HOW LONG ?

2005-10-16 by Bob S.

I asked the voltage question because the group has found the XX-7s run much hotter on 220/240 volts and have a higher incidence of failure.  The final recommendation was to use a step down transformer and operate the units at 120V.

Bob
Corona/Riverside, CA


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From: lifeistheformofenergy <lifeistheformofenergy@...>
Sent: Oct 15, 2005 8:20 PM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] ? HOW LONG ?

? How long should an xl 7 be on before one should wonder or worry about 
it getting damaged ?






 
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Re: ? HOW LONG ?

2005-10-16 by lifeistheformofenergy

GOOD QUESTION buddy - I will have you know that here in America we 
run our frequency at 60 Hrz with 120 V (generally) (sometimes 240 V 
in big appliances, usually with those big 3 prong plugs) - UK it is 
100 V with 50 HRz - 





--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@e...> wrote:
>
> I asked the voltage question because the group has found the XX-7s 
run much hotter on 220/240 volts and have a higher incidence of 
failure.  The final recommendation was to use a step down transformer 
and operate the units at 120V.
> 
> Bob
> Corona/Riverside, CA
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lifeistheformofenergy <lifeistheformofenergy@y...>
> Sent: Oct 15, 2005 8:20 PM
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [xl7] ? HOW LONG ?
> 
> ? How long should an xl 7 be on before one should wonder or worry 
about 
> it getting damaged ?
> 
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Re: ? HOW LONG ?

2005-10-16 by lifeistheformofenergy

even with the step down convertor how long - I ask because when I get 
into a session - I have to get into a session - I get serious about 
what I do because I don't have all the time in the world to do what I 
do - so when I do stuff it is in large brackets of time and I don't 
want there to be problems that can't be fixed - nobody deserves that 
either so I thought this was a good question ...







--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@e...> wrote:
>
> I asked the voltage question because the group has found the XX-7s 
run much hotter on 220/240 volts and have a higher incidence of 
failure.  The final recommendation was to use a step down transformer 
and operate the units at 120V.
> 
> Bob
> Corona/Riverside, CA
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lifeistheformofenergy <lifeistheformofenergy@y...>
> Sent: Oct 15, 2005 8:20 PM
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [xl7] ? HOW LONG ?
> 
> ? How long should an xl 7 be on before one should wonder or worry 
about 
> it getting damaged ?
> 
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Re: [xl7] Re: ? HOW LONG ?

2005-10-16 by Bob S.

Well, I'm not very good at deciphering indirect answers but if you are in the US, that is, 120V, then there is no problem with leaving the command station on indefinitely, I have left it on for months at a time without a problem and went picked up where I left off.  However, I keep all my computer based synth gear on UPS power, because you never know when power can drop and lose or corrupt your work......

Bob
Corona/Riverside, CA



-----Original Message-----
From: lifeistheformofenergy <lifeistheformofenergy@...>
Sent: Oct 15, 2005 9:55 PM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Re: ? HOW LONG ?

GOOD QUESTION buddy - I will have you know that here in America we 
run our frequency at 60 Hrz with 120 V (generally) (sometimes 240 V 
in big appliances, usually with those big 3 prong plugs) - UK it is 
100 V with 50 HRz - 





--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@e...> wrote:
>
> I asked the voltage question because the group has found the XX-7s 
run much hotter on 220/240 volts and have a higher incidence of 
failure.  The final recommendation was to use a step down transformer 
and operate the units at 120V.
> 
> Bob
> Corona/Riverside, CA
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lifeistheformofenergy <lifeistheformofenergy@y...>
> Sent: Oct 15, 2005 8:20 PM
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [xl7] ? HOW LONG ?
> 
> ? How long should an xl 7 be on before one should wonder or worry 
about 
> it getting damaged ?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [xl7] Re: ? HOW LONG ?

2005-10-16 by bbbigup bbbigup

Yes Bob S., you're right, some people who work under 220/240 had some problems.With the stanby because the power supply stay on, and it be very hot.And with a little problem on the electric line the power supply break, sometime with the motherboard.Me i always put off my xl-7 with the switch on the rear, never stand by.

"Bob S." <tttsystems@...> a écrit :Well, I'm not very good at deciphering indirect answers but if you are in the US, that is, 120V, then there is no problem with leaving the command station on indefinitely, I have left it on for months at a time without a problem and went picked up where I left off.  However, I keep all my computer based synth gear on UPS power, because you never know when power can drop and lose or corrupt your work......

Bob
Corona/Riverside, CA



-----Original Message-----
From: lifeistheformofenergy <lifeistheformofenergy@...>
Sent: Oct 15, 2005 9:55 PM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Re: ? HOW LONG ?

GOOD QUESTION buddy - I will have you know that here in America we 
run our frequency at 60 Hrz with 120 V (generally) (sometimes 240 V 
in big appliances, usually with those big 3 prong plugs) - UK it is 
100 V with 50 HRz - 





--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@e...> wrote:
>
> I asked the voltage question because the group has found the XX-7s 
run much hotter on 220/240 volts and have a higher incidence of 
failure.  The final recommendation was to use a step down transformer 
and operate the units at 120V.
> 
> Bob
> Corona/Riverside, CA
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lifeistheformofenergy <lifeistheformofenergy@y...>
> Sent: Oct 15, 2005 8:20 PM
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [xl7] ? HOW LONG ?
> 
> ? How long should an xl 7 be on before one should wonder or worry 
about 
> it getting damaged ?
> 
> 
> 
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> 
>  
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Re: ? HOW LONG ?

2005-10-16 by lifeistheformofenergy

well I personally think it is a better idea to shut it off with the 
switch becuase that way there is no discrepincy about voltage being 
wasted from the outlet because the actual circuit is "open" - but 
thats me trying to save the world on little kilowatt at a time - as 
far as leaving the device on for months or even days - I don't have 
that much time at one time besides it is easy to save things along 
the way - then stop - do what is necessary and then continue - I just 
thought for some reason that 8 hours might be getting to be long for 
it considering it doesn't have a fan ... yes I realize emu had good 
and intuitive intentions with the XX 7 - but honestly when things get 
hot even to certian seemingly low temperatures memory in general is 
volitile and thus suseptable to what is known commonly/collectively 
as "frying" - I happen to be a good parent of my device - I don't 
want my device to start smokin - its bad for the health you know ... 








--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, bbbigup bbbigup <bbbigup@y...> wrote:
>
> Yes Bob S., you're right, some people who work under 220/240 had 
some problems.With the stanby because the power supply stay on, and 
it be very hot.And with a little problem on the electric line the 
power supply break, sometime with the motherboard.Me i always put off 
my xl-7 with the switch on the rear, never stand by.
> 
> "Bob S." <tttsystems@e...> a écrit :Well, I'm not very good at 
deciphering indirect answers but if you are in the US, that is, 120V, 
then there is no problem with leaving the command station on 
indefinitely, I have left it on for months at a time without a 
problem and went picked up where I left off.  However, I keep all my 
computer based synth gear on UPS power, because you never know when 
power can drop and lose or corrupt your work......
> 
> Bob
> Corona/Riverside, CA
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: lifeistheformofenergy <lifeistheformofenergy@y...>
> Sent: Oct 15, 2005 9:55 PM
> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [xl7] Re: ? HOW LONG ?
> 
> GOOD QUESTION buddy - I will have you know that here in America we 
> run our frequency at 60 Hrz with 120 V (generally) (sometimes 240 V 
> in big appliances, usually with those big 3 prong plugs) - UK it is 
> 100 V with 50 HRz - 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@e...> wrote:
> >
> > I asked the voltage question because the group has found the XX-
7s 
> run much hotter on 220/240 volts and have a higher incidence of 
> failure.  The final recommendation was to use a step down 
transformer 
> and operate the units at 120V.
> > 
> > Bob
> > Corona/Riverside, CA
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lifeistheformofenergy <lifeistheformofenergy@y...>
> > Sent: Oct 15, 2005 8:20 PM
> > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [xl7] ? HOW LONG ?
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> > ? How long should an xl 7 be on before one should wonder or worry 
> about 
> > it getting damaged ?
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Re: ? HOW LONG ?

2005-10-16 by gonzinigonz

Heat is a killer with electronics and it seems that the switch mode 
in these command stations is the weak part. I run mine on 110v (in 
the uk with 240v) which drops the internal temperature down alot.
As for leaving it on for exstended periods of time it shouldnt cause 
any damage. Most DSP's (older generation..) will get upto around 60ºC 
and that seems to be within spec. Thats getting too hot to touch for 
more than a second!
Only probelm really is caps drying out in the power supply, but that 
will happen eventually anyway.
I never leave any appliances on anyway, its saves on the bills and 
the whole planets being sucked dry as it is ;o)
Gonz 




--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "lifeistheformofenergy" 
<lifeistheformofenergy@y...> wrote:
>
> well I personally think it is a better idea to shut it off with the 
> switch becuase that way there is no discrepincy about voltage being 
> wasted from the outlet because the actual circuit is "open" - but 
> thats me trying to save the world on little kilowatt at a time - as 
> far as leaving the device on for months or even days - I don't have 
> that much time at one time besides it is easy to save things along 
> the way - then stop - do what is necessary and then continue - I 
just 
> thought for some reason that 8 hours might be getting to be long 
for 
> it considering it doesn't have a fan ... yes I realize emu had good 
> and intuitive intentions with the XX 7 - but honestly when things 
get 
> hot even to certian seemingly low temperatures memory in general is 
> volitile and thus suseptable to what is known commonly/collectively 
> as "frying" - I happen to be a good parent of my device - I don't 
> want my device to start smokin - its bad for the health you 
know ... 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, bbbigup bbbigup <bbbigup@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Yes Bob S., you're right, some people who work under 220/240 had 
> some problems.With the stanby because the power supply stay on, and 
> it be very hot.And with a little problem on the electric line the 
> power supply break, sometime with the motherboard.Me i always put 
off 
> my xl-7 with the switch on the rear, never stand by.
> > 
> > "Bob S." <tttsystems@e...> a écrit :Well, I'm not very good at 
> deciphering indirect answers but if you are in the US, that is, 
120V, 
> then there is no problem with leaving the command station on 
> indefinitely, I have left it on for months at a time without a 
> problem and went picked up where I left off.  However, I keep all 
my 
> computer based synth gear on UPS power, because you never know when 
> power can drop and lose or corrupt your work......
> > 
> > Bob
> > Corona/Riverside, CA
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: lifeistheformofenergy <lifeistheformofenergy@y...>
> > Sent: Oct 15, 2005 9:55 PM
> > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [xl7] Re: ? HOW LONG ?
> > 
> > GOOD QUESTION buddy - I will have you know that here in America 
we 
> > run our frequency at 60 Hrz with 120 V (generally) (sometimes 240 
V 
> > in big appliances, usually with those big 3 prong plugs) - UK it 
is 
> > 100 V with 50 HRz - 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Bob S." <tttsystems@e...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I asked the voltage question because the group has found the XX-
> 7s 
> > run much hotter on 220/240 volts and have a higher incidence of 
> > failure.  The final recommendation was to use a step down 
> transformer 
> > and operate the units at 120V.
> > > 
> > > Bob
> > > Corona/Riverside, CA
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: lifeistheformofenergy <lifeistheformofenergy@y...>
> > > Sent: Oct 15, 2005 8:20 PM
> > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [xl7] ? HOW LONG ?
> > > 
> > > ? How long should an xl 7 be on before one should wonder or 
worry 
> > about 
> > > it getting damaged ?
> > > 
> > > 
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