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Please help me with this OS downloading problem, otherwise how can I judge
how good OS 1.18 is? If you look at my post from last night, the i-Book
won't do a thing.
I'm trying tomorrow morning with another Mac, or I'll try at somebody's
office with a PC, but is there a certain thing I'm skipping?


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Somebody stated there is no P2500 ROM Card available - why is that?

>>>Probably because if they sold the P2500 card right away, no one would 
buy the more expensive P2500 unit, they would just get cards for their 
older EMu modules.  Also, not positive, but aren't the outputs on the 
P2500 a higher bit depth?  Not sure if that's strictly hardware depandant, 
or if there's software changes that go along with that. <<<

Professional features way more than I need and some missing basics I would 
expect from any cheapo hardware sequencer: 

>>>Hehe, a fair sumnation unfortunately.  I REALLY think that the new OS 
is going to surprise a lot of people.  There were a few easy bug fixes 
that could have been implemented a couple weeks ago with a new OS release. 
 Instead we're looking at the end of the month/early March until the enxt 
one.  I'm guessing that means we're going to see quite a few changes based 
on the comments from this list.  Time will tell, but I think the Emu folks 
are hard at work for us. <<<

copy and paste of selected bars(!). 

>>>Aaron has already told me that will be in the next release for sure. 
<<<

I have to concentrate a lot on how to use this machine. (Copy a pattern to 
another destination but be aware that when editing you are altering the 
source pattern, not the destination pattern. Very strange!)

>>>That shouldn't be happening.  The pattern locations are completely 
independant from one another, just make sure you are editing the correct 
pattern. <<<

I ended up testing the triton LE: Very clean sounding 48 bit sampling, 
pooooowwwwwerful arpeggiators (main point!), 

>>>You think the arps in the Korg are better than the MP-7?  That kinda 
surprises me, as the Emu's are the most editable and best all around 
sounding out of any I've heard.  Certainly more flexible too as the Korg 
only lets you use 2 at a time, while we can use what, 16 on the XX-7's? 
<<<

very good bread and butter like organs, strings, pads, brass. Amazing but 
cut down efx section (to triton, but still way more powerful than the 
XX-7. Samling option. And an extremely logic and simple to use OS. Is it 
fair to compare? Yes. I was convinced to return my mp-7 and get the triton 
instead. But the funny thing is: After two nights of testing I raelised I 
will miss the mp-7. Why? It sounds more "grooving" to me.

>>>Not a fair comparison IMHO, you're comparing a master keyboard with a 
"groove box".  Of course the Korg will have more bread and butter sounds, 
that's what it's supposed to do.  Of course the MP-7 will groove more, 
that's what it's supposed to do.  As my shop teacher said, you gotta use 
the right tool for the right job. <<<
 
Some say Emu sounds cold. 

>>>Some people still think the Earth is flat too, they're idiots.  The 
XX-7's are incredibly warm sounding, and comes close to the sound of the 
best VA's (very over-rated definition) out there. <<<

rEalm

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:

(No P2500 Card for the MP-7?)
Not sure if that's strictly hardware depandant, 
> or if there's software changes that go along with that. <<<

>>>>>> Yes, the P2500 has 24 bit outputs, but I guess thats no 
omission for using the P2500 ROM card (if there was)in the XX-
7.<<<<<<<< 


I REALLY think that the new OS 
> is going to surprise a lot of people.  There were a few easy bug 
fixes 
> that could have been implemented a couple weeks ago with a new OS 
release. 
>  Instead we're looking at the end of the month/early March until 
the enxt 
> one.  I'm guessing that means we're going to see quite a few 
changes based 
> on the comments from this list.  


>>>>>>Come on, ERic, you heard the news, didn´t you? How about some 
fortune telling?<<<<<<


> 
> I ended up testing the triton LE: > pooooowwwwwerful arpeggiators 
(main point!), 
> 
> >>>You think the arps in the Korg are better than the MP-7?  That 
kinda 
> surprises me, as the Emu's are the most editable and best all 
around 
> sounding out of any I've heard.  Certainly more flexible too as the 
Korg 
> only lets you use 2 at a time, while we can use what, 16 on the XX-
7's? 


>>>>I wouldn´t say "better". Right, the XX-7 can use 16 arps at a 
time (unmatched good stuff!!!), but can the XX-7 arpeggiate cords 
(more than one note at a time) to do guitar strumming or such? I 
don´t believe so, but I´m not sure, haven´t programmed arps of that 
kind until now. By the way: Wouldn´t it be cool to trackrecord a 
short sequence (that cuts after the 32 step) and assign it as an 
arpeggio instead of programming it the hard way? <<<<<<<<

> 
(comparison mp-7 - triton le) 
> >>>Not a fair comparison IMHO, you're comparing a master keyboard 
with a 
> "groove box".  Of course the Korg will have more bread and butter 
sounds, 
> that's what it's supposed to do.  Of course the MP-7 will groove 
more, 
> that's what it's supposed to do. <<<
>  


>>>>> Well, to me they are both hardware sequencers with sound ROM. 
The EMu  being more than a groove box. The korg with a keyboard 
included. Korg intended to go towards the dance crowd and rebrushed 
the triton sounds. I forgot: The triton le is the smallest 
workstation I´ve seen so far (keyboard included), but real 
portability and sturdy (stable? Sorry, my Enghlish) tanklike hardware 
delivers the XX-7.<<<<<<<

> Some say Emu sounds cold. 
> 
> >>>Some people still think the Earth is flat too, they're idiots.  
The 
> XX-7's are incredibly warm sounding, 


>>>>>>>>>Oh yesssss!

and comes close to the sound of the 
> best VA's (very over-rated definition) out there. <<<

>>>>>>>> Help me,  whats the meaning of "VA"? (I am German) I´ve read 
that so many times but didnt bother to ask.


Heinrich

heinrich22001 wrote:

> I wouldn\ufffdt say "better". Right, the XX-7 can use 16 arps at a
> time (unmatched good stuff!!!), but can the XX-7 arpeggiate cords
> (more than one note at a time) to do guitar strumming or such? I
> don\ufffdt believe so, but I\ufffdm not sure, haven\ufffdt programmed arps of that
> kind until now. By the way: Wouldn\ufffdt it be cool to trackrecord a
> short sequence (that cuts after the 32 step) and assign it as an
> arpeggio instead of programming it the hard way?

The two arps are very different.  While Korg only has two arps, they are
12-note polyphonic, meaning you can program up to 12 notes at a time.  E-mu
arps are melodic (monophonic) patterns, but you can play chords with them
(each note playing its monophonic pattern).  You can play up to 32
arpeggiated notes on each of the 32 channels (of course, you'd run out of
polyphony by then!).


> Help me,  whats the meaning of "VA"? (I am German) I\ufffdve read
> that so many times but didnt bother to ask.

Virtual Analog
(a recreation of an analog synth; like the Nords, Jomox, etc...)

-Aaron

Thank yo for clearing this up, Aaron.
One thing I do not understand from the manual:
The max for any arp pattern is 32 steps (page 206). Each (!) step can 
be played (repeated) from one to 32 times (page 208). Does it mean an 
arp pattern can contain up to 1024 notes?
2. If I want to program cords I need to program - say - for example 
six different arps to be played together? Sounds rather time 
consuming. Is there an easier way?

Heinrich

--- In xl7@y..., Aaron Eppolito <aarone+xl7@e...> wrote:
> heinrich22001 wrote:
> 
> > I wouldn´t say "better". Right, the XX-7 can use 16 arps at a
> > time (unmatched good stuff!!!), but can the XX-7 arpeggiate cords
> > (more than one note at a time) to do guitar strumming or such? I
> > don´t believe so, but I´m not sure, haven´t programmed arps of 
that
> > kind until now. By the way: Wouldn´t it be cool to trackrecord a
> > short sequence (that cuts after the 32 step) and assign it as an
> > arpeggio instead of programming it the hard way?
> 
> The two arps are very different.  While Korg only has two arps, 
they are
> 12-note polyphonic, meaning you can program up to 12 notes at a 
time.  E-mu
> arps are melodic (monophonic) patterns, but you can play chords 
with them
> (each note playing its monophonic pattern).  You can play up to 32
> arpeggiated notes on each of the 32 channels (of course, you'd run 
out of
> polyphony by then!).
> 
> 
> > Help me,  whats the meaning of "VA"? (I am German) I´ve read
> > that so many times but didnt bother to ask.
> 
> Virtual Analog
> (a recreation of an analog synth; like the Nords, Jomox, etc...)
> 
> -Aaron

>>>>I wouldn´t say "better". Right, the XX-7 can use 16 arps at a 
time (unmatched good stuff!!!), but can the XX-7 arpeggiate cords 
(more than one note at a time) to do guitar strumming or such? 

Not out of the box but the Beat Garden ROM # 9063 has guitar arps 
with exceptional strumming accuracy.

M2

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orbit3


--- In xl7@y..., "heinrich22001" <hhuent@g...> wrote:
> --- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> 
> (No P2500 Card for the MP-7?)
> Not sure if that's strictly hardware depandant, 
> > or if there's software changes that go along with that. <<<
> 
> >>>>>> Yes, the P2500 has 24 bit outputs, but I guess thats no 
> omission for using the P2500 ROM card (if there was)in the XX-
> 7.<<<<<<<< 
> 
> 
> I REALLY think that the new OS 
> > is going to surprise a lot of people.  There were a few easy bug 
> fixes 
> > that could have been implemented a couple weeks ago with a new OS 
> release. 
> >  Instead we're looking at the end of the month/early March until 
> the enxt 
> > one.  I'm guessing that means we're going to see quite a few 
> changes based 
> > on the comments from this list.  
> 
> 
> >>>>>>Come on, ERic, you heard the news, didn´t you? How about some 
> fortune telling?<<<<<<
> 
> 
> > 
> > I ended up testing the triton LE: > pooooowwwwwerful arpeggiators 
> (main point!), 
> > 
> > >>>You think the arps in the Korg are better than the MP-7?  That 
> kinda 
> > surprises me, as the Emu's are the most editable and best all 
> around 
> > sounding out of any I've heard.  Certainly more flexible too as 
the 
> Korg 
> > only lets you use 2 at a time, while we can use what, 16 on the 
XX-
> 7's? 
> 
> 
> >>>>I wouldn´t say "better". Right, the XX-7 can use 16 arps at a 
> time (unmatched good stuff!!!), but can the XX-7 arpeggiate cords 
> (more than one note at a time) to do guitar strumming or such? I 
> don´t believe so, but I´m not sure, haven´t programmed arps of that 
> kind until now. By the way: Wouldn´t it be cool to trackrecord a 
> short sequence (that cuts after the 32 step) and assign it as an 
> arpeggio instead of programming it the hard way? <<<<<<<<
> 
> > 
> (comparison mp-7 - triton le) 
> > >>>Not a fair comparison IMHO, you're comparing a master keyboard 
> with a 
> > "groove box".  Of course the Korg will have more bread and butter 
> sounds, 
> > that's what it's supposed to do.  Of course the MP-7 will groove 
> more, 
> > that's what it's supposed to do. <<<
> >  
> 
> 
> >>>>> Well, to me they are both hardware sequencers with sound ROM. 
> The EMu  being more than a groove box. The korg with a keyboard 
> included. Korg intended to go towards the dance crowd and rebrushed 
> the triton sounds. I forgot: The triton le is the smallest 
> workstation I´ve seen so far (keyboard included), but real 
> portability and sturdy (stable? Sorry, my Enghlish) tanklike 
hardware 
> delivers the XX-7.<<<<<<<
> 
> > Some say Emu sounds cold. 
> > 
> > >>>Some people still think the Earth is flat too, they're 
idiots.  
> The 
> > XX-7's are incredibly warm sounding, 
> 
> 
> >>>>>>>>>Oh yesssss!
> 
> and comes close to the sound of the 
> > best VA's (very over-rated definition) out there. <<<
> 
> >>>>>>>> Help me,  whats the meaning of "VA"? (I am German) I´ve 
read 
> that so many times but didnt bother to ask.
> 
> 
> Heinrich

heinrich22001 wrote:

> Thank yo for clearing this up, Aaron.
> One thing I do not understand from the manual:
> The max for any arp pattern is 32 steps (page 206). Each (!) step can
> be played (repeated) from one to 32 times (page 208). Does it mean an
> arp pattern can contain up to 1024 notes?

Yep.  =)


> 2. If I want to program cords I need to program - say - for example
> six different arps to be played together? Sounds rather time
> consuming. Is there an easier way?

You just play chords on the keyboard and each note triggers a parallel,
synced, monophonic arp.  What you get is the original chord you played
transposed and repeated for each note of the arp pattern.

A listen to this is worth a thousand words...  Try playing a chord on a
non-solo mode arp preset...

-Aaron

--- In xl7@y..., Aaron Eppolito <aarone+xl7@e...> wrote:
> A listen to this is worth a thousand words...  Try playing a chord 
on a
> non-solo mode arp preset...

>>>>>You bet I will! Thank you.<<<<<<<<

Heinrich

--- In xl7@y..., "emufreak1" <mmcquay@m...> wrote:
> Not out of the box but the Beat Garden ROM # 9063 has guitar arps 
> with exceptional strumming accuracy.

Strange...are they programmed arps using the current parameters (and 
therefore theoretically currently possible), new custom arps using new 
parameters, or some kind of preset riff? I assume they're not just samples...

>>>>> I wouldn´t say "better". Right, the XX-7 can use 16 arps at a
> time (unmatched good stuff!!!), but can the XX-7 arpeggiate cords
> (more than one note at a time) to do guitar strumming or such? I
> don´t believe so, but I´m not sure, haven´t programmed arps of that
> kind until now. By the way: Wouldn´t it be cool to trackrecord a
> short sequence (that cuts after the 32 step) and assign it as an
> arpeggio instead of programming it the hard way? <<<<<<<<

Thats would be a function i also miss often!!! I dont have the time to
program arp patterns step by step

> --- In xl7@y..., "emufreak1" <mmcquay@m...> wrote:
> > Not out of the box but the Beat Garden ROM # 9063 has guitar arps 
> > with exceptional strumming accuracy.


> --- In xl7@y..., "robotchas" <robotchas@y...> wrote:
 
> Strange...are they programmed arps using the current parameters 
(and 
> therefore theoretically currently possible), new custom arps using 
new 
> parameters, or some kind of preset riff? I assume they're not just 
samples...


Robotchas,

In the Beat Garden ROM there are 69 total arps with 36 of them being 
guitar arps in the ranges of C1-C4 and C3-C6, both ranges with 
emphasis on CC's to further control the sounds and parameters.

Different styles as well.

There are demos of the ROM at the site below in the Beat Garden 
folder and for individual presets demos, go to the bookmarks section 
and proceed to the Rob Papen link.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orbit3

Later,

M2

I believe I was the one complaining about the lack of a 2500 card. I don't
believe the reason is because
no one would buy the 2500 if there was. You can get the ROM card for both
the XL-7 and the MP-7,
so why wouldn't you be able to get the same card for the 2500. I'd like to
hear E-mu's answer to that
one. I really wanted the 2500, because I love the blend of sounds it has,
but I hate the design and layout,
like the XX-7's much better........E-MU?
  -----Original Message-----
  From: erik_magrini@... [mailto:erik_magrini@...]
  Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 9:32 AM
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [xl7] and theres hope for an happy end!





  Somebody stated there is no P2500 ROM Card available - why is that?

  >>>Probably because if they sold the P2500 card right away, no one would
buy the more expensive P2500 unit, they would just get cards for their older
EMu modules.  Also, not positive, but aren't the outputs on the P2500 a
higher bit depth?  Not sure if that's strictly hardware depandant, or if
there's software changes that go along with that. <<<

  Professional features way more than I need and some missing basics I would
expect from any cheapo hardware sequencer:

  >>>Hehe, a fair sumnation unfortunately.  I REALLY think that the new OS
is going to surprise a lot of people.  There were a few easy bug fixes that
could have been implemented a couple weeks ago with a new OS release.
Instead we're looking at the end of the month/early March until the enxt
one.  I'm guessing that means we're going to see quite a few changes based
on the comments from this list.  Time will tell, but I think the Emu folks
are hard at work for us. <<<

  copy and paste of selected bars(!).

  >>>Aaron has already told me that will be in the next release for sure.
<<<

  I have to concentrate a lot on how to use this machine. (Copy a pattern to
another destination but be aware that when editing you are altering the
source pattern, not the destination pattern. Very strange!)

  >>>That shouldn't be happening.  The pattern locations are completely
independant from one another, just make sure you are editing the correct
pattern. <<<

  I ended up testing the triton LE: Very clean sounding 48 bit sampling,
pooooowwwwwerful arpeggiators (main point!),

  >>>You think the arps in the Korg are better than the MP-7?  That kinda
surprises me, as the Emu's are the most editable and best all around
sounding out of any I've heard.  Certainly more flexible too as the Korg
only lets you use 2 at a time, while we can use what, 16 on the XX-7's? <<<

  very good bread and butter like organs, strings, pads, brass. Amazing but
cut down efx section (to triton, but still way more powerful than the XX-7.
Samling option. And an extremely logic and simple to use OS. Is it fair to
compare? Yes. I was convinced to return my mp-7 and get the triton instead.
But the funny thing is: After two nights of testing I raelised I will miss
the mp-7. Why? It sounds more "grooving" to me.

  >>>Not a fair comparison IMHO, you're comparing a master keyboard with a
"groove box".  Of course the Korg will have more bread and butter sounds,
that's what it's supposed to do.  Of course the MP-7 will groove more,
that's what it's supposed to do.  As my shop teacher said, you gotta use the
right tool for the right job. <<<

  Some say Emu sounds cold.

  >>>Some people still think the Earth is flat too, they're idiots.  The
XX-7's are incredibly warm sounding, and comes close to the sound of the
best VA's (very over-rated definition) out there. <<<

  rEalm


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-----Original Message-----
From: emufreak1 [mailto:mmcquay@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:51 PM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] Re: and theres hope for an happy end!

>>>>I wouldn´t say "better". Right, the XX-7 can use 16 arps at a
time (unmatched good stuff!!!), but can the XX-7 arpeggiate cords
(more than one note at a time) to do guitar strumming or such?

Not out of the box but the Beat Garden ROM # 9063 has guitar arps
with exceptional strumming accuracy.

M2

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orbit3


--- In xl7@y..., "heinrich22001" wrote:
> --- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
>
> (No P2500 Card for the MP-7?)
> Not sure if that's strictly hardware depandant,
> > or if there's software changes that go along with that. <<<
>
> >>>>>> Yes, the P2500 has 24 bit outputs, but I guess thats no
> omission for using the P2500 ROM card (if there was)in the XX-
> 7.<<<<<<<<
>
>
> I REALLY think that the new OS
> > is going to surprise a lot of people. There were a few easy bug
> fixes
> > that could have been implemented a couple weeks ago with a new OS
> release.
> > Instead we're looking at the end of the month/early March until
> the enxt
> > one. I'm guessing that means we're going to see quite a few
> changes based
> > on the comments from this list.
>
>
> >>>>>>Come on, ERic, you heard the news, didn´t you? How about some
> fortune telling?<<;<<<<
>
>
> >
> > I ended up testing the triton LE: > pooooowwwwwerful arpeggiators
> (main point!),
> >
> > >>>You think the arps in the Korg are better than the MP-7? That
> kinda
> >; surprises me, as the Emu's are the most editable and best all
> around
> > sounding out of any I've heard. Certainly more flexible too as
the
> Korg
> > only lets you use 2 at a time, while we can use what, 16 on the
XX-
> 7's?
>
>
> >>>>I wouldn´t say "better". Right, the XX-7 can use 16 arps at a
> time (unmatched good stuff!!!), but can the XX-7 arpeggiate cords
> (more than one note at a time) to do guitar strumming or such? I
> don´t believe so, but I´m not sure, haven´t programmed arps of that
> kind until now. By the way: Wouldn´t it be cool to trackrecord a
> short sequence (that cuts after the 32 step) and assign it as an
> arpeggio instead of programming it the hard way? <<<<<<<<;
>
> >
> (comparison mp-7 - triton le)
> > >>>Not a fair comparison IMHO, you're comparing a master keyboard
> with a
> > "groove box". Of course the Korg will have more bread and butter
> sounds,
> > that's what it's supposed to do. Of course the MP-7 will groove
> more,
> > that's what it's supposed to do. <<<
> >
>
>
> >>>>> Well, to me they are both hardware sequencers with sound ROM.
> The EMu being more than a groove box. The korg with a keyboard
> included. Korg intended to go towards the dance crowd and rebrushed
>; the triton sounds. I forgot: The triton le is the smallest
> workstation I´ve seen so far (keyboard included), but real
> portability and sturdy (stable? Sorry, my Enghlish) tanklike
hardware
> delivers the XX-7.<<<<<<<
>
> > Some say Emu sounds cold.
> >
> > >>>Some people still think the Earth is flat too, they're
idiots.
> The
> > XX-7's are incredibly warm sounding,
>
>
> >>>>>>>>>Oh yesssss!
>
> and comes close to the sound of the
> > best VA's (very over-rated definition) out there. <<<
>
> >>>>>>>> Help me, whats the meaning of "VA"? (I am German) I´ve
read
> that so many times but didnt bother to ask.
>
>
> Heinrich



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emufreak1 wrote:

Yeah, but if it's not being released as a separate ROM, then you 
can't get em'.

M2

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--- In xl7@y..., "Panzare" <panzare@m...> wrote:

> I believe the 2500 has them as well....right out of the box. Thats 
something
> E-MU could confirm.


>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: emufreak1 [mailto:mmcquay@m...]
>   Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2002 1:51 PM
>   To: xl7@y...
>   Subject: [xl7] Re: and theres hope for an happy end!
> 
> Heinrich wrote:
>   >>>>I wouldn´t say "better". Right, the XX-7 can use 16 arps at a
>   time (unmatched good stuff!!!), but can the XX-7 arpeggiate cords
>   (more than one note at a time) to do guitar strumming or such?

> emufreak1 wrote:

>   Not out of the box but the Beat Garden ROM # 9063 has guitar arps
>   with exceptional strumming accuracy.
> 
>   M2
> 
>   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orbit3
> 
> 
>   --- In xl7@y..., "heinrich22001" <hhuent@g...> wrote:
>   > --- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
>   >
>   > (No P2500 Card for the MP-7?)
>   > Not sure if that's strictly hardware depandant,
>   > > or if there's software changes that go along with that. <<<
>   >
>   > >>>>>> Yes, the P2500 has 24 bit outputs, but I guess thats no
>   > omission for using the P2500 ROM card (if there was)in the XX-
>   > 7.<<<<<<<<
>   >
>   >
>   > I REALLY think that the new OS
>   > > is going to surprise a lot of people.  There were a few easy 
bug
>   > fixes
>   > > that could have been implemented a couple weeks ago with a 
new OS
>   > release.
>   > >  Instead we're looking at the end of the month/early March 
until
>   > the enxt
>   > > one.  I'm guessing that means we're going to see quite a few
>   > changes based
>   > > on the comments from this list.
>   >
>   >
>   > >>>>>>Come on, ERic, you heard the news, didn´t you? How about 
some
>   > fortune telling?<<<<<<
>   >
>   >
>   > >
>   > > I ended up testing the triton LE: > pooooowwwwwerful 
arpeggiators
>   > (main point!),
>   > >
>   > > >>>You think the arps in the Korg are better than the MP-7?  
That
>   > kinda
>   > > surprises me, as the Emu's are the most editable and best all
>   > around
>   > > sounding out of any I've heard.  Certainly more flexible too 
as
>   the
>   > Korg
>   > > only lets you use 2 at a time, while we can use what, 16 on 
the
>   XX-
>   > 7's?
>   >
>   >
>   > >>>>I wouldn´t say "better". Right, the XX-7 can use 16 arps at 
a
>   > time (unmatched good stuff!!!), but can the XX-7 arpeggiate 
cords
>   > (more than one note at a time) to do guitar strumming or such? I
>   > don´t believe so, but I´m not sure, haven´t programmed arps of 
that
>   > kind until now. By the way: Wouldn´t it be cool to trackrecord a
>   > short sequence (that cuts after the 32 step) and assign it as an
>   > arpeggio instead of programming it the hard way? <<<<<<<<
>   >
>   > >
>   > (comparison mp-7 - triton le)
>   > > >>>Not a fair comparison IMHO, you're comparing a master 
keyboard
>   > with a
>   > > "groove box".  Of course the Korg will have more bread and 
butter
>   > sounds,
>   > > that's what it's supposed to do.  Of course the MP-7 will 
groove
>   > more,
>   > > that's what it's supposed to do. <<<
>   > >
>   >
>   >
>   > >>>>> Well, to me they are both hardware sequencers with sound 
ROM.
>   > The EMu  being more than a groove box. The korg with a keyboard
>   > included. Korg intended to go towards the dance crowd and 
rebrushed
>   > the triton sounds. I forgot: The triton le is the smallest
>   > workstation I´ve seen so far (keyboard included), but real
>   > portability and sturdy (stable? Sorry, my Enghlish) tanklike
>   hardware
>   > delivers the XX-7.<<<<<<<
>   >
>   > > Some say Emu sounds cold.
>   > >
>   > > >>>Some people still think the Earth is flat too, they're
>   idiots.
>   > The
>   > > XX-7's are incredibly warm sounding,
>   >
>   >
>   > >>>>>>>>>Oh yesssss!
>   >
>   > and comes close to the sound of the
>   > > best VA's (very over-rated definition) out there. <<<
>   >
>   > >>>>>>>> Help me,  whats the meaning of "VA"? (I am German) I´ve
>   read
>   > that so many times but didnt bother to ask.
>   >
>   >
>   > Heinrich
> 
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