Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Hey,

When working with an outboard sequencer (such as a computer) and other synths, how do 
you route the MIDI so that you can use all the channels of the XL-7 and use other synth 
sources at the same time?  My MIDI interface is a MOTU microExpress, (4 in-6 out) but I've 
got their smaller (2x2) Fastlane as well.  I ultimately want to control everything using a 
Novation Remote61 which has 2 out, one in, one thru and a USB I/O.

My issue is I'm really keen on controlling the XL-7 with the Novation.

Mark

not entirely sure of what youre aiming to do but my main sequencer or 
my favorite at least, fl studio, has only one remote input but i want 
to use the keypads of my mp7 and the programable knobs to send messages 
to fl studio as well as thte trigger pads.

i have the knobs and the triggers on out port b and the keys on out a 
as wel as the transport then i use the midi ox mid router to rout all 
output from my mp-7 to midi yoke 1. and then i also have the last 3 
trigger buttons to send midi to a keykit thing that i made thatplays 
sysex files to my mp7 to change multisetups. it's a setup thats still 
in its alphastages tho. im using a 1x1 usb midi device  sblive platinum 
live drive midi i/o and an m-audio 2x2 midi interface 

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "zerocrossing2001" <zerocrossing2001@y...> 
wrote:
> Hey,
> 
> When working with an outboard sequencer (such as a computer) and 
other synths, how do 
> you route the MIDI so that you can use all the channels of the XL-7 
and use other synth 
> sources at the same time?  My MIDI interface is a MOTU microExpress, 
(4 in-6 out) but I've 
> got their smaller (2x2) Fastlane as well.  I ultimately want to 
control everything using a 

> Novation Remote61 which has 2 out, one in, one thru and a USB I/O.
> 
> My issue is I'm really keen on controlling the XL-7 with the Novation.
> 
> Mark

Right.  I'm trying to do something a bit different.  I think its
going to be a matter of me using my keyboard's second midi out and some creative 
routing.  I was hoping for another way, as I have a few multi-timbral devices that could 
work this way.

Mark

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> not entirely sure of what youre aiming to do but my main sequencer
or 
> my favorite at least, fl studio, has only one remote input but i
want 
> to use the keypads of my mp7 and the programable knobs to send
messages 
> to fl studio as well as thte trigger pads.
> 
> i have the knobs and the triggers on out port b and the keys on out
a 
> as wel as the transport then i use the midi ox mid router to rout
all 
> output from my mp-7 to midi yoke 1. and then i also have the last 3 
> trigger buttons to send midi to a keykit thing that i made
thatplays 
> sysex files to my mp7 to change multisetups. it's a setup thats
still 
> in its alphastages tho. im using a 1x1 usb midi device  sblive
platinum 
> live drive midi i/o and an m-audio 2x2 midi interface 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "zerocrossing2001" <
zerocrossing2001@y...> 
> wrote:
> > Hey,
> > 
> > When working with an outboard sequencer (such as a computer) and 
> other synths, how do 
> > you route the MIDI so that you can use all the channels of the
XL-7 
> and use other synth 
> > sources at the same time?  My MIDI interface is a MOTU
microExpress, 
> (4 in-6 out) but I've 
> > got their smaller (2x2) Fastlane as well.  I ultimately want to 
> control everything using a 
> > Novation Remote61 which has 2 out, one in, one thru and a USB I/O.
> > 
> > My issue is I'm really keen on controlling the XL-7 with the
Novation.
> > 
> > Mark

Hi all   Well,I have 1.01 on my xl7, which is working fine.  but I can 
update to latest OS

what experiences have you all had with the various strengths and weaknesses 
of the varios OS?  I would like to have the compact now and rMix that is one 
the 2.0  but are there any drawbacks to the latest version?   thanks much
Dan

forgot to mention that i also have my ms2000b reciving midi through 
the software app...

but do you want to sent midi to everything just from your keyboard? 
that's what i wanted the mp7 to do but unfortunately despite all of 
its midi capability it still lacks in some fundamental areas. but i 
am trying to make software work arounds to accomodate this.
(please excuse my spelling :))


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "zerocrossing2001" 
<zerocrossing2001@y...> wrote:
> Right.  I'm trying to do something a bit different.  I think its
> going to be a matter of me using my keyboard's second midi out and 
some creative 
> routing.  I was hoping for another way, as I have a few multi-
timbral devices that could 
> work this way.
> 
> Mark
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > not entirely sure of what youre aiming to do but my main 
sequencer
> or 
> > my favorite at least, fl studio, has only one remote input but i
> want 
> > to use the keypads of my mp7 and the programable knobs to send
> messages 
> > to fl studio as well as thte trigger pads.
> > 
> > i have the knobs and the triggers on out port b and the keys on 
out
> a 
> > as wel as the transport then i use the midi ox mid router to rout
> all 
> > output from my mp-7 to midi yoke 1. and then i also have the 
last 3 
> > trigger buttons to send midi to a keykit thing that i made
> thatplays 
> > sysex files to my mp7 to change multisetups. it's a setup thats
> still 
> > in its alphastages tho. im using a 1x1 usb midi device  sblive
> platinum 
> > live drive midi i/o and an m-audio 2x2 midi interface 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "zerocrossing2001" <
> zerocrossing2001@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > Hey,
> > > 
> > > When working with an outboard sequencer (such as a computer) 
and 
> > other synths, how do 
> > > you route the MIDI so that you can use all the channels of the
> XL-7 
> > and use other synth 
> > > sources at the same time?  My MIDI interface is a MOTU
> microExpress, 
> > (4 in-6 out) but I've 
> > > got their smaller (2x2) Fastlane as well.  I ultimately want 
to 
> > control everything using a 
> > > Novation Remote61 which has 2 out, one in, one thru and a USB 
I/O.

> > > 
> > > My issue is I'm really keen on controlling the XL-7 with the
> Novation.
> > > 
> > > Mark

forgot to mention that i also have my ms2000b reciving midi through 
the software app...

but do you want to sent midi to everything just from your keyboard? 
that's what i wanted the mp7 to do but unfortunately despite all of 
its midi capability it still lacks in some fundamental areas. but i 
am trying to make software work arounds to accomodate this.
(please excuse my spelling :))


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "zerocrossing2001" 
<zerocrossing2001@y...> wrote:
> Right.  I'm trying to do something a bit different.  I think its
> going to be a matter of me using my keyboard's second midi out and 
some creative 
> routing.  I was hoping for another way, as I have a few multi-
timbral devices that could 
> work this way.
> 
> Mark
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote:
> > not entirely sure of what youre aiming to do but my main 
sequencer
> or 
> > my favorite at least, fl studio, has only one remote input but i
> want 
> > to use the keypads of my mp7 and the programable knobs to send
> messages 
> > to fl studio as well as thte trigger pads.
> > 
> > i have the knobs and the triggers on out port b and the keys on 
out
> a 
> > as wel as the transport then i use the midi ox mid router to rout
> all 
> > output from my mp-7 to midi yoke 1. and then i also have the 
last 3 
> > trigger buttons to send midi to a keykit thing that i made
> thatplays 
> > sysex files to my mp7 to change multisetups. it's a setup thats
> still 
> > in its alphastages tho. im using a 1x1 usb midi device  sblive
> platinum 
> > live drive midi i/o and an m-audio 2x2 midi interface 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "zerocrossing2001" <
> zerocrossing2001@y...> 
> > wrote:
> > > Hey,
> > > 
> > > When working with an outboard sequencer (such as a computer) 
and 
> > other synths, how do 
> > > you route the MIDI so that you can use all the channels of the
> XL-7 
> > and use other synth 
> > > sources at the same time?  My MIDI interface is a MOTU
> microExpress, 
> > (4 in-6 out) but I've 
> > > got their smaller (2x2) Fastlane as well.  I ultimately want 
to 
> > control everything using a 
> > > Novation Remote61 which has 2 out, one in, one thru and a USB 
I/O.

> > > 
> > > My issue is I'm really keen on controlling the XL-7 with the
> Novation.
> > > 
> > > Mark

(1) What are you trying to do? (Or are you exploring possible
options?)

(2) Does your MOTU have software and are you using it to set up user 
routing configurations?

I have the MT Express (8x8 midi router, parallel port version--
not usb). For Win98SE there is Console software; for WinXP there is 
Cockworks. They also have Mac software.

There are so many variations.  For example, I have one user preset 
on the MTXP and one corresponding E-Mu Multisetup where Sonar (on the
PC) is the master. I have a different MTXP/E-Mu setup for pattern
creation on the E-Mu using a single keyboard.

Also, I have an almost empty pattern template to record on the E-Mu 
sequencer tacks for external devices. (Each track in the template 
pattern has volume data to preserve the external track setting.)

For older gear (Roland Intelligent Arranger), I used to have MOTU 
presets (1) for Cakewalk as master clock and (2) for the intelligent 
arrager as master clock.

If your MOTU uses software for setting up user presets like the 
MTXP, the possibilities are almost limitless--depending on what you 
are trying to do.

Hope this helps.

--Steve

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "zerocrossing2001" <ze
rocrossing2001@y...> 
wrote:
> Right.  I'm trying to do something a bit different.  I think its
> going to be a matter of me using my keyboard's second midi out and 
some creative 
> routing.  I was hoping for another way, as I have a few multi-
timbral devices that could 

> work this way.
> 
> Mark

Thanks, that helps a lot I think.  My issue was I think I was trying to make a "Mark" preset 
and it's not going to happen.  I'm going to have to make a few of them that address 
different tasks and use both outputs of my MIDI controller for full flexibility.  Man, my 
setup is becoming so complex it's hurting my head!  I can't wait until it's put together.

Mark

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote:

> (1) What are you trying to do? (Or are you exploring possible
> options?)
> 
> (2) Does your MOTU have software and are you using it to set up user 
> routing configurations?
> 
> I have the MT Express (8x8 midi router, parallel port version--
> not usb). For Win98SE there is Console software; for WinXP there is 
> Cockworks. They also have Mac software.
> 
> There are so many variations.  For example, I have one user preset 
> on the MTXP and one corresponding E-Mu Multisetup where Sonar (on the
> PC) is the master. I have a different MTXP/E-Mu setup for pattern
> creation on the E-Mu using a single keyboard.
> 
> Also, I have an almost empty pattern template to record on the E-Mu 
> sequencer tacks for external devices. (Each track in the template 
> pattern has volume data to preserve the external track setting.)
> 
> For older gear (Roland Intelligent Arranger), I used to have MOTU 
> presets (1) for Cakewalk as master clock and (2) for the intelligent 
> arrager as master clock.
> 
> If your MOTU uses software for setting up user presets like the 
> MTXP, the possibilities are almost limitless--depending on what you 
> are trying to do.
> 
> Hope this helps.
> 
> --Steve
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "zerocrossing2001" <ze
> rocrossing2001@y...> 
> wrote:
> > Right.  I'm trying to do something a bit different.  I think its
> > going to be a matter of me using my keyboard's second midi out and 
> some creative 
> > routing.  I was hoping for another way, as I have a few multi-
> timbral devices that could 
> > work this way.
> > 
> > Mark

Glad it (hopefully) helped.  Having control over so many possible 
combinations can be mind boggling.  --Steve 


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "zerocrossing2001" <zerocrossing2001@y...> 
wrote:
> Thanks, that helps a lot I think.  My issue was I think I was trying 
to make a "Mark" preset 
> and it's not going to happen.  I'm going to have to make a few of 
them that address 
> different tasks and use both outputs of my MIDI controller for full 
flexibility.  Man, my 
> setup is becoming so complex it's hurting my head!  I can't wait 
until it's put together.

> 
> Mark
>