Yahoo Groups archive
Thread
2005-06-01 by malik
hi there. when you set the programmable knobs in the controler menu for external controlling i know that you can only set controll for 16 knobs but is there a way like say, switching presets that i can have a totaly new set of controllers. or is my only way of getting around this through multisetups?
2005-06-01 by malik
cool just got one of my midi books back from my brother so i can learn how to use bank messages(after all these years i finaly have a reason to) but i wont be able to try till i get back home. didnt pay the internet bill this month..... thanks --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote: > Double check the manual, but I think programmable controller settings > are saved with Mulisetups. Multis can be called with bank > switch/program change commands. That sounds like what you are asking > to do. > > Hope this helps. > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > hi there. > > when you set the programmable knobs in the controler menu for > external > > controlling i know that you can only set controll for 16 knobs but > is > > there a way like say, switching presets that i can have a totaly > new > > set of controllers. or is my only way of getting around this through > > multisetups?
2005-06-01 by steve_the_composer
Its rather simple. You don't need a midi manual. You send two numbers to determine the bank [Bank Select MSB and Bank Select LSB] followed by a program change. Bank Select controls are CCs. (Look in the Appendix to your manual.Bank Select MSB is CC#0; Bank Select LSB is CC#32. BUT: The folks at E-Mu made it easy for you. You can set it up on ONE PAGE in the E-Mu event editor. 1. Go to the event editor, insert a prog event. 2. That's it!!! m = msb = most significant byte = E-Mu ROM ID l = lsb = least significant byte = E-Mu ROM Bank prog = program change = E-Mu Patch Number. msb/ROM ID can be gotten by pressing audition. To switch multisetups, use msb = 80, lsb = 0. (Its in the manual under Restoring multisetups.) Hope this helps. --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > cool just got one of my midi books back from my brother so i can > learn how to use bank messages(after all these years i finaly have a > reason to) but i wont be able to try till i get back home. didnt pay
> the internet bill this month..... > > thanks > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> > wrote: > > Double check the manual, but I think programmable controller > settings > > are saved with Mulisetups. Multis can be called with bank > > switch/program change commands. That sounds like what you are > asking > > to do. > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > > hi there. > > > when you set the programmable knobs in the controler menu for > > external > > > controlling i know that you can only set controll for 16 knobs > but > > is > > > there a way like say, switching presets that i can have a > totaly > > new > > > set of controllers. or is my only way of getting around this > through > > > multisetups?
2005-06-02 by malik
cool thanks i havent tried yet. i am trying to make a speacil midi module for live performances... and thats not really goin well at the moment. i will try tonight. but when i change multisetups will playback be haulted? --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote: > Its rather simple. You don't need a midi manual. You send two > numbers to determine the bank [Bank Select MSB and Bank Select LSB] > followed by a program change. Bank Select controls are CCs. (Look > in the Appendix to your manual.Bank Select MSB is CC#0; Bank Select > LSB is CC#32. > > BUT: > > The folks at E-Mu made it easy for you. You can set it up on ONE > PAGE in the E-Mu event editor. > > 1. Go to the event editor, insert a prog event. > 2. That's it!!! > > m = msb = most significant byte = E-Mu ROM ID > l = lsb = least significant byte = E-Mu ROM Bank > prog = program change = E-Mu Patch Number. > > msb/ROM ID can be gotten by pressing audition. > > To switch multisetups, use msb = 80, lsb = 0. (Its in the manual > under Restoring multisetups.) > > Hope this helps. > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > cool just got one of my midi books back from my brother so i can > > learn how to use bank messages(after all these years i finaly have > a > > reason to) but i wont be able to try till i get back home. didnt > pay > > the internet bill this month..... > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> > > wrote: > > > Double check the manual, but I think programmable controller > > settings > > > are saved with Mulisetups. Multis can be called with bank > > > switch/program change commands. That sounds like what you are > > asking > > > to do. > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > > > hi there. > > > > when you set the programmable knobs in the controler menu for > > > external > > > > controlling i know that you can only set controll for 16 knobs
> > but > > > is > > > > there a way like say, switching presets that i can have a > > totaly > > > new > > > > set of controllers. or is my only way of getting around this > > through > > > > multisetups?
2005-06-02 by steve_the_composer
Good question. I don't recall if you miss a beat. Most likely you will have some noticeable change if you switch a multi during playback. Multis include preset data on all channels, so, you will be change those. IMPORTANT: Make sure you have your current multisetup stored, so you can restore it. If you are not careful, or you don't know what you are doing when you switch multisetups you could have unhappy results. For example, if you switch to a multi that doesn't receive midi, you won't be able to do anything after that change. Also, if you change from a multi that that sends clock to a multi that doesn't send clock, your outgoing clock will no longer be sent. POSSIBLE ALTERNATE ROUTE: I haven't tried this, but just try changing the controller assignments via sysex parameter editing. See Master MIDI Parameters in the sysex manual). --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > cool thanks i havent tried yet. i am trying to make a speacil midi > module for live performances... and thats not really goin well at > the moment. i will try tonight. but when i change multisetups will > playback be haulted? > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> > wrote: > > Its rather simple. You don't need a midi manual. You send two > > numbers to determine the bank [Bank Select MSB and Bank Select > LSB] > > followed by a program change. Bank Select controls are CCs. (Look > > in the Appendix to your manual.Bank Select MSB is CC#0; Bank > Select > > LSB is CC#32. > > > > BUT: > > > > The folks at E-Mu made it easy for you. You can set it up on ONE > > PAGE in the E-Mu event editor. > > > > 1. Go to the event editor, insert a prog event. > > 2. That's it!!! > > > > m = msb = most significant byte = E-Mu ROM ID > > l = lsb = least significant byte = E-Mu ROM Bank > > prog = program change = E-Mu Patch Number. > > > > msb/ROM ID can be gotten by pressing audition. > > > > To switch multisetups, use msb = 80, lsb = 0. (Its in the manual > > under Restoring multisetups.) > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > > cool just got one of my midi books back from my brother so i can > > > learn how to use bank messages(after all these years i finaly > have > > a > > > reason to) but i wont be able to try till i get back home. didnt > > pay > > > the internet bill this month..... > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw- mail@p...> > > > wrote: > > > > Double check the manual, but I think programmable controller > > > settings > > > > are saved with Mulisetups. Multis can be called with bank > > > > switch/program change commands. That sounds like what you are > > > asking > > > > to do. > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > > > > hi there. > > > > > when you set the programmable knobs in the controler menu > for > > > > external > > > > > controlling i know that you can only set controll for 16 > knobs > > > but > > > > is > > > > > there a way like say, switching presets that i can have a > > > totaly > > > > new > > > > > set of controllers. or is my only way of getting around this > > > through > > > > > multisetups?
2005-06-02 by malik
yeah i'll have to try that alternative!! havent looked in the manual yet but maybe i could save midiox presets or something? --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote: > Good question. I don't recall if you miss a beat. Most likely you > will have some noticeable change if you switch a multi during > playback. Multis include preset data on all channels, so, you will > be change those. > > IMPORTANT: Make sure you have your current multisetup stored, so you > can restore it. > > If you are not careful, or you don't know what you are doing when > you switch multisetups you could have unhappy results. For example, > if you switch to a multi that doesn't receive midi, you won't be > able to do anything after that change. Also, if you change from a > multi that that sends clock to a multi that doesn't send clock, your > outgoing clock will no longer be sent. > > POSSIBLE ALTERNATE ROUTE: I haven't tried this, but just try > changing the controller assignments via sysex parameter editing. See > Master MIDI Parameters in the sysex manual). > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > cool thanks i havent tried yet. i am trying to make a speacil midi > > module for live performances... and thats not really goin well at > > the moment. i will try tonight. but when i change multisetups will > > playback be haulted? > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> > > wrote: > > > Its rather simple. You don't need a midi manual. You send two > > > numbers to determine the bank [Bank Select MSB and Bank Select > > LSB] > > > followed by a program change. Bank Select controls are CCs. > (Look > > > in the Appendix to your manual.Bank Select MSB is CC#0; Bank > > Select > > > LSB is CC#32. > > > > > > BUT: > > > > > > The folks at E-Mu made it easy for you. You can set it up on ONE > > > PAGE in the E-Mu event editor. > > > > > > 1. Go to the event editor, insert a prog event. > > > 2. That's it!!! > > > > > > m = msb = most significant byte = E-Mu ROM ID > > > l = lsb = least significant byte = E-Mu ROM Bank > > > prog = program change = E-Mu Patch Number. > > > > > > msb/ROM ID can be gotten by pressing audition. > > > > > > To switch multisetups, use msb = 80, lsb = 0. (Its in the manual > > > under Restoring multisetups.) > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > > > cool just got one of my midi books back from my brother so i > can > > > > learn how to use bank messages(after all these years i finaly > > have > > > a > > > > reason to) but i wont be able to try till i get back home. > didnt > > > pay > > > > the internet bill this month..... > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw- > mail@p...> > > > > wrote: > > > > > Double check the manual, but I think programmable controller > > > > settings > > > > > are saved with Mulisetups. Multis can be called with bank > > > > > switch/program change commands. That sounds like what you > are > > > > asking > > > > > to do. > > > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> > wrote: > > > > > > hi there. > > > > > > when you set the programmable knobs in the controler menu > > for > > > > > external > > > > > > controlling i know that you can only set controll for 16 > > knobs > > > > but > > > > > is > > > > > > there a way like say, switching presets that i can have a
> > > > totaly > > > > > new > > > > > > set of controllers. or is my only way of getting around > this > > > > through > > > > > > multisetups?
2005-06-02 by steve_the_composer
I just did a simple test. You can set up your controllers (MidiA, MidiB, MidiC, etc.) in a single sysex chain and embed them in a pattern See the sysex manual for the details of Parameter Edit/Request if you don't already know how to do that. Here's the test string I used: F0 18 0F 00 55 01 02 07 03 19 00 08 03 19 00 09 03 19 00 0A 03 19 00 0B 03 19 00 F7 Parameter 07 03 is MIDI_A_CONTROL. I set that to 19 00 [controller 25 in decimal). I also did the same for MIDI_B_CONTROL (08 03) --> MIDI_E_CONTROL (0B 03). Using SOnar I placed the sysex bank at measure 1 beat 1 and another sysex bank to change MidiA --> MidiE to Coontroller 16 (decimal) at measure 1 beat 3. I then saved the "song" as a *.mid file (format 0, I think), and loaded it into the P2500 with e-loader. Since the CC 25 sysex was at tick 0, when I loaded the "song" and when I reset it by pressing stop twice, MidiA --> MidiE changed to CC 25. At beat 3, they changed to CC 16 and stayed there. I didn't test it with note data, but my guess is that the sysex strings are so short, they will not cause a glitch during playback with note data. I will upload the test sequence. If you try it, save your multi first- -or at leaste write down your controller settings so you can change it back. --Steve --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > yeah i'll have to try that alternative!! havent looked in the manual > yet . . . .
2005-06-08 by malik
cool !! sorry for the late reply but im at a public library my internet is still down. i'm going to print this out and do it when i get home. thanks a bunch steve youre a life saver. --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote:
> I just did a simple test. You can set up your controllers (MidiA, > MidiB, MidiC, etc.) in a single sysex chain and embed them in a pattern > > See the sysex manual for the details of Parameter Edit/Request if you > don't already know how to do that. > > Here's the test string I used: > > F0 18 0F 00 55 01 02 07 03 19 00 08 03 19 00 09 03 19 > 00 0A 03 19 00 0B 03 19 00 F7 > > Parameter 07 03 is MIDI_A_CONTROL. > I set that to 19 00 [controller 25 in decimal). > I also did the same for MIDI_B_CONTROL (08 03) --> MIDI_E_CONTROL (0B > 03). > > Using SOnar I placed the sysex bank at measure 1 beat 1 and another > sysex bank to change MidiA --> MidiE to Coontroller 16 (decimal) at > measure 1 beat 3. I then saved the "song" as a *.mid file (format 0, I > think), and loaded it into the P2500 with e-loader. > > Since the CC 25 sysex was at tick 0, when I loaded the "song" and when > I reset it by pressing stop twice, MidiA --> MidiE changed to CC 25. > At beat 3, they changed to CC 16 and stayed there. > > I didn't test it with note data, but my guess is that the sysex > strings are so short, they will not cause a glitch during playback > with note data. > > I will upload the test sequence. If you try it, save your multi first- > -or at leaste write down your controller settings so you can change it > back. > > --Steve > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > yeah i'll have to try that alternative!! havent looked in the manual > > yet . . . .
2005-06-19 by malik
steve i have takena look at this and have been trying to figure out a way to do it over the past week or so. even openbed a bok with a small section on sysex but i couldnt figure it out. and i diidnt understand what the emu sysex manual was trying to tell me. is there a website orsomething that can explain it to a complete idiot? :) --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > cool !! sorry for the late reply but im at a public library my > internet is still down. i'm going to print this out and do it when i > get home. thanks a bunch steve youre a life saver. > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote: > > I just did a simple test. You can set up your controllers (MidiA, > > MidiB, MidiC, etc.) in a single sysex chain and embed them in a pattern > > > > See the sysex manual for the details of Parameter Edit/Request if you > > don't already know how to do that. > > > > Here's the test string I used: > > > > F0 18 0F 00 55 01 02 07 03 19 00 08 03 19 00 09 03 19 > > 00 0A 03 19 00 0B 03 19 00 F7 > > > > Parameter 07 03 is MIDI_A_CONTROL. > > I set that to 19 00 [controller 25 in decimal). > > I also did the same for MIDI_B_CONTROL (08 03) --> MIDI_E_CONTROL (0B > > 03). > > > > Using SOnar I placed the sysex bank at measure 1 beat 1 and another > > sysex bank to change MidiA --> MidiE to Coontroller 16 (decimal) at > > measure 1 beat 3. I then saved the "song" as a *.mid file (format 0, I > > think), and loaded it into the P2500 with e-loader. > > > > Since the CC 25 sysex was at tick 0, when I loaded the "song" and when > > I reset it by pressing stop twice, MidiA --> MidiE changed to CC 25. > > At beat 3, they changed to CC 16 and stayed there. > > > > I didn't test it with note data, but my guess is that the sysex > > strings are so short, they will not cause a glitch during playback > > with note data. > > > > I will upload the test sequence. If you try it, save your multi first- > > -or at leaste write down your controller settings so you can change it > > back. > > > > --Steve > > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > > yeah i'll have to try that alternative!! havent looked in the manual > > > yet . . . .
2005-06-20 by steve_the_composer
There are websites that cover sysex. There is one that I stumbled on that I thought was pretty good in terms of explaining it to novices. I will have to look to see if I still have the links. At the present, I do not have the time to write up my own explanation. However, I know sysex has been discussed here, in the P2K group, and in the P2500 group. You might want to search the archives for "sysex." Do you have a computer hooked up to your E-Mu? If so, do you have sequencer software that can send and receive sysex? Finally, did you save your current mutisetup and then try the file I created--crtl-syx0.mid? If so, did it successfully change your controllers as I decribed? --Steve --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > steve i have takena look at this and have been trying to figure out a > way to do it over the past week or so. even openbed a bok with a > small section on sysex but i couldnt figure it out. and i diidnt > understand what the emu sysex manual was trying to tell me. is there > a website orsomething that can explain it to a complete idiot? :)
2005-06-21 by steve_the_composer
The following site might be helpful. It has a simple navigation frame. Click on system exclusive. I think the explanations on this site are really geared toward novices, but impart real understanding. http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tech/midispec.htm If you can handle charts as an explanatory mechanism, the following site may be helpful: http://www.hinton.demon.co.uk/midi/midicode.html#msex Good luck. --Steve --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote: > There are websites that cover sysex. There is one that I stumbled on > that I thought was pretty good in terms of explaining it to novices. I > will have to look to see if I still have the links. > [snip] > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > steve i have takena look at this and have been trying to figure out
> a > > way to do it over the past week or so. even openbed a bok with a > > small section on sysex but i couldnt figure it out. and i diidnt > > understand what the emu sysex manual was trying to tell me. is > there > > a website orsomething that can explain it to a complete idiot? :)
2005-06-22 by malik
i tried downloading a couple times but i wasnt abloe to get it. maybe it's cause im using firefox? --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote:
> There are websites that cover sysex. There is one that I stumbled on > that I thought was pretty good in terms of explaining it to novices. I > will have to look to see if I still have the links. > > At the present, I do not have the time to write up my own explanation. > However, I know sysex has been discussed here, in the P2K group, and > in the P2500 group. You might want to search the archives for "sysex." > > Do you have a computer hooked up to your E-Mu? If so, do you have > sequencer software that can send and receive sysex? > > Finally, did you save your current mutisetup and then try the file I > created--crtl-syx0.mid? If so, did it successfully change your > controllers as I decribed? > > --Steve > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > steve i have takena look at this and have been trying to figure out > a > > way to do it over the past week or so. even openbed a bok with a > > small section on sysex but i couldnt figure it out. and i diidnt > > understand what the emu sysex manual was trying to tell me. is > there > > a website orsomething that can explain it to a complete idiot? :)
2005-06-22 by malik
hehe thats all i understand i think my brain is scared to send it. i'm not sure how to send it. --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote:
> The following messages might also be helpful to understand midi. > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/11438 > > http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/11439 > > I know I did an anatomy of a E-Mu sysex command somewhere, but I > haven' found it yet. It went something like this: > > Open Remote Control Session: > F0 18 0F 00 55 40 10 F7 > > F0 = "Hey! Listen up everyone! There's system exclusive data coming." > 18 = "It's just for gear manufactured by E-Mu" > 0F = "It's specifically for E-Mu's Proteus Family" > 00 = "And I'm only talkin' to those devices who have their sysex ID > set to 00." > > etc. > > Hope this helps
2005-09-02 by malik
i think i'm finaly getting it. i have a trigger button set to channel 14b on the mp-7 and i want to use that button to send a message to midiox's translation map. so i have the trnslation map open and im defining a mapping. input channel 14 the mesage type is note on. note is E4 so i'm assumming that that's not 41 so i have the min and max note number to 41. i have velocity set to -1 on min and max wich in midiox means any. i set output channel to 1 since im not exactly sure what channel to put it to yet but that's no big concern for me right now. i know this is a sysex message but the book tells me to "select c00=80, cc32=00,(dec) then send a Program Change command corresponding to the multisetup you wish to select" sould i set the event type to sysex or program change? --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> wrote:
> > The folks at E-Mu made it easy for you. You can set it up on ONE > PAGE in the E-Mu event editor. > > 1. Go to the event editor, insert a prog event. > 2. That's it!!! > > m = msb = most significant byte = E-Mu ROM ID > l = lsb = least significant byte = E-Mu ROM Bank > prog = program change = E-Mu Patch Number. > > msb/ROM ID can be gotten by pressing audition. > > To switch multisetups, use msb = 80, lsb = 0. (Its in the manual > under Restoring multisetups.) > > Hope this helps.
2005-09-02 by malik
p.s. i have two pictures i tried to upload but it appears this group is out of space for shots of the dialouge please go to http://spaces.msn.com/members/moonbase3/PersonalSpace.aspx? _c01_photoalbum=showdefault&_c02_owner=1&_c=photoalbum you're prolly gonna have to copy and paste that into your browser. --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > i think i'm finaly getting it. > > i have a trigger button set to channel 14b on the mp-7 and i want > to use that button to send a message to midiox's translation map. > > so i have the trnslation map open and im defining a mapping. > input channel 14 the mesage type is note on. note is E4 so i'm > assumming that that's not 41 so i have the min and max note number > to 41. i have velocity set to -1 on min and max wich in midiox means > any. > > i set output channel to 1 since im not exactly sure what channel to
> put it to yet but that's no big concern for me right now. > i know this is a sysex message but the book tells me to "select > c00=80, cc32=00,(dec) then send a Program Change command > corresponding to the multisetup you wish to select" > > sould i set the event type to sysex or program change? > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> > wrote: > > > > The folks at E-Mu made it easy for you. You can set it up on ONE > > PAGE in the E-Mu event editor. > > > > 1. Go to the event editor, insert a prog event. > > 2. That's it!!! > > > > m = msb = most significant byte = E-Mu ROM ID > > l = lsb = least significant byte = E-Mu ROM Bank > > prog = program change = E-Mu Patch Number. > > > > msb/ROM ID can be gotten by pressing audition. > > > > To switch multisetups, use msb = 80, lsb = 0. (Its in the manual > > under Restoring multisetups.) > > > > Hope this helps.
2005-09-02 by Aaron Eppolito
TinyURL is your friend. Your pictures: http://tinyurl.com/dmgdq -Aaron PS. your original question: bank selects and program changes are NOT sysex. Bank select is a controller message and program change is a program change message. --- malik <malik_martin@...> wrote: > p.s. i have two pictures i tried to upload but it appears this group > is out of space for shots of the dialouge please go to > http://spaces.msn.com/members/moonbase3/PersonalSpace.aspx? > _c01_photoalbum=showdefault&_c02_owner=1&_c=photoalbum > > you're prolly gonna have to copy and paste that into your browser. > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > i think i'm finaly getting it. > > > > i have a trigger button set to channel 14b on the mp-7 and i want > > to use that button to send a message to midiox's translation map. > > > > so i have the trnslation map open and im defining a mapping. > > input channel 14 the mesage type is note on. note is E4 so i'm > > assumming that that's not 41 so i have the min and max note number > > to 41. i have velocity set to -1 on min and max wich in midiox > means > > any. > > > > i set output channel to 1 since im not exactly sure what channel > to > > put it to yet but that's no big concern for me right now. > > i know this is a sysex message but the book tells me to "select > > c00=80, cc32=00,(dec) then send a Program Change command > > corresponding to the multisetup you wish to select" > > > > sould i set the event type to sysex or program change? > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@p...> > > wrote: > > > > > > The folks at E-Mu made it easy for you. You can set it up on ONE > > > PAGE in the E-Mu event editor. > > > > > > 1. Go to the event editor, insert a prog event. > > > 2. That's it!!! > > > > > > m = msb = most significant byte = E-Mu ROM ID > > > l = lsb = least significant byte = E-Mu ROM Bank > > > prog = program change = E-Mu Patch Number. > > > > > > msb/ROM ID can be gotten by pressing audition. > > > > > > To switch multisetups, use msb = 80, lsb = 0. (Its in the manual > > > under Restoring multisetups.) > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > --------------------~--> > Life without art & music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for > Good! > http://us.click.yahoo.com/iuUuID/dnQLAA/n1hLAA/pWZylB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
2005-09-02 by malik
thanks but now i'm lost again. so what kind of message do i send to the mp-7 to change the multisetup? --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote: > TinyURL is your friend. > > Your pictures: > http://tinyurl.com/dmgdq > > -Aaron > > PS. your original question: bank selects and program changes are NOT > sysex. Bank select is a controller message and program change is a > program change message. > > --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > > p.s. i have two pictures i tried to upload but it appears this group > > is out of space for shots of the dialouge please go to > > http://spaces.msn.com/members/moonbase3/PersonalSpace.aspx? > > _c01_photoalbum=showdefault&_c02_owner=1&_c=photoalbum > > > > you're prolly gonna have to copy and paste that into your browser. > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > > i think i'm finaly getting it. > > > > > > i have a trigger button set to channel 14b on the mp-7 and i want > > > to use that button to send a message to midiox's translation map. > > > > > > so i have the trnslation map open and im defining a mapping. > > > input channel 14 the mesage type is note on. note is E4 so i'm > > > assumming that that's not 41 so i have the min and max note number > > > to 41. i have velocity set to -1 on min and max wich in midiox > > means > > > any. > > > > > > i set output channel to 1 since im not exactly sure what channel > > to > > > put it to yet but that's no big concern for me right now. > > > i know this is a sysex message but the book tells me to "select > > > c00=80, cc32=00,(dec) then send a Program Change command > > > corresponding to the multisetup you wish to select" > > > > > > sould i set the event type to sysex or program change? > > > > > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "steve_the_composer" <smw- mail@p...> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > The folks at E-Mu made it easy for you. You can set it up on ONE > > > > PAGE in the E-Mu event editor. > > > > > > > > 1. Go to the event editor, insert a prog event. > > > > 2. That's it!!! > > > > > > > > m = msb = most significant byte = E-Mu ROM ID > > > > l = lsb = least significant byte = E-Mu ROM Bank > > > > prog = program change = E-Mu Patch Number. > > > > > > > > msb/ROM ID can be gotten by pressing audition. > > > > > > > > To switch multisetups, use msb = 80, lsb = 0. (Its in the manual > > > > under Restoring multisetups.) > > > > > > > > Hope this helps. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > --------------------~--> > > Life without art & music? Keep the arts alive today at Network for > > Good! > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/iuUuID/dnQLAA/n1hLAA/pWZylB/TM > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- -~->
> > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
2005-09-02 by Aaron Eppolito
Two controller messages and a program change. B0 00 50 B0 20 00 C0 XX where XX is the number of the multisetup you want to select in hex. Your MIDI program might handle bank select as part of its logical program change mechanism, in which case, you'd just enter the 80,00,XX parts (MSB,LSB,PC). That said, if you're trying this stuff, I'd recommend some reading up on MIDI. This site is so-so, but it's probably most comprehensive: http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tech/midispec.htm -Aaron --- malik <malik_martin@...> wrote: > thanks but now i'm lost again. so what kind of message do i send to > the mp-7 to change the multisetup? >> Bank select is a controller message and program change >> is a program change message. >>> c00=80, cc32=00,(dec) then send a Program Change command >>> corresponding to the multisetup you wish to select" ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
2005-09-02 by malik
thanks been to this site before will try and see if i can learn something this time hehe. i'm goin in circles here... --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote: > Two controller messages and a program change. > > B0 00 50 > B0 20 00 > C0 XX > > where XX is the number of the multisetup you want to select in hex. > > Your MIDI program might handle bank select as part of its logical > program change mechanism, in which case, you'd just enter the 80,00,XX > parts (MSB,LSB,PC). > > That said, if you're trying this stuff, I'd recommend some reading up > on MIDI. This site is so-so, but it's probably most comprehensive: > http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tech/midispec.htm > > -Aaron > > --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > > thanks but now i'm lost again. so what kind of message do i send to
> > the mp-7 to change the multisetup? > > >> Bank select is a controller message and program change > >> is a program change message. > > >>> c00=80, cc32=00,(dec) then send a Program Change command > >>> corresponding to the multisetup you wish to select" > > > > ____________________________________________________ > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
2005-09-02 by malik
in any case it seems i wont be able to use midi- to send this kind of message. well, i could but i wouldnt be able to trigger it via midi. --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "malik" <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > thanks been to this site before will try and see if i can learn > something this time hehe. i'm goin in circles here... > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote: > > Two controller messages and a program change. > > > > B0 00 50 > > B0 20 00 > > C0 XX > > > > where XX is the number of the multisetup you want to select in hex. > > > > Your MIDI program might handle bank select as part of its logical > > program change mechanism, in which case, you'd just enter the > 80,00,XX > > parts (MSB,LSB,PC). > > > > That said, if you're trying this stuff, I'd recommend some reading > up > > on MIDI. This site is so-so, but it's probably most comprehensive: > > http://www.borg.com/~jglatt/tech/midispec.htm > > > > -Aaron > > > > --- malik <malik_martin@h...> wrote: > > > > > thanks but now i'm lost again. so what kind of message do i send
> to > > > the mp-7 to change the multisetup? > > > > >> Bank select is a controller message and program change > > >> is a program change message. > > > > >>> c00=80, cc32=00,(dec) then send a Program Change command > > >>> corresponding to the multisetup you wish to select" > > > > > > > > ____________________________________________________ > > Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page > > http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
2007-05-10 by sp808hack
Could someone please go into a little bit of detail about how to set up the programmable knobs. Heres a list of things I want to do with the. -Adjust the ADSR parameters of the prestets -control the effect parameters i.e feedback, var ect -note ranges, this would be really cool! If any one hasnt thought of this yet imagine the possibilities i.e &(*&king with basslines. I know it has something to do with assigning each knob to the midi addresses of the parameter you want to control, but the manual dosent go into much detail about this. Thanks to you, who ever you will be.
2007-05-10 by scodoha04
Page 144 of the manual. ADSR is default to knobs 5 through 8 already. Your other "wants" I don't think are possible at least directly from the box. Variation of beats or LFO have no modulation destination; sysex has a place for it though as well as changing the highs and lows of keyboard preset assignments. You're looking at learning sysex. The manual for that is in the files section. --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sp808hack" <craigbiz@...> wrote:
> > Could someone please go into a little bit of detail about how to set up > the programmable knobs. Heres a list of things I want to do with the. > > -Adjust the ADSR parameters of the prestets > -control the effect parameters i.e feedback, var ect > -note ranges, this would be really cool! If any one hasnt thought of > this yet imagine the possibilities i.e &(*&king with basslines. > > I know it has something to do with assigning each knob to the midi > addresses of the parameter you want to control, but the manual dosent > go into much detail about this. Thanks to you, who ever you will be. >
2007-05-18 by Dacian Victor
Do any one know how, when you play live, to repeat for a while a part of a song???? thanks //Daci __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2007-05-18 by Paul Nagle
Dacian Victor wrote: > > Do any one know how, when you play live, to repeat for a while a part of a song???? > > What I tend to do is slip into pattern mode at the point I want to repeat. It does this smoothly and you can then tweak the pattern, mute unmute parts and so on. -- Paul --- "Effectus super absolutionem" http://www.JointIntelligenceCommittee.com http://www.myspace.com/jointintelligencecommittee
2007-05-18 by Paul Nagle
I wonder if anyone can help? I asked this on the Proteus 2000 forum but they suggested the expertise was over here. I always have problems with my P25K and patches, the confusion between patches used for patterns, songs and multis. Ideally I'd love a way to tell it to never loads patches for songs or patterns but I don't see a way for that. I tend to use 32 channels - 16 for internal song and pattern stuff, 16 for use with an external sequencer (Sequentix P3). So all I want is to load a multi that contains the 32 channels I'll need for my combined song using both sequencers. Trouble is I frequently make a mistake, load either a song, pattern or multi in the wrong order or save in the wrong order and end up with my multi pointing to the wrong patches. My problems are compounded by the fact that the P25K defaults to saving at the last position it saved to, not the last location loaded from but I guess that's just the way it is... :( How does anyone else deal with this? Also, I can change multis using remote bank select but this only seems to respond to MIDI channel 1, which is weird. Perhaps because there is no "multi control" channel that I can see. I keep almost giving up on the P25K sequencer but it's so damn useful that I stick with it. I've read the manual and it seems to imply that songs/patterns only load patches for which tracks are assigned - but I don't find this to be true, unless I'm doing something wrong? Iuse 1-16A for the internal sequencer, 1-16B for external. Any tips gratefully received, Paul
2007-05-24 by gonzinigonz
Can you not insert a patch change message in the seq on each channel or globally from one track to setup all your patches for the seq? I always used to insert a bar for this purpose at the start of a track so all the correct patches get called up. Obviously you will have to keep the correct patches saved to the same memory locations for this to work. I guess this is what you mean?! --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Paul Nagle <paul@...> wrote: > > I wonder if anyone can help? I asked this on the Proteus 2000 forum but > they suggested the expertise was over here. > > I always have problems with my P25K and patches, the confusion between > patches used for patterns, songs and multis. Ideally I'd love a way to > tell it to never loads patches for songs or patterns but I don't see a > way for that. > > I tend to use 32 channels - 16 for internal song and pattern stuff, 16 > for use with an external sequencer (Sequentix P3). So all I want is to > load a multi that contains the 32 channels I'll need for my combined > song using both sequencers. Trouble is I frequently make a mistake, load > either a song, pattern or multi in the wrong order or save in the wrong > order and end up with my multi pointing to the wrong patches. My > problems are compounded by the fact that the P25K defaults to saving at > the last position it saved to, not the last location loaded from but I > guess that's just the way it is... :( > > How does anyone else deal with this? > > Also, I can change multis using remote bank select but this only seems > to respond to MIDI channel 1, which is weird. Perhaps because there is > no "multi control" channel that I can see. I keep almost giving up on > the P25K sequencer but it's so damn useful that I stick with it. I've
> read the manual and it seems to imply that songs/patterns only load > patches for which tracks are assigned - but I don't find this to be > true, unless I'm doing something wrong? Iuse 1-16A for the internal > sequencer, 1-16B for external. > > Any tips gratefully received, > > Paul >
2007-10-31 by sp808hack
I've been through this in the forums and in the manual over and over and still can figure out how to assign the fx parameters to the programmable knobs. I just want to be able to play the fx real time without having to go into those bullshit menus and use the bullshit jog wheel.
2007-10-31 by malik
then you should have bought VSTs LOL! --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sp808hack" <craigbiz@...> wrote: > > I've been through this in the forums and in the manual over and over > and still can figure out how to assign the fx parameters to the > programmable knobs. I just want to be able to play the fx real time > without having to go into those bullshit menus and use the bullshit jog > wheel. >
2007-11-01 by steve_the_composer
I sense a bit of frustration and want to offer an alternative route to achieve effects. Most people using the P2K synth engine think only of FXA and FXB as effects. However, if you think of the synth engine itself, all kinds of realtime effects can be created using the 4 x 4 knobs. Admittedly it takes a bit of programming. I seem to recall discussions here about Wah-Wah effects, Fret-slide effects, etc. So far as I can recall, assigning the 4 x 4 knobs to FXA/FXB parameters cannot be done. (Its been a while, but I may be wrong.) --Steve --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sp808hack" <craigbiz@...> wrote: > > I've been through this in the forums and in the manual over and over > and still can figure out how to assign the fx parameters to the > programmable knobs. I just want to be able to play the fx real time > without having to go into those bullshit menus and use the bullshit jog > wheel. >
2007-11-01 by craig ward
Cheers man, thats a different way of thinking about it. I'll give it a go. If anyone else has a way of adjusting the A and B effects processors with the knobs though that'd be awsome. PS you were correct about the frustration. To: xl7@yahoogroups.comFrom: smw-mail@...: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 02:51:52 +0000Subject: [xl7] Re: programmable knobs I sense a bit of frustration and want to offer an alternative route to achieve effects. Most people using the P2K synth engine think only of FXA and FXB as effects. However, if you think of the synth engine itself, all kinds of realtime effects can be created using the 4 x 4 knobs. Admittedly it takes a bit of programming.I seem to recall discussions here about Wah-Wah effects, Fret-slide effects, etc.So far as I can recall, assigning the 4 x 4 knobs to FXA/FXB parameters cannot be done. (Its been a while, but I may be wrong.)--Steve--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sp808hack" <craigbiz@...> wrote:>> I've been through this in the forums and in the manual over and over > and still can figure out how to assign the fx parameters to the > programmable knobs. I just want to be able to play the fx real time > without having to go into those bullshit menus and use the bullshit jog > wheel.> _________________________________________________________________ What are you waiting for? Join Lavalife FREE http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30288&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Join_free_OCT07&_m=EXT [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2007-11-05 by Aaron Eppolito
FX patchcords are in the PRESET CORDS section, not the LAYER CORDS page. Simply hit the cords button twice. That said, I believe that only works if you're in preset FX mode, not master FX mode. Remember that the XL-7 is inferior to other synths in this manner � you only have 4 busses to choose from and you can't choose the send amount per channel/preset. Put another way, the sends are always 100% to the bus, and the each of the 4 busses has a wet/dry mix. To use this sort of setup, you have to create four different FX "amounts", then choose per channel which of those four amounts you want. -Aaron
----- Original Message ---- From: craig ward <craigbiz@hotmail.com> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2007 10:01:28 PM Subject: RE: [xl7] Re: programmable knobs Cheers man, thats a different way of thinking about it. I'll give it a go. If anyone else has a way of adjusting the A and B effects processors with the knobs though that'd be awsome. PS you were correct about the frustration. To: xl7@yahoogroups.comFrom: smw-mail@...: Thu, 1 Nov 2007 02:51:52 +0000Subject: [xl7] Re: programmable knobs I sense a bit of frustration and want to offer an alternative route to achieve effects. Most people using the P2K synth engine think only of FXA and FXB as effects. However, if you think of the synth engine itself, all kinds of realtime effects can be created using the 4 x 4 knobs. Admittedly it takes a bit of programming.I seem to recall discussions here about Wah-Wah effects, Fret-slide effects, etc.So far as I can recall, assigning the 4 x 4 knobs to FXA/FXB parameters cannot be done. (Its been a while, but I may be wrong.)--Steve--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "sp808hack" <craigbiz@...> wrote:>> I've been through this in the forums and in the manual over and over > and still can figure out how to assign the fx parameters to the > programmable knobs. I just want to be able to play the fx real time > without having to go into those bullshit menus and use the bullshit jog > wheel.> __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]