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Anybody play free-improv on their Command Station?

Anybody play free-improv on their Command Station?

2004-08-16 by paolovalladolid

Today I used my XL7 for the first time with my free-improv
electro-acoustic group (the type of free improv played by Derek
Bailey, Fred Frith, etc.).  I mostly used arp presets, hitting the tap
tempo button to match the improvisations of my bandmates, tweaking
knobs, etc.   A simple approach, but it seemed to work.  I also tried
a bts patch but it didn't allow enough "room" to improvise.

Any thoughts from others doing this kind of activity would be appreciated.

Paolo

Re: [xl7] Anybody play free-improv on their Command Station?

2004-08-16 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

I am surprised you didn't use X-MIX. I can improvise for hours using X-MIX, although it would be harder if the others are leading and you are following. If I am leading, I can do things like, just before I switch into a random bassline, tell the others to lay out for a half bar until they hear the new bassline, analyze the key and then come in. Works pretty well that way. Once the groove is in place, I will randomly move through presets using X-MIX and then bring in a part very quietly (or louder on my headphones but not out front) and listen hard and fast. If it doesn't sound good, or I realize it is in the wrong key, I will just immediately nix it--such doesn't usually take me more than 1/2 a bar so no actual damage is done. I will basically flip the channels fast until something sounds right and then lay it in. Then I can concentrate on either the new line or an older one and start changing the patches or tweaking them a little at a time before moving on to others to tweak. When it all gets stale, then I call a moment to the mates and move for another bassline then repeat . . .
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  Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 1:08 AM
  Subject: [xl7] Anybody play free-improv on their Command Station?


  Today I used my XL7 for the first time with my free-improv
  electro-acoustic group (the type of free improv played by Derek
  Bailey, Fred Frith, etc.).  I mostly used arp presets, hitting the tap
  tempo button to match the improvisations of my bandmates, tweaking
  knobs, etc.   A simple approach, but it seemed to work.  I also tried
  a bts patch but it didn't allow enough "room" to improvise.

  Any thoughts from others doing this kind of activity would be appreciated.

  Paolo


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Re: Anybody play free-improv on their Command Station?

2004-08-16 by paolovalladolid

X-MIX is yet another feature I wasn't even aware of.  My study of the
XL7 documentation has been focused on the bound manual - I hadn't paid
much attention to the addenda docs, except when the manual told me to
try something and it didn't work as written. ;)`Dunno why I surprised
you - I never passed myself off as anything other than a beginner here.

Thanks for telling me about X-MIX! I'll try it ASAP.  Because of the
focus of our trio, I'll emphasize patterns that use symmetrical scales
 (diminished, whole-tone, etc.) or are not specifically pitched (eg.
percussion).  It helps a lot that the other two players use electric
fretless instruments (upright bass and violin).

Paolo

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@h...> wrote:
> I am surprised you didn't use X-MIX. I can improvise for hours using
X-MIX, although it would be harder if the others are leading and you
are following. If I am leading, I can do things like, just before I
switch into a random bassline, tell the others to lay out for a half
bar until they hear the new bassline, analyze the key and then come
in. Works pretty well that way. Once the groove is in place, I will
randomly move through presets using X-MIX and then bring in a part
very quietly (or louder on my headphones but not out front) and listen
hard and fast. If it doesn't sound good, or I realize it is in the
wrong key, I will just immediately nix it--such doesn't usually take
me more than 1/2 a bar so no actual damage is done. I will basically
flip the channels fast until something sounds right and then lay it
in. Then I can concentrate on either the new line or an older one and
start changing the patches or tweaking them a little at a time before
moving on to others to tweak. When it all gets stale, then I call a
moment to the mates and move for another bassline then repeat . . .
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: paolovalladolid 
>   To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 1:08 AM
>   Subject: [xl7] Anybody play free-improv on their Command Station?
> 
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>   Today I used my XL7 for the first time with my free-improv
>   electro-acoustic group (the type of free improv played by Derek
>   Bailey, Fred Frith, etc.).  I mostly used arp presets, hitting the tap
>   tempo button to match the improvisations of my bandmates, tweaking
>   knobs, etc.   A simple approach, but it seemed to work.  I also tried
>   a bts patch but it didn't allow enough "room" to improvise.
> 
>   Any thoughts from others doing this kind of activity would be
appreciated.
> 
>   Paolo
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Re: [xl7] Re: Anybody play free-improv on their Command Station?

2004-08-16 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Probably a good idea to get the latest manual revision and have that 
printed out (about $20 at kinkos).  Besides all the new features being 
integrated into one document, the overall organization is way, way better 
IMO.  Makes much more sense, and a lot less repetition.

rEalm




X-MIX is yet another feature I wasn't even aware of.  My study of the
XL7 documentation has been focused on the bound manual - I hadn't paid
much attention to the addenda docs, except when the manual told me to
try something and it didn't work as written. ;) 


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Re: Anybody play free-improv on their Command Station?

2004-08-16 by infradead

it is so worth the money to have kinko's or some other copy shop 
print and spiral bind the addendum..  having hardcopy to read is 
awesome!

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "paolovalladolid" <paolovalladolid@y...> 
wrote:
> X-MIX is yet another feature I wasn't even aware of.  My study of 
the
> XL7 documentation has been focused on the bound manual - I hadn't 
paid
> much attention to the addenda docs, except when the manual told me 
to
> try something and it didn't work as written. ;)`Dunno why I 
surprised
> you - I never passed myself off as anything other than a beginner 
here.
> 
> Thanks for telling me about X-MIX! I'll try it ASAP.  Because of 
the
> focus of our trio, I'll emphasize patterns that use symmetrical 
scales
>  (diminished, whole-tone, etc.) or are not specifically pitched 
(eg.
> percussion).  It helps a lot that the other two players use 
electric
> fretless instruments (upright bass and violin).
> 
> Paolo
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@h...> 
wrote:
> > I am surprised you didn't use X-MIX. I can improvise for hours 
using
> X-MIX, although it would be harder if the others are leading and 
you
> are following. If I am leading, I can do things like, just before I
> switch into a random bassline, tell the others to lay out for a 
half
> bar until they hear the new bassline, analyze the key and then come
> in. Works pretty well that way. Once the groove is in place, I will
> randomly move through presets using X-MIX and then bring in a part
> very quietly (or louder on my headphones but not out front) and 
listen
> hard and fast. If it doesn't sound good, or I realize it is in the
> wrong key, I will just immediately nix it--such doesn't usually 
take
> me more than 1/2 a bar so no actual damage is done. I will 
basically
> flip the channels fast until something sounds right and then lay it
> in. Then I can concentrate on either the new line or an older one 
and
> start changing the patches or tweaking them a little at a time 
before
> moving on to others to tweak. When it all gets stale, then I call a
> moment to the mates and move for another bassline then repeat . . .
> >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: paolovalladolid 
> >   To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
> >   Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 1:08 AM
> >   Subject: [xl7] Anybody play free-improv on their Command 
Station?
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> >   Today I used my XL7 for the first time with my free-improv
> >   electro-acoustic group (the type of free improv played by Derek
> >   Bailey, Fred Frith, etc.).  I mostly used arp presets, hitting 
the tap
> >   tempo button to match the improvisations of my bandmates, 
tweaking
> >   knobs, etc.   A simple approach, but it seemed to work.  I 
also tried
> >   a bts patch but it didn't allow enough "room" to improvise.
> > 
> >   Any thoughts from others doing this kind of activity would be
> appreciated.
> > 
> >   Paolo
> > 
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