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More Emu X thoughts

2004-06-01 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Well, I had some more time to play with the Emulator X over the holiday 
weekend, so here's some new comments on it.  First of all, I have to say I 
reallly like the "tree" concept. This is basically the Windows Explorer 
type view in the left pane that I mention last time.  It really lets you 
try out different samples quickly, so going through the extensive sample 
collection they give you isn't so bad.

Speaking of samples, I had a go at using the new file convertor app that 
comes with the X.  This is used to import sample formats from other 
samplers, ie Akai,Giga, Soundfont, etc.  I had an old Akai S1000 sample 
disc laying around I hadn't used in years, and gave the convertor go at 
that.  Some things like the drum loops transferred just fine.  But most of 
the more complex multisampled patches failed the conversion process.  Oh 
well, the samples weren't that good anyway.

Also, I could have sworn I read that Emu X supported REX files, but I had 
no luck importing those either. Not a biggy as it's easier to handle those 
in SX anyway.

The synth section yielded a surprise I didn't realize, until I had time to 
read the manual.  4 of the filter types are user defineable.  That's right 
you can make your own Z-plane filter.  It's not completely configurable, 
you need to start out with the appropriate type of filter for your needs 
(EQ Morph, EQ + LP Morph, EQ + Expression, and Peak Shelf Morph)  to get 
the best results.  Still, fun stuff, you can in effect create your own 
formant filters.

I also had more time to go through the Preset Banks that come with the Emu 
X.  Kind of funny hearing so many samples I've used in my songs, as a lot 
of these straight from the Proteus ROMs, I think.  This is especially true 
of the Proteus Composer bank, go figure.  Many of the effect banks are 
drum kits and loops, all of which sounded good if you're into that sort of 
thing.  My favorite of the banks is the Hip Hop Producer.  This ones has a 
lot of good stabs and drums, and just browsing the samples gave me a ton 
of ideas for my own songs.  Not sure how much overlap this one has with 
the Mo'Phatt soundset, as I don't own that ROM.  Good stuff though.

The Proteus Composer bank is pretty much the P2500 sound set from what I 
can tell.  The Saint Thomas Strings bank sounds very good too, it'd be my 
first choice if I needed some realistic strings in a song I was working 
on.  The Studio Grand bank I criticized before as being too light 
sounding.  I still feel this is true somewhat, though some of the presets 
like Baby Grand sounded much better to me on a second listen.  They still 
don't sound as realistic as The Grand to me, but in the middle of a dense 
mix, I bet they sound better.

One thing that sort of surprises me with this software, is that you have 
to have one of the DAS systems installed to run ithe Emulator X, but 
there's no way to access any of those cards' effects from within the 
sampler itself.  Considering that everything else is identical to the 
Proteus synths and the Emulator samplers, this seems a shame.  Yeah you 
could set up a send in the PatchMix DSP panel, but it would be so much 
quicker if you could do it while crafting a sample.  Lack of Emu's 
excellent arppegiators is surprising too.

Also, there were a few times, when the sampler's internal "tree" would 
disappear, and I would have to relaunch the app to get it back.  I could 
drag and drop new banks into the upper pane and the sampler's multi page 
would show the new samples, but I couldn't see anything in the tree view, 
and thus was not able to edit the presets, or scroll through them.

One final niggle (just to nitpick), but many of the presets were so quiet 
compared to my other studio gear, that for awhile I thought something was 
wrong with the sampler or the soundcard.  They set up so much internal 
headroom padding in the preferences, that you can barely hear your current 
Preset.  Once I maxed this setting out at 12dB, things were much better, 
though still on the quiet side.  On one hand I can see the reason for 
this, in a complex sequence utilizing many Emulator X channels, you want 
to make sure you have enough head room to avoid clipping.  Though I 
personallly found that for single Preset sounds, this was much too low. 
Not a biggy as it is user adjustable to some extent.

Appended wishlist:
- MIDI Learn mode for the knobs, with template save.
- Onscreen Keyboard really needs to be bigger, and show you what keys 
you're pressing in real-time.  Just makes setting up keymapping so much 
easier.
- Resizeable main window.
- Way to access DSP card effects.
- A way to zoom vertically in Voices and Zones view, a lot of screen space 
is wasted with low sample count presets.

rEalm
(BTW, Sean just sent me a new Studio Grand version too, so I'll report 
back on that later)

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Re: [xl7] Re: More Emu X thoughts

2004-06-01 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

I DL'd them just in case. 

rEalm





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06/01/2004 07:46 AM
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I thought I saw some software updates at emu.  Did you have to upload 
those or did yours come with the newer software?  Just curious.

Thanks for the reviews.

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Re: More Emu X thoughts

2004-06-01 by paolovalladolid

Rumor has it that the card that comes with Emulator X doesn't 
actually offload the CPU like the cards from Creamware cards, TC 
Electronic Powercore, etc.  The card is actually just another PCI 
audio interface (which isn't necessarily bad).

Can you confirm?

Thanks for the reviews, even if it looks like I'll never be able to 
use this product on my machine (a Mac).

Paolo

Re: [xl7] Re: More Emu X thoughts

2004-06-02 by Aaron Eppolito

Effects are offloaded to the card (and you get a lot of them too I
think).  SRCs and filters are not (i.e. they run native).  I'm pretty
sure that's right...

-Aaron

--- paolovalladolid <paolovalladolid@...> wrote:
> Rumor has it that the card that comes with Emulator X doesn't 
> actually offload the CPU like the cards from Creamware cards, TC 
> Electronic Powercore, etc.  The card is actually just another PCI 
> audio interface (which isn't necessarily bad).
> 
> Can you confirm?
> 
> Thanks for the reviews, even if it looks like I'll never be able to 
> use this product on my machine (a Mac).
> 
> Paolo


	
		
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Re: [xl7] Re: More Emu X thoughts

2004-06-02 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

The only DSP functions the card provides are for the effects, everything 
else is handled natively.

rEalm





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Rumor has it that the card that comes with Emulator X doesn't 
actually offload the CPU like the cards from Creamware cards, TC 
Electronic Powercore, etc.  The card is actually just another PCI 
audio interface (which isn't necessarily bad).

Can you confirm?

Thanks for the reviews, even if it looks like I'll never be able to 
use this product on my machine (a Mac).

Paolo




 
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Re: [xl7] Re: More Emu X thoughts

2004-06-02 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Yes, as for the number of effects, it entirely depends on what effects you 
use.  You can only get 2 reverbs before you run out of DSP power, but you 
can also get 20+ 3 band EQ's.

rEalm





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Effects are offloaded to the card (and you get a lot of them too I
think).  SRCs and filters are not (i.e. they run native).  I'm pretty
sure that's right...

-Aaron

--- paolovalladolid <paolovalladolid@...> wrote:
> Rumor has it that the card that comes with Emulator X doesn't 
> actually offload the CPU like the cards from Creamware cards, TC 
> Electronic Powercore, etc.  The card is actually just another PCI 
> audio interface (which isn't necessarily bad).
> 
> Can you confirm?
> 
> Thanks for the reviews, even if it looks like I'll never be able to 
> use this product on my machine (a Mac).
> 
> Paolo


 
 
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