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2004-03-09 by smwither2002
After using my XL for 2 years I'm diving back into the manual to see what other possibilities I haven't checked out... I think one of the machine's best strong points is the patchcords. I've just scratched the surface with these, I'm sure. Does anyone have any outrageous or creative patchcord settings they'd like to share?
2004-03-09 by Turby Schmidt
we talked about uploading patches to this group, one of the problems was, that patches work with there respective roms [so we should organize the patches sections divided by roms] but a lot of patches use layers from different roms, so they are only shareable if both have the same roms [so we should exclude patches with layers from diferent roms] further i thought to avoid loosing our favourit presets, the single patches should be dumped from the same user locacion, for example 127/3, so the downloaders check them out, if they like the patch they can save them to another locacion... it seems to be important that the dump locacion are mentioned i vote for patch sharing! but there isnt enough storage place in the files section, we could check out if there is anything that isnt necesary... what roms do you have? >From: "smwither2002" <smwither2002@...> > >After using my XL for 2 years I'm diving back into the manual to see >what other possibilities I haven't checked out... I think one of the >machine's best strong points is the patchcords. I've just scratched >the surface with these, I'm sure. Does anyone have any outrageous or >creative patchcord settings they'd like to share? > _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
2004-03-09 by smwither2002
--I was thinking more about generic things, like say Pink Noise>Lag0>4xgain>Sretrig or something... --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Turby Schmidt" <trabantmusic@h...> wrote: > > we talked about uploading patches to this group, > one of the problems was, that patches work with there respective roms > [so we should organize the patches sections divided by roms] > but a lot of patches use layers from different roms, so they are only > shareable if both have the same roms [so we should exclude patches with > layers from diferent roms] > further i thought > to avoid loosing our favourit presets, the single patches should be dumped > from the same user locacion, for example 127/3, so the downloaders check > them out, if they like the patch they can save them to another locacion... > it seems to be important that the dump locacion are mentioned > > i vote for patch sharing! but there isnt enough storage place in the files > section, > we could check out if there is anything that isnt necesary... > > what roms do you have? > > > >From: "smwither2002" <smwither2002@y...> > > > > >After using my XL for 2 years I'm diving back into the manual to see > >what other possibilities I haven't checked out... I think one of the > >machine's best strong points is the patchcords. I've just scratched > >the surface with these, I'm sure. Does anyone have any outrageous or
> >creative patchcord settings they'd like to share? > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus
2004-03-09 by steve_the_composer
I agree that patchcords (layer level and preset level) offer tremendous potential for preset design. (Maybe I'm a tad biased because I was raised on the Model 900-series Moog.) I believe users have posted tips and examples of various things with patchcord effects. I know I posted some. Not sure if any are outrageous or creative. I've been building a killer Sax Preset that allows me to use buttons and pedals to all kinds of things. Eg, button octave doubler. --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "smwither2002" <smwither2002@y...> wrote:
> After using my XL for 2 years I'm diving back into the manual to > see what other possibilities I haven't checked out... I think one > of the machine's best strong points is the patchcords. I've just > scratched the surface with these, I'm sure. Does anyone have any > outrageous or creative patchcord settings they'd like to share?
2004-03-09 by steve_the_composer
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "smwither2002" <smwither2002@y...> wrote: > --I was thinking more about generic things, like say Pink > Noise>Lag0>4xgain>Sretrig or something... Now that you mention it (generic things), I think I did a tutorial on how to create/borrow an automatic wah effect. If I can find it, I'll post the link.
2004-03-10 by Stu
What button(s) are you using for this? Thanks, Stu |I've been building a killer Sax Preset that allows me to use buttons |and pedals to all kinds of things. Eg, button octave doubler.
2004-03-10 by steve_the_composer
Thanks for asking, Stu. I hope the following is useful.
I am using an ART X-15 [aka Ultrafoot]. It has 2 assignable CC
pedals and 10 assignable on/off CC [0/127] buttons. The bypass
switch can also be programmed as an on/off button.
For the octave doubler in my sax preset, I copied L1->L2 and designed
the basic switch as follows. I also made a bunch of other changes to
L1 and L2, such as glide and responsiveness to portamento on.
OCTAVE DOUBLER SWITCH:
(1) Art X-15 button 10 assigned to CC83.
(2) E-Mu MidiP assigned to CC83
(3) L2 patchcord # 1 = MidiP-->Pitch +076
Presently, I do not compensate for both L1 and L2 being at full
volume when CC83/MidiP = 0. As a result, CC83/midiP = 0 seems to
sound a little louder than CC83/MidiP = 127. To compensate I might
use another patchcord to lower the volume slightly on L2 when
CC83/MidiP = 0.
However, I also use the pedals to create various sounds/effects. In
a certain range, I have a penetrating psuedo-baritone-sax sound with
both L1 and L2 at full volume.
CC/PEDAL CONTROL OF FILTER PARAMS:
(1) Left pedal assigned to CC71/MidiB --> 'FiltRes +85
(2) Right pedal assigned to CC74/MidiA --> FiltFreq +100
Around 1969/1970 I put a pickup on my alto sax and ran it through a
wah-wah pedal. The above gives me similar performance functionality
with the Casio DH-100 [digital horn].
Before using this pedal control setup with the E-Mu, I used it with
sax patches and drum kits on Roland's M-GS64 (Sound Canvas
architecture rom sample player).
Part of my fantasy design (ie, future development) includes velocity
switching and aftertouch control. The aftertouch control was great on
the VZ-8m; haven't attempted it on the E-Mu, yet.
OTHER BUTTON/SWITCH ASSIGNMENTS:
(1) Portomento/Glide:
(1a) Portomento switch on DH-100/CC65 = Footswitch 2
(1b) L1 Foot2FF-->Glide +35
(1c) L2 Foot2FF-->Glide +26
NOTE: I tend to use the portomento [glide] when CC83=127 (root plus
octave above). I just like the sound of the two different glide rates
with the two octaves. Just my personal performance preference with
the sax preset.
(2) Sustain:
(2a) ART X-15 button 8 = CC64 = E-Mu Footswitch 1
(2b) L1/L2 FootSw1-->KeySus +100
========================================================
As I have said before, the E-Mu architecture is extremely flexible. I
loved it in the Proteus 1, and the expanded functionality in the P2k
synth engine is great.
I agree that patchcords offer amazing potential. The above are just
a few patchcord performance applications I have designed. (Thanks to
those who implemented the expanded set of sources, destinations, etc.)
Now that E-Mu hardware is officially legacy gear, I hope we will see
the limits of the amazing P2K sound architecture pushed even
further. I look forward to seeing what others are doing with
patchcords.
"Creativity is the soul of consciousness."
--Dr. Steve
"Music is the best."
--FZ
"sine qua non"
--some old Latin dude
"Music is the highest expression of consciousness. It is the sine
qua non of existence itself. Long live the harmony of the spheres--
from the smallest particles of sound to the larger structure of the
universe."
|8-[>
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <routerman@z...> wrote:> What button(s) are you using for this? > > Thanks, > > Stu > > > |I've been building a killer Sax Preset that allows me to use > buttons and pedals to all kinds of things. Eg, button octave > doubler.
2004-03-10 by Stu
What button(s) are you using for this? Thanks, Stu |I've been building a killer Sax Preset that allows me to use buttons |and pedals to all kinds of things. Eg, button octave doubler.
2004-03-10 by Stu
Sorry Steve (and everyone else!) Outlook decided to send this message twice for some reason ;/ Stu
-----Original Message----- From: Stu [mailto:routerman@...] Sent: 10 March 2004 18:44 To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [xl7] Re: Creative patchcords What button(s) are you using for this? Thanks, Stu |I've been building a killer Sax Preset that allows me to use buttons |and pedals to all kinds of things. Eg, button octave doubler. Yahoo! Groups Links
2004-03-12 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
There's a hug shortage of User info on this really. I'm going to try and
get something together soon though, just been a bit busy lately.
rEalm
smwither2002 <smwither2002@...>
03/09/2004 12:48 PM
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