Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Yeah, I was on both lists actually, and although I sold my mc505 (and the 
sp808) more than a year ago, I still moderate and frequent that list.

As for your question, I was going to ask the very same thing tomorrow! 
Multisetups seem....well pointless really.  Maybe it's just me too?  I was 
using just one Multisetup for everything, and then when I started hooking 
the XL-7 up to a Micro Sync so I could integrate it with my tables, I made 
another one that sets the tempo to EXT, and turns off the MIDI Thrus too. 
But switching between Multis was causing me problems, in that the current 
Presets are saved with a Multi too.  So what ever Pattern you were on, the 
presets from it would save as the defaults when you laoded the multi.  Not 
a bigd eal but I wold forget to power off tehn on after loading the multi, 
so my patterns were playing with the wrong presets.  My fault really, but 
now I just set the tempo to EXT manually and don't mess with the multis. 
If they saved only global, arp, and MIDI menu settings it would be better 
I think.

Anyone else got a use for Multi's?

rEalm




Can you please tell me the most useful purpases of the multisetups as I 
don't see any purpose!

I remember you from the MC505 or SP808 group isn't it?

Thanks for your refreshing answer! I just have the box 2 days, worked 
throught the complete manual, am an absolute expert, but still have 
no clue about the multi's!

BTW: I also sold the 505 as I still think the sounds are crap (just 
as the RM1x, excellent sequencer howver). Still own the 808Ex for 
excellent effects and vocoder.

I just posted another question. Wanna give that one a try?

Thanks!

Richard

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Yeah, I was on both lists actually, and although I sold my mc505 
(and the 
> sp808) more than a year ago, I still moderate and frequent that 
list.
> 
> As for your question, I was going to ask the very same thing 
tomorrow! 
> Multisetups seem....well pointless really.  Maybe it's just me 
too?  I was 
> using just one Multisetup for everything, and then when I started 
hooking 
> the XL-7 up to a Micro Sync so I could integrate it with my tables, 
I made 
> another one that sets the tempo to EXT, and turns off the MIDI 
Thrus too. 
> But switching between Multis was causing me problems, in that the 
current 
> Presets are saved with a Multi too.  So what ever Pattern you were 
on, the 
> presets from it would save as the defaults when you laoded the 
multi.  Not 
> a bigd eal but I wold forget to power off tehn on after loading the 
multi, 
> so my patterns were playing with the wrong presets.  My fault 
really, but 
> now I just set the tempo to EXT manually and don't mess with the 
multis. 
> If they saved only global, arp, and MIDI menu settings it would be 
better 
> I think.
> 
> Anyone else got a use for Multi's?
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Can you please tell me the most useful purpases of the multisetups 
as I 
> don't see any purpose!
> 
> I remember you from the MC505 or SP808 group isn't it?

BTW: I also sold the 505 as I still think the sounds are crap (just as the 
RM1x, excellent sequencer howver). Still own the 808Ex for excellent 
effects and vocoder.

>>>Yeah, the mc505 is an excellent sequencer, but the expandability issue 
kept me from buying another one when I had the money.  Great sounds, but 
hundreds of User patches later I was just not getting inspired by it 
anymore.  Beside, without my XL-7, I wouldn't be able to bug the hell out 
of Aaron and Scott and any of the other Emu techs :) 

I agree about the sp808 too.  For the money that little beast has some 
killer effects, those alone are worth the price of the box IMO.  That by 
far was the hardest piece of gear for me to sell, never crashed on me once 
either!  One of the most underrated pieces of gear ever. <<<

I just posted another question. Wanna give that one a try?

>>> Already got it :) <<<

rEalm

Yeah, I know what they save, but why?  In the situation you describe, 
couldn't you do the same thing with a Pattern?  User arps and tunings 
aren't saved with a multi, so setting up a "template" pattern would do the 
same thing, no?

rEalm



A multisetup is generally used to bring up in an instance, favorite 
patches that make up songs.  Channels 1-16a and 1-16b all have the 
presets desired on the individual channels.  All other information 
such as panning setpoints, volume, arp assignments, global 
information.......etc, are all saved as well and recalled with the 
push of a button.

A multisetup is generally used to bring up in an instance, favorite 
patches that make up songs.  Channels 1-16a and 1-16b all have the 
presets desired on the individual channels.  All other information 
such as panning setpoints, volume, arp assignments, global 
information.......etc, are all saved as well and recalled with the 
push of a button.

Later,

M2

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/orbit3


--- In xl7@y..., "shredbabe" <itexpert@y...> wrote:
> Thanks for your refreshing answer! I just have the box 2 days, 
worked 
> throught the complete manual, am an absolute expert, but still have 
> no clue about the multi's!
> 
> BTW: I also sold the 505 as I still think the sounds are crap (just 
> as the RM1x, excellent sequencer howver). Still own the 808Ex for 
> excellent effects and vocoder.
> 
> I just posted another question. Wanna give that one a try?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Richard
> 
> --- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > Yeah, I was on both lists actually, and although I sold my mc505 
> (and the 
> > sp808) more than a year ago, I still moderate and frequent that 
> list.
> > 
> > As for your question, I was going to ask the very same thing 
> tomorrow! 
> > Multisetups seem....well pointless really.  Maybe it's just me 
> too?  I was 
> > using just one Multisetup for everything, and then when I started 
> hooking 
> > the XL-7 up to a Micro Sync so I could integrate it with my 
tables, 
> I made 
> > another one that sets the tempo to EXT, and turns off the MIDI 
> Thrus too. 
> > But switching between Multis was causing me problems, in that the 
> current 
> > Presets are saved with a Multi too.  So what ever Pattern you 
were 
> on, the 
> > presets from it would save as the defaults when you laoded the 
> multi.  Not 
> > a bigd eal but I wold forget to power off tehn on after loading 
the 
> multi, 
> > so my patterns were playing with the wrong presets.  My fault 
> really, but 
> > now I just set the tempo to EXT manually and don't mess with the 
> multis. 
> > If they saved only global, arp, and MIDI menu settings it would 
be 
> better 
> > I think.
> > 
> > Anyone else got a use for Multi's?
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Can you please tell me the most useful purpases of the 
multisetups 
> as I 
> > don't see any purpose!
> > 
> > I remember you from the MC505 or SP808 group isn't it?

Yes you can.  Page 60 of the manual has what you are referring to and 
page 124 has the parameters I was talking about.

--- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Yeah, I know what they save, but why?  In the situation you 
describe, 
> couldn't you do the same thing with a Pattern?  User arps and 
tunings 
> aren't saved with a multi, so setting up a "template" pattern would 
do the 
> same thing, no?
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> A multisetup is generally used to bring up in an instance, favorite 
> patches that make up songs.  Channels 1-16a and 1-16b all have the 
> presets desired on the individual channels.  All other information 
> such as panning setpoints, volume, arp assignments, global 
> information.......etc, are all saved as well and recalled with the 
> push of a button.

In XL-7, multisetups are useful for the "everything else" part of them.
Since all of the "track data" (presets, vol, pan, etc) is saved in a
pattern, you can use a pattern to set up that info.  What multisetups
are great for in XL-7 is saving "system" data like trigger setups, midi
settings, etc.  This enables you to save, for example, a different
trigger setup per set, or perhaps a multi for live use and one for
studio use.

-Aaron

erik_magrini@... wrote:

>
> Yeah, I know what they save, but why?  In the situation you describe,
> couldn't you do the same thing with a Pattern?  User arps and tunings
> aren't saved with a multi, so setting up a "template" pattern would do
> the same thing, no?
>
> rEalm
>
>
>
> A multisetup is generally used to bring up in an instance, favorite
> patches that make up songs.  Channels 1-16a and 1-16b all have the
> presets desired on the individual channels.  All other information
> such as panning setpoints, volume, arp assignments, global
> information.......etc, are all saved as well and recalled with the
> push of a button.
>
>
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erik_magrini@... wrote:

> But switching between Multis was causing me problems, in that the
> current Presets are saved with a Multi too.  So what ever Pattern you
> were on, the presets from it would save as the defaults when you
> laoded the multi.

Just press stop twice (or three times if you were playing) after loading
the multi.  This reloads the *pattern's* idea of what the presets (and
vol, pan, etc) should be!

-Aaron

Maybe I'll have to re-explore my live versus studio multisetup idea then. 
Thanx Aaron!

rEalm




In XL-7, multisetups are useful for the "everything else" part of them.
Since all of the "track data" (presets, vol, pan, etc) is saved in a
pattern, you can use a pattern to set up that info.  What multisetups
are great for in XL-7 is saving "system" data like trigger setups, midi
settings, etc.  This enables you to save, for example, a different
trigger setup per set, or perhaps a multi for live use and one for
studio use.