Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

I am having some serious problems using the XL-7 as my pattern 
sequencer hooked up to Cubase and was hoping someone might have an 
idea of what is going on (sorry for the long post).

First off I will recap my setup as outlined in a previous post:

In Cubase I have a template with 12 midi tracks which map to tracks 5-
16 from the XL-7. I am using the input transformer on the tracks in
Cubase so that they filter out channels not assigned for this track.  
(I'm using a Steinberg Midex8 midi interface.)

For example:
In cubase:
Midi Track 1 -> Halion channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 5
Midi Track 2 -> Halion channel 2 <- From XL-7 channel 6
Midi Track 3 -> Halion channel 3 <- From XL-7 channel 7
Midi Track 4 -> Halion channel 4 <- From XL-7 channel 8
Midi Track 5 -> Virusb channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 9
Midi Track 6 -> Virusb channel 2 <- From XL-7 channel 10
Midi Track 7 -> Virusb channel 3 <- From XL-7 channel 11
Midi Track 8 -> Virusb channel 4 <- From XL-7 channel 12
Midi Track 9 -> MS2000r channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 13
Midi Track 10 -> EX5 channel 1    <- From XL-7 channel 14
Midi Track 11 -> Juno 106 channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 15
Midi Track 12 -> Absynth2 channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 16

Each track in the XL-7 template is storing a CC#11 controller as the 
first event so that when I save the template the channel routings are 
stored.
In the Cubase midi preferences dialog, I filter out CC##11.  I also 
filter program changes and SYSEX for both thru and record.  

Every time I use this setup, 2 problems occur at intermittent times, 
and with no obvious pattern of events:

[1] ... The Access Virus b will not make any sound.  Even doing a 
patch audition by pressing EDIT & SYNC or choosing any other patch, 
will not result in sound.  The virus has to be completely shut down 
and restarted.

[2] ... The XL-7 will completely lock-up and has to be 
restarted.  "Local" is on in the XL-7 because I use the pads to 
transmit midi to my other devices as well as internal patches.  No 
tracks in Cubase are being routed back to the XL-7 so there shouldn't 
be a midi loopback problem.  The only thing that I can see that the 
XL-7 receives from Cubase is midi clock and song pointer info.

Anything else I should look at?
Thanks for listening,
grimley

Hmmm, no idea what could be causing this one.  You're recording while in 
loop mode in SX right?  What do you have your knobs on the Virus set to 
send, CC's or sysex?

rEalm





"Justin Grimley" <grimley@...>
02/17/2004 12:24 AM
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        Subject:        [xl7] Cubase SX / XL-7 midi woes


I am having some serious problems using the XL-7 as my pattern 
sequencer hooked up to Cubase and was hoping someone might have an 
idea of what is going on (sorry for the long post).

First off I will recap my setup as outlined in a previous post:

In Cubase I have a template with 12 midi tracks which map to tracks 5-
16 from the XL-7. I am using the input transformer on the tracks in
Cubase so that they filter out channels not assigned for this track. 
(I'm using a Steinberg Midex8 midi interface.)

For example:
In cubase:
Midi Track 1 -> Halion channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 5
Midi Track 2 -> Halion channel 2 <- From XL-7 channel 6
Midi Track 3 -> Halion channel 3 <- From XL-7 channel 7
Midi Track 4 -> Halion channel 4 <- From XL-7 channel 8
Midi Track 5 -> Virusb channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 9
Midi Track 6 -> Virusb channel 2 <- From XL-7 channel 10
Midi Track 7 -> Virusb channel 3 <- From XL-7 channel 11
Midi Track 8 -> Virusb channel 4 <- From XL-7 channel 12
Midi Track 9 -> MS2000r channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 13
Midi Track 10 -> EX5 channel 1    <- From XL-7 channel 14
Midi Track 11 -> Juno 106 channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 15
Midi Track 12 -> Absynth2 channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 16

Each track in the XL-7 template is storing a CC#11 controller as the 
first event so that when I save the template the channel routings are 
stored.
In the Cubase midi preferences dialog, I filter out CC##11.  I also 
filter program changes and SYSEX for both thru and record. 

Every time I use this setup, 2 problems occur at intermittent times, 
and with no obvious pattern of events:

[1] ... The Access Virus b will not make any sound.  Even doing a 
patch audition by pressing EDIT & SYNC or choosing any other patch, 
will not result in sound.  The virus has to be completely shut down 
and restarted.

[2] ... The XL-7 will completely lock-up and has to be 
restarted.  "Local" is on in the XL-7 because I use the pads to 
transmit midi to my other devices as well as internal patches.  No 
tracks in Cubase are being routed back to the XL-7 so there shouldn't 
be a midi loopback problem.  The only thing that I can see that the 
XL-7 receives from Cubase is midi clock and song pointer info.

Anything else I should look at?
Thanks for listening,
grimley





 
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rAlm,
Where do I check that?
In the control menu I can select Midi Control Lo and Hi page.  I have 
it set to LoPage -> Contr and HiPage -> SysEx.  I believe these are 
the settings I need for Emagic SoundDiver.

-grimley


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Hmmm, no idea what could be causing this one.  You're recording 
while in 
> loop mode in SX right?  What do you have your knobs on the Virus 
set to 
> send, CC's or sysex?
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Justin Grimley" <grimley@i...>
> 02/17/2004 12:24 AM
> Please respond to xl7
> 
>  
>         To:     xl7@yahoogroups.com
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        [xl7] Cubase SX / XL-7 midi woes
> 
> 
> I am having some serious problems using the XL-7 as my pattern 
> sequencer hooked up to Cubase and was hoping someone might have an 
> idea of what is going on (sorry for the long post).
> 
> First off I will recap my setup as outlined in a previous post:
> 
> In Cubase I have a template with 12 midi tracks which map to tracks 
5-
> 16 from the XL-7. I am using the input transformer on the tracks in
> Cubase so that they filter out channels not assigned for this 
track. 
> (I'm using a Steinberg Midex8 midi interface.)
> 
> For example:
> In cubase:
> Midi Track 1 -> Halion channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 5
> Midi Track 2 -> Halion channel 2 <- From XL-7 channel 6
> Midi Track 3 -> Halion channel 3 <- From XL-7 channel 7
> Midi Track 4 -> Halion channel 4 <- From XL-7 channel 8
> Midi Track 5 -> Virusb channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 9
> Midi Track 6 -> Virusb channel 2 <- From XL-7 channel 10
> Midi Track 7 -> Virusb channel 3 <- From XL-7 channel 11
> Midi Track 8 -> Virusb channel 4 <- From XL-7 channel 12
> Midi Track 9 -> MS2000r channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 13
> Midi Track 10 -> EX5 channel 1    <- From XL-7 channel 14
> Midi Track 11 -> Juno 106 channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 15
> Midi Track 12 -> Absynth2 channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 16
> 
> Each track in the XL-7 template is storing a CC#11 controller as 
the 
> first event so that when I save the template the channel routings 
are 
> stored.
> In the Cubase midi preferences dialog, I filter out CC##11.  I also 
> filter program changes and SYSEX for both thru and record. 
> 
> Every time I use this setup, 2 problems occur at intermittent 
times, 
> and with no obvious pattern of events:
> 
> [1] ... The Access Virus b will not make any sound.  Even doing a 
> patch audition by pressing EDIT & SYNC or choosing any other patch, 
> will not result in sound.  The virus has to be completely shut down 
> and restarted.
> 
> [2] ... The XL-7 will completely lock-up and has to be 
> restarted.  "Local" is on in the XL-7 because I use the pads to 
> transmit midi to my other devices as well as internal patches.  No 
> tracks in Cubase are being routed back to the XL-7 so there 
shouldn't 
> be a midi loopback problem.  The only thing that I can see that the 
> XL-7 receives from Cubase is midi clock and song pointer info.
> 
> Anything else I should look at?
> Thanks for listening,
> grimley
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Actually for Sounddiver they both need to be set to sysex.  But it looks 
like you have them set right for what I was thinking, no other ideas what 
could be causing that problem.

rEalm





rAlm,
Where do I check that?
In the control menu I can select Midi Control Lo and Hi page.  I have 
it set to LoPage -> Contr and HiPage -> SysEx.  I believe these are 
the settings I need for Emagic SoundDiver.

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Thanks for trying anyway!
This evening I'm going to try hooking up a midi merge box to the XL-7 
and split the output so that it goes to both Cubase and the Virus.  
Same with the Midex to Virus connection.  That way I can bypass 
Cubase and see if it is a XL-7->Virus issue or a XL7-Cubase->Virus 
issue.
-Justin.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Actually for Sounddiver they both need to be set to sysex.  But it 
looks 
> like you have them set right for what I was thinking, no other 
ideas what 
> could be causing that problem.
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> rAlm,
> Where do I check that?
> In the control menu I can select Midi Control Lo and Hi page.  I 
have 
> it set to LoPage -> Contr and HiPage -> SysEx.  I believe these are 
> the settings I need for Emagic SoundDiver.
> 
> -grimley
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Good idea. 

rEalm





"Justin Grimley" <grimley@...>
02/19/2004 01:04 PM
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        Subject:        [xl7] Re: Cubase SX / XL-7 midi woes


Thanks for trying anyway!
This evening I'm going to try hooking up a midi merge box to the XL-7 
and split the output so that it goes to both Cubase and the Virus. 
Same with the Midex to Virus connection.  That way I can bypass 
Cubase and see if it is a XL-7->Virus issue or a XL7-Cubase->Virus 
issue.
-Justin.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Actually for Sounddiver they both need to be set to sysex.  But it 
looks 
> like you have them set right for what I was thinking, no other 
ideas what 
> could be causing that problem.
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> rAlm,
> Where do I check that?
> In the control menu I can select Midi Control Lo and Hi page.  I 
have 
> it set to LoPage -> Contr and HiPage -> SysEx.  I believe these are 
> the settings I need for Emagic SoundDiver.
> 
> -grimley
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Aaron,
Do you have any idea what could be going on here?

I have narrowed the problem down by disconnecting the Virus midi in 
from my midi patchbay altogether (midex 8).
I now have the XL-7 midi B connected to the Virus midi in and I am 
still seeing the problem.  I was convinced this was a Cubase problem.

Anyway, playing back a pettern on the XL-7 (just one track output to 
channel:01B and Dest:both going to Virus) the sound on the Virus will 
stop.  Preview sound on the Virus will not work (hold Edit and Sync), 
playing the pads on the XL-7 will make no sounds on the Virus.  
Previously I had to reset the Virus to fix the problem.  Changing 
presets would have no affect.  However, I just discovered that if I 
change from multi to single mode and back on the Virus then the 
problem is cleared and all is good .... until I start play again on 
the XL-7.  

I would greatly appreciate any help on this.

-Justin.



--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Good idea. 
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Justin Grimley" <grimley@i...>
> 02/19/2004 01:04 PM
> Please respond to xl7
> 
>  
>         To:     xl7@yahoogroups.com
>         cc: 
>         Subject:        [xl7] Re: Cubase SX / XL-7 midi woes
> 
> 
> Thanks for trying anyway!
> This evening I'm going to try hooking up a midi merge box to the XL-
7 
> and split the output so that it goes to both Cubase and the Virus. 
> Same with the Midex to Virus connection.  That way I can bypass 
> Cubase and see if it is a XL-7->Virus issue or a XL7-Cubase->Virus 
> issue.
> -Justin.
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > Actually for Sounddiver they both need to be set to sysex.  But 
it 
> looks 
> > like you have them set right for what I was thinking, no other 
> ideas what 
> > could be causing that problem.
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > rAlm,
> > Where do I check that?
> > In the control menu I can select Midi Control Lo and Hi page.  I 
> have 
> > it set to LoPage -> Contr and HiPage -> SysEx.  I believe these 
are 
> > the settings I need for Emagic SoundDiver.
> > 
> > -grimley


 
 
     
 
   
 
 
I am having some serious problems using the XL-7 as my pattern
sequencer hooked up to Cubase and was hoping someone might have an
idea of what is going on (sorry for the long post).

First off I will recap my setup as outlined in a previous post:

In Cubase I have a template with 12 midi tracks which map to tracks 5-
16 from the XL-7. I am using the input transformer on the tracks in
Cubase so that they filter out channels not assigned for this track.
(I'm using a Steinberg Midex8 midi interface.)

For example:
In cubase:
Midi Track 1 -> Halion channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 5
Midi Track 2 -> Halion channel 2 <- From XL-7 channel 6
Midi Track 3 -> Halion channel 3 <- From XL-7 channel 7
Midi Track 4 -> Halion channel 4 <- From XL-7 channel 8
Midi Track 5 -> Virusb channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 9
Midi Track 6 -> Virusb channel 2 <- From XL-7 channel 10
Midi Track 7 -> Virusb channel 3 <- From XL-7 channel 11
Midi Track 8 -> Virusb channel 4 <- From XL-7 channel 12
Midi Track 9 -> MS2000r channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 13
Midi Track 10 -> EX5 channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 14
Midi Track 11 -> Juno 106 channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 15
Midi Track 12 -> Absynth2 channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 16

Each track in the XL-7 template is storing a CC#11 controller as the
first event so that when I save the template the channel routings are
stored.
In the Cubase midi preferences dialog, I filter out CC##11. I also
filter program changes and SYSEX for both thru and record.

Every time I use this setup, 2 problems occur at intermittent times,
and with no obvious pattern of events:

[1] ... The Access Virus b will not make any sound. Even doing a
patch audition by pressing EDIT & SYNC or choosing any other patch,
will not result in sound. The virus has to be completely shut down
and restarted.

[2] ... The XL-7 will completely lock-up and has to be
restarted. "Local" is on in the XL-7 because I use the pads to
transmit midi to my other devices as well as internal patches. No
tracks in Cubase are being routed back to the XL-7 so there shouldn't
be a midi loopback problem. The only thing that I can see that the
XL-7 receives from Cubase is midi clock and song pointer info.

Anything else I should look at?
Thanks for listening,
grimley

 

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Hi Justin

How about changing presets without leaving multi mode? Does that fix
anything?
Have you ruled out all stray midi messages by doing an ERASE ALL
CONTROLLERS on the track?

-m@

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Justin Grimley [mailto:grimley@...] 
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> To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [xl7] Re: XL-7 midi woes - Aaron??
> 
> 
> Aaron,
> Do you have any idea what could be going on here?
> 
> I have narrowed the problem down by disconnecting the Virus midi in 
> from my midi patchbay altogether (midex 8).
> I now have the XL-7 midi B connected to the Virus midi in and I am 
> still seeing the problem.  I was convinced this was a Cubase problem.
> 
> Anyway, playing back a pettern on the XL-7 (just one track output to 
> channel:01B and Dest:both going to Virus) the sound on the Virus will 
> stop.  Preview sound on the Virus will not work (hold Edit and Sync), 
> playing the pads on the XL-7 will make no sounds on the Virus.  
> Previously I had to reset the Virus to fix the problem.  Changing 
> presets would have no affect.  However, I just discovered that if I 
> change from multi to single mode and back on the Virus then the 
> problem is cleared and all is good .... until I start play again on 
> the XL-7.  
> 
> I would greatly appreciate any help on this.
> 
> -Justin.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > Good idea.
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "Justin Grimley" <grimley@i...>
> > 02/19/2004 01:04 PM
> > Please respond to xl7
> > 
> >  
> >         To:     xl7@yahoogroups.com
> >         cc: 
> >         Subject:        [xl7] Re: Cubase SX / XL-7 midi woes
> > 
> > 
> > Thanks for trying anyway!
> > This evening I'm going to try hooking up a midi merge box to the XL-
> 7 
> > and split the output so that it goes to both Cubase and the Virus.
> > Same with the Midex to Virus connection.  That way I can bypass 
> > Cubase and see if it is a XL-7->Virus issue or a XL7-Cubase->Virus 
> > issue.
> > -Justin.
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > > Actually for Sounddiver they both need to be set to sysex.  But
> it 
> > looks
> > > like you have them set right for what I was thinking, no other
> > ideas what
> > > could be causing that problem.
> > > 
> > > rEalm
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > rAlm,
> > > Where do I check that?
> > > In the control menu I can select Midi Control Lo and Hi page.  I
> > have
> > > it set to LoPage -> Contr and HiPage -> SysEx.  I believe these
> are 
> > > the settings I need for Emagic SoundDiver.
> > > 
> > > -grimley
> 
> 
>  
>  
>      
>  
>    
>  
>  
> I am having some serious problems using the XL-7 as my 
> pattern sequencer hooked up to Cubase and was hoping someone 
> might have an idea of what is going on (sorry for the long post).
> 
> First off I will recap my setup as outlined in a previous post:
> 
> In Cubase I have a template with 12 midi tracks which map to 
> tracks 5- 16 from the XL-7. I am using the input transformer 
> on the tracks in Cubase so that they filter out channels not 
> assigned for this track. (I'm using a Steinberg Midex8 midi 
> interface.)
> 
> For example:
> In cubase:
> Midi Track 1 -> Halion channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 5
> Midi Track 2 -> Halion channel 2 <- From XL-7 channel 6
> Midi Track 3 -> Halion channel 3 <- From XL-7 channel 7
> Midi Track 4 -> Halion channel 4 <- From XL-7 channel 8
> Midi Track 5 -> Virusb channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 9
> Midi Track 6 -> Virusb channel 2 <- From XL-7 channel 10
> Midi Track 7 -> Virusb channel 3 <- From XL-7 channel 11
> Midi Track 8 -> Virusb channel 4 <- From XL-7 channel 12
> Midi Track 9 -> MS2000r channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 13
> Midi Track 10 -> EX5 channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 14
> Midi Track 11 -> Juno 106 channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 15 
> Midi Track 12 -> Absynth2 channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 16
> 
> Each track in the XL-7 template is storing a CC#11 controller 
> as the first event so that when I save the template the 
> channel routings are stored. In the Cubase midi preferences 
> dialog, I filter out CC##11. I also filter program changes 
> and SYSEX for both thru and record.
> 
> Every time I use this setup, 2 problems occur at intermittent 
> times, and with no obvious pattern of events:
> 
> [1] ... The Access Virus b will not make any sound. Even 
> doing a patch audition by pressing EDIT & SYNC or choosing 
> any other patch, will not result in sound. The virus has to 
> be completely shut down and restarted.
> 
> [2] ... The XL-7 will completely lock-up and has to be 
> restarted. "Local" is on in the XL-7 because I use the pads 
> to transmit midi to my other devices as well as internal 
> patches. No tracks in Cubase are being routed back to the 
> XL-7 so there shouldn't be a midi loopback problem. The only 
> thing that I can see that the XL-7 receives from Cubase is 
> midi clock and song pointer info.
> 
> Anything else I should look at?
> Thanks for listening,
> grimley
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Matt,
Changing presets without leaving mult-mode does not fix it.  I have 
to switch to single mode and back to multi.

As for the stray midi messages.  This is what I originally thought 
was happening as I have a CC#11 at the start of every track on my 
default empty pattern.  This is so that the pattern retains it's 
channel routings when I store it.  However, erasing the tracks 
(holding erase and track number) still does not fix the problem.

I appreciate you trying though.
-Justin


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Picone" <matman@m...> wrote:
> Hi Justin
> 
> How about changing presets without leaving multi mode? Does that fix
> anything?
> Have you ruled out all stray midi messages by doing an ERASE ALL
> CONTROLLERS on the track?
> 
> -m@
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Justin Grimley [mailto:grimley@i...] 
> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2004 2:13 PM
> > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [xl7] Re: XL-7 midi woes - Aaron??
> > 
> > 
> > Aaron,
> > Do you have any idea what could be going on here?
> > 
> > I have narrowed the problem down by disconnecting the Virus midi 
in 
> > from my midi patchbay altogether (midex 8).
> > I now have the XL-7 midi B connected to the Virus midi in and I 
am 
> > still seeing the problem.  I was convinced this was a Cubase 
problem.
> > 
> > Anyway, playing back a pettern on the XL-7 (just one track output 
to 
> > channel:01B and Dest:both going to Virus) the sound on the Virus 
will 
> > stop.  Preview sound on the Virus will not work (hold Edit and 
Sync), 
> > playing the pads on the XL-7 will make no sounds on the Virus.  
> > Previously I had to reset the Virus to fix the problem.  Changing 
> > presets would have no affect.  However, I just discovered that if 
I 
> > change from multi to single mode and back on the Virus then the 
> > problem is cleared and all is good .... until I start play again 
on 
> > the XL-7.  
> > 
> > I would greatly appreciate any help on this.
> > 
> > -Justin.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > > Good idea.
> > > 
> > > rEalm
> > > 
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> > > "Justin Grimley" <grimley@i...>
> > > 02/19/2004 01:04 PM
> > > Please respond to xl7
> > > 
> > >  
> > >         To:     xl7@yahoogroups.com
> > >         cc: 
> > >         Subject:        [xl7] Re: Cubase SX / XL-7 midi woes
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Thanks for trying anyway!
> > > This evening I'm going to try hooking up a midi merge box to 
the XL-
> > 7 
> > > and split the output so that it goes to both Cubase and the 
Virus.
> > > Same with the Midex to Virus connection.  That way I can bypass 
> > > Cubase and see if it is a XL-7->Virus issue or a XL7-Cubase-
>Virus 
> > > issue.
> > > -Justin.
> > > 
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > > > Actually for Sounddiver they both need to be set to sysex.  
But
> > it 
> > > looks
> > > > like you have them set right for what I was thinking, no other
> > > ideas what
> > > > could be causing that problem.
> > > > 
> > > > rEalm
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> > > > rAlm,
> > > > Where do I check that?
> > > > In the control menu I can select Midi Control Lo and Hi 
page.  I
> > > have
> > > > it set to LoPage -> Contr and HiPage -> SysEx.  I believe 
these
> > are 
> > > > the settings I need for Emagic SoundDiver.
> > > > 
> > > > -grimley
> > 
> > 
> >  
> >  
> >      
> >  
> >    
> >  
> >  
> > I am having some serious problems using the XL-7 as my 
> > pattern sequencer hooked up to Cubase and was hoping someone 
> > might have an idea of what is going on (sorry for the long post).
> > 
> > First off I will recap my setup as outlined in a previous post:
> > 
> > In Cubase I have a template with 12 midi tracks which map to 
> > tracks 5- 16 from the XL-7. I am using the input transformer 
> > on the tracks in Cubase so that they filter out channels not 
> > assigned for this track. (I'm using a Steinberg Midex8 midi 
> > interface.)
> > 
> > For example:
> > In cubase:
> > Midi Track 1 -> Halion channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 5
> > Midi Track 2 -> Halion channel 2 <- From XL-7 channel 6
> > Midi Track 3 -> Halion channel 3 <- From XL-7 channel 7
> > Midi Track 4 -> Halion channel 4 <- From XL-7 channel 8
> > Midi Track 5 -> Virusb channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 9
> > Midi Track 6 -> Virusb channel 2 <- From XL-7 channel 10
> > Midi Track 7 -> Virusb channel 3 <- From XL-7 channel 11
> > Midi Track 8 -> Virusb channel 4 <- From XL-7 channel 12
> > Midi Track 9 -> MS2000r channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 13
> > Midi Track 10 -> EX5 channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 14
> > Midi Track 11 -> Juno 106 channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 15 
> > Midi Track 12 -> Absynth2 channel 1 <- From XL-7 channel 16
> > 
> > Each track in the XL-7 template is storing a CC#11 controller 
> > as the first event so that when I save the template the 
> > channel routings are stored. In the Cubase midi preferences 
> > dialog, I filter out CC##11. I also filter program changes 
> > and SYSEX for both thru and record.
> > 
> > Every time I use this setup, 2 problems occur at intermittent 
> > times, and with no obvious pattern of events:
> > 
> > [1] ... The Access Virus b will not make any sound. Even 
> > doing a patch audition by pressing EDIT & SYNC or choosing 
> > any other patch, will not result in sound. The virus has to 
> > be completely shut down and restarted.
> > 
> > [2] ... The XL-7 will completely lock-up and has to be 
> > restarted. "Local" is on in the XL-7 because I use the pads 
> > to transmit midi to my other devices as well as internal 
> > patches. No tracks in Cubase are being routed back to the 
> > XL-7 so there shouldn't be a midi loopback problem. The only 
> > thing that I can see that the XL-7 receives from Cubase is 
> > midi clock and song pointer info.
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> > Anything else I should look at?
> > Thanks for listening,
> > grimley
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--- Justin Grimley <grimley@...> wrote:
> Aaron,
> Do you have any idea what could be going on here?

Not really, but I'll take a guess.

> Anyway, playing back a pettern on the XL-7 (just one track output to 
> channel:01B and Dest:both going to Virus) the sound on the Virus will
> stop.  Preview sound on the Virus will not work (hold Edit and Sync),
> playing the pads on the XL-7 will make no sounds on the Virus.  

Perhaps the Virus is unhappy with a reset all controllers message?  I'd
plug the output B of your XL-7 into a computer and run a program called
SendSX to see the bytes coming out of the XL-7.  You could even send
them from there to the Virus if you wanted.  You might be able to
figure out the offending message and let us know.

-Aaron

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Thanks Aaron ... I'm feeling pretty stupid right now!

So I was sending volume change 0 to the Virus.  
On the XL-7 I had set the volume for tracks 9-12 (mapped to virus) to 
zero because I didn't want the internal sounds on the XL-7 playing 
for those tracks.  Changing the volume for those tracks to 127 fixed 
the virus problem .... doh!
Anyway, now my problem is this:
I have tracks 9-12 (virus) channel assign set to Dest:both because I 
want to use the XL-7 arp to trigger the virus, but I don't want the 
XL7 sounds to be heard on those tracks.  What is the workaround for 
this situation?
Thanks,
Justin.


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> --- Justin Grimley <grimley@i...> wrote:
> > Aaron,
> > Do you have any idea what could be going on here?
> 
> Not really, but I'll take a guess.
> 
> > Anyway, playing back a pettern on the XL-7 (just one track output 
to 
> > channel:01B and Dest:both going to Virus) the sound on the Virus 
will
> > stop.  Preview sound on the Virus will not work (hold Edit and 
Sync),
> > playing the pads on the XL-7 will make no sounds on the Virus.  
> 
> Perhaps the Virus is unhappy with a reset all controllers message?  
I'd
> plug the output B of your XL-7 into a computer and run a program 
called
> SendSX to see the bytes coming out of the XL-7.  You could even send
> them from there to the Virus if you wanted.  You might be able to
> figure out the offending message and let us know.
> 
> -Aaron
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> I have tracks 9-12 (virus) channel assign set to Dest:both because I 
> want to use the XL-7 arp to trigger the virus, but I don't want the 
> XL7 sounds to be heard on those tracks.  What is the workaround for 
> this situation?

Route them to the sub outs and don't mute/disconnect these?

-m@

Matt,
You're a star!
After I figured out I needed to connect a cable to the back of the 
box to enable the sub outs, I was flying.
Cheers,
Justin.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Picone" <matman@m...> wrote:
> > I have tracks 9-12 (virus) channel assign set to Dest:both 
because I 
> > want to use the XL-7 arp to trigger the virus, but I don't want 
the 
> > XL7 sounds to be heard on those tracks.  What is the workaround 
for 
> > this situation?
> 
> Route them to the sub outs and don't mute/disconnect these?
> 
> -m@

> Matt,
> You're a star!
> After I figured out I needed to connect a cable to the back of the 
> box to enable the sub outs, I was flying.
> Cheers,
> Justin.

No Justin, for making music, you're the star. 
In this case, I'm just the assistant.

-m@

Not to rain on Matt's parade, but an even easier workaround is to make
a "blank" user preset (i.e. one with all four instruments "none").  Put
that preset on the channels you want to be silent.

If you're feeling frisky, you can even make custom "external arp"
presets like this.  Simply assign none to all the instruments, assign
an arp you like, then save the preset.  Now when you call up that
preset on an "both" track, you won't hear any internal sound but you'll
get the arp you assigned played on your Virus.

-Aaron

--- Justin Grimley <grimley@...> wrote:
> After I figured out I needed to connect a cable to the back of the 
> box to enable the sub outs, I was flying.
> 
>> Route them to the sub outs and don't mute/disconnect these?
>> 
>> -m@
>>
>>> I have tracks 9-12 (virus) channel assign set to Dest:both 
>>> because I want to use the XL-7 arp to trigger the virus, but
>>> I don't want the XL7 sounds to be heard on those tracks.


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>Have you ruled out all stray midi messages by doing an ERASE ALL
>CONTROLLERS on the track?
>
>-m@

Does the earase all controllers funcion also erase sysex data [in my case 
from Korg ER1] ?

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Cool tip, Aaron. I am presently learning the sequencer, so please 
share other cool sequencer tips you may have (above and beyond the 
ordinary).  Thanks.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:

[snip]

> If you're feeling frisky, you can even make custom "external arp"
> presets like this.  Simply assign none to all the instruments,
> assign an arp you like, then save the preset.  Now when you call up
> that preset on an "both" track, you won't hear any internal sound
> but you'll get the arp you assigned played on your Virus.
> 
> -Aaron