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z>Just the actual sound quality doesn't have the depth that Hydra/Junglist
>has.  Those are VA softsynths, and sound entirely different from a ROMpler
>like the XX-7's.  It's just a core fundamental difference in the sound
>generating methods.  It'd be like painting and apple orange.  Yeah, it
>sorta looks like an orange then, but not really.
>
>rEalm
>

thats what it was about, to get close to a special sound i know from another 
instrument, i didnt thought that its gonna sound exactly equal.

whats happend to the soundfile [patch] exchange, i didnt found nothing 
around here, either on other synth pages with file exchange. are xx7 users 
unwilling to share their sound programing?

people,
i would like to spread some of my sounds to know what the people think about 
them, and this way maybe learn some more, from other programers with 
different styles and experiences?

somebody interested?

Midinovela

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This subject made me think of "Silver Apples of the Moon" by Subotnik

hehe

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Turby Schmidt" <trabantmusic@h...> wrote:
> 
> z>Just the actual sound quality doesn't have the depth that 
Hydra/Junglist
> >has.  Those are VA softsynths, and sound entirely different from a 
ROMpler
> >like the XX-7's.  It's just a core fundamental difference in the 
sound
> >generating methods.  It'd be like painting and apple orange.  
Yeah, it
> >sorta looks like an orange then, but not really.
> >
> >rEalm
> >
> 
> thats what it was about, to get close to a special sound i know 
from another 
> instrument, i didnt thought that its gonna sound exactly equal.
> 
> whats happend to the soundfile [patch] exchange, i didnt found 
nothing 
> around here, either on other synth pages with file exchange. are 
xx7 users 
> unwilling to share their sound programing?
> 
> people,
> i would like to spread some of my sounds to know what the people 
think about 
> them, and this way maybe learn some more, from other programers 
with 
> different styles and experiences?
> 
> somebody interested?
> 
> Midinovela
> 
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thats what it was about, to get close to a special sound i know from 
another instrument, i didnt thought that its gonna sound exactly equal.

>>>Well you could certainly still go for it.  The biggest problem I see, 
is that waveform pictures you see in Hydra are only of a single duty cycle 
of the waveform.  Any image you get from the XX-7's will be much, much 
more complex and larger.  Might be possible still, but I still think 
you'll spend a ton of time on it and not get close, might betterto use 
that time just making up new XX-7 patches :) <<<

whats happend to the soundfile [patch] exchange, i didnt found nothing 
around here, either on other synth pages with file exchange. are xx7 users 
unwilling to share their sound programing?

>>>I was going to post a bunch of mine, but when I was going through them 
and sorting them out, I realized most of them used instruments from 
multiple ROMs.  So they would only be good to someone who has an XL-7, 
PX-7, and P2500 ROM all installed in their machine.  I "MIGHT" have enough 
that are just XL-7 based, but then only XL-7 people can use them :) <<<

i would like to spread some of my sounds to know what the people think 
about them, and this way maybe learn some more, from other programers with 
different styles and experiences?

>>>I'm always down to listen to stuff like that, so if you have some 
patches, send them my way and I'll tell you what I think :) Provided I 
have the same ROM as you of course, and there's the rub. <<<

rEalm

 







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>
> >>>I'm always down to listen to stuff like that, so if you have some
>patches, send them my way and I'll tell you what I think :) Provided I
>have the same ROM as you of course, and there's the rub. <<<
>
>rEalm
>

thanx a lot,
that will be nice, i have the mp7 rom and the tscy installed,
and some presets uses instruments from both roms, others not...
if you see a change to be able to open them let me know if youd prefer the 
smf dump as single presets or if youd like the hole bank as one user bank 
dump.

thinking of that i have another question
is it posible to put a smf dump of a preset into another than the original 
locacion?

...

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I think we should post them up anyway ...Could evoke more NEW sound 
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  Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 2:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] Orange Apples


  thats what it was about, to get close to a special sound i know from 
  another instrument, i didnt thought that its gonna sound exactly equal.

  >>>Well you could certainly still go for it.  The biggest problem I see, 
  is that waveform pictures you see in Hydra are only of a single duty cycle 
  of the waveform.  Any image you get from the XX-7's will be much, much 
  more complex and larger.  Might be possible still, but I still think 
  you'll spend a ton of time on it and not get close, might betterto use 
  that time just making up new XX-7 patches :) <<<

  whats happend to the soundfile [patch] exchange, i didnt found nothing 
  around here, either on other synth pages with file exchange. are xx7 users 
  unwilling to share their sound programing?

  >>>I was going to post a bunch of mine, but when I was going through them 
  and sorting them out, I realized most of them used instruments from 
  multiple ROMs.  So they would only be good to someone who has an XL-7, 
  PX-7, and P2500 ROM all installed in their machine.  I "MIGHT" have enough 
  that are just XL-7 based, but then only XL-7 people can use them :) <<<

  i would like to spread some of my sounds to know what the people think 
  about them, and this way maybe learn some more, from other programers with 
  different styles and experiences?

  >>>I'm always down to listen to stuff like that, so if you have some 
  patches, send them my way and I'll tell you what I think :) Provided I 
  have the same ROM as you of course, and there's the rub. <<<

  rEalm









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that will be nice, i have the mp7 rom and the tscy installed, and some 
presets uses instruments from both roms, others not...if you see a change 
to be able to open them let me know if youd prefer the smf dump as single 
presets or if youd like the hole bank as one user bank dump.

>>>Well, I don't have either of those ROMs, so I can't listen after all. 
:(  <<< 

thinking of that i have another question is it posible to put a smf dump 
of a preset into another than the original 
locacion?

>>>Not without going into the sysex and changing the bank and preset 
number, which would be very time consuming. <<<

rEalm 







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> . . . i have another question is it posible to put a smf dump 
> of a preset into another than the original 
> locacion?
> 
> >>Not without going into the sysex and changing the bank and preset
> >>number, which would be very time consuming. <<<
> 
> rEalm 

This might be relatively easy to do (using debug) if you have Windows 
or even MS-DOS if you had a dump of a single preset in syx format.  
All you would need to do is change two bytes in the preset dump 
header.  These are the 8th and 9th bytes of the dump.

If the preset is embedded in a smf (or a .mid file), it is be more 
complex.