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2004-01-31 by geraeuschdichte
hi my xl7 is behaving weirdly. the display scrambles/flickers, it freezes sometimes... so i decided to boot it in diagnostics mode. now it tells me midi test failed - port a in/out jumpered? so i tried different (working) cables, disconnected all cables, but it keeps returning that error... somebody out there has an idea what could be the problem?
2004-01-31 by G e r ä u s c h d i c h t e
> now it tells me midi test failed - port a in/out > jumpered? and: midi loopback test... midi port failed! Mit sch\ufffdnen Gr\ufffd\ufffden von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de
2004-01-31 by Aaron Eppolito
--- geraeuschdichte <geraeuschdichte@...> wrote: > now it tells me midi test failed - port a in/out jumpered? Another case of "do what it says". Connect a MIDI cable from the input to the output A. It tests the MIDI ports by sending data to itself. -Aaron __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/
2004-01-31 by Stu
You have to connect a midi lead from Midi OutA to the Midi In, then run the Midi Loopback test, otherwise it will fail (as you have discovered!) Regards, Stu
-----Original Message----- From: G e r \ufffd u s c h d i c h t e [mailto:geraeuschdichte@...] Sent: 31 January 2004 18:35 To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [xl7] diagnostics: what's happening? > now it tells me midi test failed - port a in/out > jumpered? and: midi loopback test... midi port failed! Mit sch\ufffdnen Gr\ufffd\ufffden von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2004-01-31 by Stu
Hi, I've been having great fun with the Tempo Controller recently, but it keeps resetting to the Base Tempo when the pattern loops. Has anyone else had this problem, and is there a way to stop this happening? Regards, Stu
2004-01-31 by Aaron Eppolito
Do you have a tempo event other than at tick 0 or 1? Try looking through the Event viewer on the conductor track (CT). Hmm, just noticed that you're using tempo controller. Did this ever work? If not, it might be that it's resetting all controllers when it loops. Well, things to think about... -Aaron --- Stu <routerman@...> wrote: > I've been having great fun with the Tempo Controller recently, but > it keeps resetting to the Base Tempo when the pattern loops. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/
2004-02-01 by Stu
Ok, I'll try to clarify things a bit... In pattern mode, if I use the tempo controller to control the tempo, it works fine until the pattern loops, at which point the tempo reverts to the base tempo set for that pattern. This happens regardless of whether I use one of the frontpanel knobs to control tempo or if I use an external controller. (Interestingly, if I also set the same controller to control pitch on one of my patchs, the pitch stays at the level set by the controller when the pattern loops and doesn't revert to its default value). I've tried the frontpanel knobs (both in quick edit mode and as programmable knobs) and using an external controller, as well as different CC numbers (I've tried setting the tempo controllers to use CCs common to the realtime controllers (i.e. the same CC numbers as MidiM and MidiN) and also ones not used by the presets) but whatever I try the tempo still gets reset when the pattern loops... Can somebody else check this and confirm whether it happens to them or not? I'm hoping I'm missing something obvious... Regards, Stu
-----Original Message----- From: Aaron Eppolito [mailto:synthesis77@...] Sent: 31 January 2004 20:26 To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [xl7] Tempo Controller Do you have a tempo event other than at tick 0 or 1? Try looking through the Event viewer on the conductor track (CT). Hmm, just noticed that you're using tempo controller. Did this ever work? If not, it might be that it's resetting all controllers when it loops. Well, things to think about... -Aaron --- Stu <routerman@...> wrote: > I've been having great fun with the Tempo Controller recently, but > it keeps resetting to the Base Tempo when the pattern loops. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2004-02-01 by Aaron Eppolito
--- Stu <routerman@...> wrote: > Ok, I'll try to clarify things a bit... > In pattern mode, if I use the tempo controller to control the tempo You found a bug. Workarounds: 1 - don't use the tempo controller 2 - use the middle edit button in tempo view and use the encoder 3 - turn Chained Patterns to "keep constant tempo" and edit the tempo at least once by hand (either using method 2 or in the MIDI menu). then you can use your tempo controllers. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/
2004-02-01 by Stu
After a bit more messing around I've discovered the following: - If I press stop twice it resets the tempo to the base tempo. - If I edit the tempo, either in the MIDI menu or using the edit button and the rotary encoder on the front panel, then it no longer resets the tempo when the pattern loops, nor does it get reset when I press stop twice. - If I stop and change pattern, the tempo will once again get reset when the new pattern loops, unless I manually edit the tempo as outlined above. - If I change patterns on the fly (with 'keep constant tempo' set on the 'Chained Patterns' page in the MIDI menu), the tempo doesn't get reset when the pattern loops or when I press stop twice. - If I set 'change to new tempo' on the 'Chained Patterns' page, then change patterns on the fly, the tempo gets reset whenever the pattern loops, unless I edit the tempo again. So I have a workaround now - start my set at the base tempo, then before I use the tempo controller, edit the base tempo (by changing it by 1 bpm then back again). Then, as long as I don't stop and change patterns, and only change patterns on the fly, it should loop without resetting the tempo. Obviously, 'keep constant tempo' needs to be set for this to work. My guess is that the base tempo needs to be copied to the edit buffer for the tempo controller to work properly when the pattern loops, otherwise the pattern reverts to the base tempo. Regards, Stu
-----Original Message----- From: Stu [mailto:routerman@...] Sent: 01 February 2004 00:19 To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [xl7] Tempo Controller Ok, I'll try to clarify things a bit... In pattern mode, if I use the tempo controller to control the tempo, it works fine until the pattern loops, at which point the tempo reverts to the base tempo set for that pattern. This happens regardless of whether I use one of the frontpanel knobs to control tempo or if I use an external controller. (Interestingly, if I also set the same controller to control pitch on one of my patchs, the pitch stays at the level set by the controller when the pattern loops and doesn't revert to its default value). I've tried the frontpanel knobs (both in quick edit mode and as programmable knobs) and using an external controller, as well as different CC numbers (I've tried setting the tempo controllers to use CCs common to the realtime controllers (i.e. the same CC numbers as MidiM and MidiN) and also ones not used by the presets) but whatever I try the tempo still gets reset when the pattern loops... Can somebody else check this and confirm whether it happens to them or not? I'm hoping I'm missing something obvious... Regards, Stu -----Original Message----- From: Aaron Eppolito [mailto:synthesis77@...] Sent: 31 January 2004 20:26 To: xl7@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [xl7] Tempo Controller Do you have a tempo event other than at tick 0 or 1? Try looking through the Event viewer on the conductor track (CT). Hmm, just noticed that you're using tempo controller. Did this ever work? If not, it might be that it's resetting all controllers when it loops. Well, things to think about... -Aaron --- Stu <routerman@...> wrote: > I've been having great fun with the Tempo Controller recently, but > it keeps resetting to the Base Tempo when the pattern loops. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
2004-02-01 by Stu
--- Aaron Eppolito [mailto:synthesis77@...] wrote: >You found a bug. Workarounds: >1 - don't use the tempo controller >2 - use the middle edit button in tempo view and use the encoder >3 - turn Chained Patterns to "keep constant tempo" and edit the tempo >at least once by hand (either using method 2 or in the MIDI menu). >then you can use your tempo controllers. Sorry Aaron but I've got a knack for finding bugs - I was the first to report the rfx modulation resampling bug in EOS4.61, Steve Hoge sent me a new 'Rhythmic Delays' plugin when I discovered a bug in that, and now I've found a bug in the xx-7s... It's about time E-MU started paying me for the time I spend beta-testing their products. To be honest I'm surprised this tempo controller bug hasn't been spotted before, as I only started using it today and came across the bug almost straight away... Anyway, I have a 4th workaround (as outlined in my previous email) that lets me continue to use the tempo controller the way I want, so all's well that ends well! Mind you, if you do get a chance to update the xx-7 OS, then I expect you will be able to fix this little bug (acutally, now there is officially a bug in 2.00, isn't it about time you got to work on a bug-fixed version? Maybe you could put in some of them extra features we've been asking for while you're at it...!! ;) Just in case any of you didn't read my last email, the workround I discovered is: 4 - Start at the base tempo, then before you use the tempo controller, edit the base tempo (by changing it by 1 bpm then back again). Then, as long as you don't stop and change patterns, and only change patterns on the fly, it should loop without resetting the tempo. I have to add that I find the tempo controller to be one of the most amazing features I've ever seen on a sequencer... I've tried several times in the past to find some way converting midi clock into usable controller data or vice versa, and now I can! Thanks Aaron!! Stu
2004-02-01 by Aaron Eppolito
--- Stu <routerman@...> wrote: > > 3 - turn Chained Patterns to "keep constant tempo" and edit the > > tempo at least once by hand then you can use your tempo cntrls. > Anyway, I have a 4th workaround (as outlined in my previous email) Right, which coincidentally is the same as my #3... =) And the reason no one found it before is that probably no one (except now you) uses that feature in the XL-7s... =) It was a "hold-over" feature from the Proteus line. The bug is simply that changing the tempo via the tempo controller doesn't properly alert the sequencer that the tempo has changed (like the other methods do), so it doesn't know not to change it. -Aaron __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/
2004-02-01 by Stu
--- Aaron Eppolito [mailto:synthesis77@...] wrote: >Right, which coincidentally is the same as my #3... =) Doh! It's getting late here (gone 2 in the morning...) and my brain is fried... Stu
2004-02-01 by G e r ä u s c h d i c h t e
> Another case of "do what it says". Connect a MIDI > cable from the input > to the output A. It tests the MIDI ports by sending > data to itself. guess i didn't know what was meant with 'jumpered'. the disadvantage of not being a native english speaker. thanks! Mit sch\ufffdnen Gr\ufffd\ufffden von Yahoo! Mail - http://mail.yahoo.de
2004-02-01 by Aaron Eppolito
--- G e r \ufffd u s c h d i c h t e <geraeuschdichte@...> wrote: > guess i didn't know what was meant with 'jumpered'. > the disadvantage of not being a native english > speaker. thanks! Nah, it's the downside of not being a native techie speaker. My comment was meant to be toungue-in-cheek, especially since the guy before you had posted about what does press enter mean... =) Cheers, -Aaron __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/