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I am thinking in investing in an Xl-7...I find that it is in my 
current budget...BTw, what is the going price on the Xl-7, so I 
won't get ripped off??

Since there are so many posts and very little time to read(i am a 
fulltime student w/a wife...lol), I have some questions to ask...

My intent is to play live, rather than focus on studio recording...

Are any of you using the xl-7 or mp-7 in live "gig" situations...

if so, have they crashed often(if at all)?

I am focused on the dance, techno, trance genre; what would be good 
expansion cards to get???

Lastly, what other hardware are you using to complement the xl-7?

I would like to use a novation remote 25...Is anyone out there using 
this???

What other haredware would you reccommend???

Thank you,

DJIICE30

Buy the PX-7 from Musician's Friend. Read the archive of this group for
more info on how this is the best model at the best price.

-m@

I don't do any live gigging, but I can try and answer some other  
questions...

I'm pretty sure the going price for a xl-7 is $499, I just got my PX-7  
for that price, and bought the x lead-v2 rom for it.  I think zzounds  
has it for 499...

I don't know too much about the roms, but for dance/techno/trance, I  
think that probably the only roms worth looking at are the pure phatt,  
beat garden, and vintage modules.

The other hardware I have (as far as synths go anyway) are:
yamaha cs1x (my first "real" synth) - I like some of the sounds on it,  
but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone
alesis qs-r (with the latin expansion, I'm considering the eurodance  
one)
novation ks-4 - mmmm
alesis airsynth - I use this for adding "effects" to songs, and there's  
one song where I'm using it as a primary instrument

I definitely recommend a compressor of some sort (i have an alesis  
3630.)  and a kaoss pad would be super cool for live effects (just have  
that channel go out one of the sub outs)
and you'd be able to use that as a midi controller too.

-Chris

On Jan 25, 2004, at 2:00 PM, djiice30 wrote:

> I am thinking in investing in an Xl-7...I find that it is in my
> current budget...BTw, what is the going price on the Xl-7, so I
> won't get ripped off??
>
> Since there are so many posts and very little time to read(i am a
> fulltime student w/a wife...lol), I have some questions to ask...
>
> My intent is to play live, rather than focus on studio recording...
>
> Are any of you using the xl-7 or mp-7 in live "gig" situations...
>
> if so, have they crashed often(if at all)?
>
> I am focused on the dance, techno, trance genre; what would be good
> expansion cards to get???
>
> Lastly, what other hardware are you using to complement the xl-7?
>
> I would like to use a novation remote 25...Is anyone out there using
> this???
>
> What other haredware would you reccommend???
>
> Thank you,
>
> DJIICE30
>
>
>
>
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As for roms the protean drums(px-7 rom) is a must, the xtreme lead 
is nice, and if you added the TSCY and Beat Garden you will have the 
orbit 3 soundset. I am not sure why the px-7 is the best model. Who 
doesn't love purple and yellow. I looked a musicians friend and sure 
enough the px-7 is $100 cheaper than the MP-7, $200 cheaper than the 
2500 (less buttons more cost?) and the xl-7 was not even listed, how 
unusual. It looks like e-mu has raised their prices... $995
I heard rumors last fall about people finding command stations for 
around $300. You might want to shop around. Contact me when you want 
some roms:)
 Good luck you will be happy with any command station you choose, 
but the mp-7 patterns and soundset are not really geared toward 
dance, however you can tweak it to do whatever you want.
  Tom

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Picone" <matman@m...> wrote:
> Buy the PX-7 from Musician's Friend. Read the archive of this 
group for

> more info on how this is the best model at the best price.
> 
> -m@

For UK people

PX-7 is £369 at Turnkey (thats if they have it in stock)

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: dj 61 
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:39 AM
  Subject: [xl7] Re: Questions from a newbie


  As for roms the protean drums(px-7 rom) is a must, the xtreme lead 
  is nice, and if you added the TSCY and Beat Garden you will have the 
  orbit 3 soundset. I am not sure why the px-7 is the best model. Who 
  doesn't love purple and yellow. I looked a musicians friend and sure 
  enough the px-7 is $100 cheaper than the MP-7, $200 cheaper than the 
  2500 (less buttons more cost?) and the xl-7 was not even listed, how 
  unusual. It looks like e-mu has raised their prices... $995
  I heard rumors last fall about people finding command stations for 
  around $300. You might want to shop around. Contact me when you want 
  some roms:)
  Good luck you will be happy with any command station you choose, 
  but the mp-7 patterns and soundset are not really geared toward 
  dance, however you can tweak it to do whatever you want.
    Tom

  --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Picone" <matman@m...> wrote:
  > Buy the PX-7 from Musician's Friend. Read the archive of this 
  group for
  > more info on how this is the best model at the best price.
  > 
  > -m@



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| Good luck you will be happy with any command station you choose,
|but the mp-7 patterns and soundset are not really geared toward
|dance, however you can tweak it to do whatever you want.
|  Tom

I have to disagree with you there - one of the strengths of the command
stations is that they are infinitely tweakable. I agree that the factory
mp-7 presets are more r'n'b and hip hop orientated, but you can still make
techno and drum n bass with them.

Stu

Digital Village are doing them for that price too.

|-----Original Message-----
|From: Raj [mailto:rajah_patel@...]
|Sent: 26 January 2004 00:45
|To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
|Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Questions from a newbie
|
|
|For UK people
|
|PX-7 is \ufffd369 at Turnkey (thats if they have it in stock)
|
|
|  ----- Original Message -----
|  From: dj 61
|  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
|  Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:39 AM
|  Subject: [xl7] Re: Questions from a newbie
|
|
|  As for roms the protean drums(px-7 rom) is a must, the xtreme lead
|  is nice, and if you added the TSCY and Beat Garden you will have the
|  orbit 3 soundset. I am not sure why the px-7 is the best model. Who
|  doesn't love purple and yellow. I looked a musicians friend and sure
|  enough the px-7 is $100 cheaper than the MP-7, $200 cheaper than the
|  2500 (less buttons more cost?) and the xl-7 was not even listed, how
|  unusual. It looks like e-mu has raised their prices... $995
|  I heard rumors last fall about people finding command stations for
|  around $300. You might want to shop around. Contact me when you want
|  some roms:)
|  Good luck you will be happy with any command station you choose,
|  but the mp-7 patterns and soundset are not really geared toward
|  dance, however you can tweak it to do whatever you want.
|    Tom
|
|  --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Matt Picone" <matman@m...> wrote:
|  > Buy the PX-7 from Musician's Friend. Read the archive of this
|  group for
|  > more info on how this is the best model at the best price.
|  >
|  > -m@
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Perhaps my run-on sentence did not deliver the message clearly (I 
have an mp-7 by the way). The mp-7 patternsand presets are not 
really geared towards dance [patterns in particular]. You can, 
however, tweak them to do whatever you want. I also have the drum 
rom+px-7patterns, sied rom, and xlver2 rom+xl-7patterns(maybe I'll 
switch back to ver 1). Not to mention my maxxed 2500... Sorry but I 
am very proud of my MP-7 and could ramble for pages about it:) lol
 TOm
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <routerman@z...> wrote:
> 
> | Good luck you will be happy with any command station you choose,
> |but the mp-7 patterns and soundset are not really geared toward
> |dance, however you can tweak it to do whatever you want.
> |  Tom
> 
> I have to disagree with you there - one of the strengths of the 
command
> stations is that they are infinitely tweakable. I agree that the 
factory
> mp-7 presets are more r'n'b and hip hop orientated, but you can 
still make

> techno and drum n bass with them.
> 
> Stu

Tom,
Quick question: Why are you thinking about replacing the xlver2 rom 
with the xlver1?  My understanding is that the XL-7 patterns and 
songs won't play correctly on an Mp-7 or PX-7 with original xlver1 
rom, which is the reason EMU released the xlver2 rom.  
Just curious, Mike


"Perhaps my run-on sentence did not deliver the message clearly (I
have an mp-7 by the way). The mp-7 patternsand presets are not
really geared towards dance [patterns in particular]. You can,
however, tweak them to do whatever you want. I also have the drum
rom+px-7patterns, sied rom, and xlver2 rom+xl-7patterns(maybe I'll
switch back to ver 1). Not to mention my maxxed 2500... Sorry but I
am very proud of my MP-7 and could ramble for pages about it:) lol"
TOm

And how do you like the 2500.  It is just for add'l roms are do you sequence
with it as well?

Rev P

  -----Original Message-----
  From: dj 61 [mailto:dj61@...]
  Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 8:45 PM
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [xl7] Re: Questions from a newbie


  Perhaps my run-on sentence did not deliver the message clearly (I
  have an mp-7 by the way). The mp-7 patternsand presets are not
  really geared towards dance [patterns in particular]. You can,
  however, tweak them to do whatever you want. I also have the drum
  rom+px-7patterns, sied rom, and xlver2 rom+xl-7patterns(maybe I'll
  switch back to ver 1). Not to mention my maxxed 2500... Sorry but I
  am very proud of my MP-7 and could ramble for pages about it:) lol
  TOm
  --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <routerman@z...> wrote:
  >
  > | Good luck you will be happy with any command station you choose,
  > |but the mp-7 patterns and soundset are not really geared toward
  > |dance, however you can tweak it to do whatever you want.
  > |  Tom
  >
  > I have to disagree with you there - one of the strengths of the
  command
  > stations is that they are infinitely tweakable. I agree that the
  factory
  > mp-7 presets are more r'n'b and hip hop orientated, but you can
  still make
  > techno and drum n bass with them.
  >
  > Stu



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BTw, what is the going price on the Xl-7, so I won't get ripped off??

>>>I think $499 is going rate for an XL-7 or MP-7, the PX-7's are more at 
$699. Only because they are new, you can easily get a Protean Drum ROM for 
cheap and put it in the XL-7 too. <<<

My intent is to play live, rather than focus on studio recording... Are 
any of you using the xl-7 or mp-7 in live "gig" situations... if so, have 
they crashed often(if at all)?

>>>I use mine live all the time, in fact that's it's main purpose for me, 
as a live sequencer/sound module.  The only time I've had major issues, 
was when the power outlet I was plugged into at the venue had questionable 
voltage.  They were running their sound and lights all off the same 
breaker, and I think it freaked out the XL-7.  Best bet is to get small 
$50 UPS and you'll be fine. <<<

I am focused on the dance, techno, trance genre; what would be good 
expansion cards to get???

>>>Doesn't matter to be honest, as long as you make your own sounds you 
can make any ROM sound good in those genres.  If you only want to use 
Factory Presets, then the TSCY, XL-ROM, Beat Garden, and POP rom all are 
good choices. ,<<

Lastly, what other hardware are you using to complement the xl-7?

>>>Sometimes an ER-1, previously a Roland SP808, and soon to get a Kaoss 
KP-2 effects unit too.  Starting very shortly I'll be using a laptop 
running Kontakt too. ,<<

I would like to use a novation remote 25...Is anyone out there using 
this???

>>>It's a great little keyboard, I plan on getting one once the laptop 
arrives. <<<

What other haredware would you reccommend???

>>>Depends on what you need it for.  I can do entire live sets using JUST 
the XL_7, so I don't think anything else is neccessary, only what you feel 
you need. ,<<

rEalm



 


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I had the ver 1 installed and was set on creating all my own 
patterns  etc.  Then I decided I should start using what was at hand 
and began checking out some factory arps which led me on the 
slippery slope to occasionally hi jacking a melody or so from 
diferent patterns. This led me to download the xl-7 patterns which 
to my dismay did not work. Ah, ver1 vs ver2. I had some ver2s in and 
decided to test one out. Patterns work. However previous works with 
the xl-v1 now have big gaps in them, it turns out I used that rom 
more than I thought! So now the debate is to take my old patterns 
and put in new presets or while having the xl2 for comparison change 
xl-7 patterns to xl1 presets. Besides I'm kind of attached to that 
ole piece of silicone, ya know? I'm just really unsure how important 
the XL7 patterns are to me. Besides I've swapped roms around alot 
lately and I feel as if I am butchering my works everytime:(
Quick question, slow answer!

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "mikeextremesims" <mikeextremesims@y...> 
wrote:
> Tom,
> Quick question: Why are you thinking about replacing the xlver2 
rom 

> with the xlver1?  My understanding is that the XL-7 patterns and 
> songs won't play correctly on an Mp-7 or PX-7 with original xlver1 
> rom, which is the reason EMU released the xlver2 rom.  
> Just curious, Mike
> 
> 
> "Perhaps my run-on sentence did not deliver the message clearly (I
> have an mp-7 by the way). The mp-7 patternsand presets are not
> really geared towards dance [patterns in particular]. You can,
> however, tweak them to do whatever you want. I also have the drum
> rom+px-7patterns, sied rom, and xlver2 rom+xl-7patterns(maybe I'll
> switch back to ver 1). Not to mention my maxxed 2500... Sorry but I
> am very proud of my MP-7 and could ramble for pages about it:) lol"
> TOm

It is quite nice and silver too! I llike the stock soundset. I 
bought it used and maxxed just after the MP-7. The idea at the time 
was to use it to crossfade betwen patterns, but now x-mix has taken 
care of that. I had problems with the sequencer on it for a while 
and being used there was really no recourse in the situation and it 
was used as primarily as a soundmodule. Since updating to 2.0 it has 
run flawlessly and I am currently working on a composition using the 
2500 as the primary sequencer. I am currently not attempting to 
sequence on all 32 channels so I am not using my setup anywhere near 
its capacity, but I am working on it:) I noticed on musicians friend 
it is ~$200 more than the px-7. I don't understand this unless you 
are rackmounting and space is of a premium. Paying more for no keys 
seems unusual although the 2500 does have a knob hold in p[lace of 
the touch strip hold, I believe.
 Tom
ps. are you really a Reverend? If yes,what denomination?

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "patrick a thomas" <revpathomas@y...> 
wrote:
> And how do you like the 2500.  It is just for add'l roms are do 
you sequence
> with it as well?
> 
> Rev P
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: dj 61 [mailto:dj61@d...]
>   Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 8:45 PM
>   To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: [xl7] Re: Questions from a newbie
> 
> 
>   Perhaps my run-on sentence did not deliver the message clearly (I
>   have an mp-7 by the way). The mp-7 patternsand presets are not
>   really geared towards dance [patterns in particular]. You can,
>   however, tweak them to do whatever you want. I also have the drum
>   rom+px-7patterns, sied rom, and xlver2 rom+xl-7patterns(maybe 
I'll
>   switch back to ver 1). Not to mention my maxxed 2500... Sorry 
but I
>   am very proud of my MP-7 and could ramble for pages about it:) 
lol
>   TOm
>   --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Stu" <routerman@z...> wrote:
>   >
>   > | Good luck you will be happy with any command station you 
choose,
>   > |but the mp-7 patterns and soundset are not really geared 
toward
>   > |dance, however you can tweak it to do whatever you want.
>   > |  Tom
>   >
>   > I have to disagree with you there - one of the strengths of the
>   command
>   > stations is that they are infinitely tweakable. I agree that 
the
>   factory
>   > mp-7 presets are more r'n'b and hip hop orientated, but you can
>   still make
>   > techno and drum n bass with them.
>   >
>   > Stu
> 
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