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The external devices will stop and start from the controls on the XL7, but 
they only play the internal patterns (with their limited sequencing 
abilities) not the midi information the XL should be feeding them with. 

>>>So when you press play on the XL-7, the ER-1 etc will start their own 
internal sequencers, but they won't use the midi note data that the XL-7 
is sending, right?  What about if you set the ER-1 etc to not use ext 
sync?  Will that work? With the Korg series, that's the only way I can 
think of to get them to not start their own sequencers...<<<

One last thing to note, whenever I save the pattern, it messes with the 
preset that is called up on the EA1 and ER1 (not the DX200). I know that 
the pattern will hold that information, but I don't know how much room I 
need to leave at the beginning of any track so I can input this 
information ? is one tick enough? Won't this mess up the 
timing of the sequence? 

>>>Well, without testing it, this is all speculation, but I think it WOULD 
affect the timing of your sequence, but only for brief moment the very 
first time that pattern plays.  It won't happen everytime the pattern 
loops, as long as you put the sysex on the first tick, or tick 0.  I think 
that 1 tick will be fine too (in terms of length).<<<

rEalm
(I'll try playing with this some more tonight).







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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> The external devices will stop and start from the controls on the 
XL7, but  they only play the internal patterns (with their limited 
sequencing abilities) not the midi information the XL should be 
feeding them with. 
> 
> >>>So when you press play on the XL-7, the ER-1 etc will start 
their own internal sequencers, but they won't use the midi note data 
that the XL-7 is sending, right? 
-------exactly, they only play their own internal sequence patterns.
> What about if you set the ER-1 etc to not use ext sync?  Will that 
work? With the Korg series, that's the only way I can think of to 
get them to not start their own sequencers...<<<
--------not use ext sync? I could try that, but I would guess that 
it might make their timing get weird, worth a try tho...
> One last thing to note, whenever I save the pattern, it messes 
with the preset that is called up on the EA1 and ER1 (not the 
DX200). I know that the pattern will hold that information, but I 
don't know how much room I need to leave at the beginning of any 
track so I can input this information ? is one tick enough? Won't 
this mess up the timing of the sequence? 
> 
> >>>Well, without testing it, this is all speculation, but I think 
it WOULD affect the timing of your sequence, but only for brief 
moment the very first time that pattern plays.  It won't happen 
everytime the pattern loops, as long as you put the sysex on the 
first tick, or tick 0.  I think that 1 tick will be fine too (in 
terms of length).<<<> 
--------more food for thought. thanks a bunch rEalm, maybe I WILL be 
able to make this work!
Dana

exactly, they only play their own internal sequence patterns.

>>>Perhaps because they are all using a different MIDI channel, the Korg's 
thru's aren't passing on other channels data? Just a guess.  BTW, you see 
the new Electribes that replace the ER-1 and EA-1  :)  <<<

not use ext sync? I could try that, but I would guess that it might make 
their timing get weird, worth a try tho...

>>>The only thign I can see it affecting is teh delay times if you use 
that affect. Every other parameter is independant of tempo sync (at least 
on the ER-1). <<<

rEalm


 


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Try IGNORE ext song start on your ext. boxes

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: dwoodaman 
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 2:37 PM
  Subject: [xl7] Re: trying to make the XL control my external gear


  --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
  > The external devices will stop and start from the controls on the 
  XL7, but  they only play the internal patterns (with their limited 
  sequencing abilities) not the midi information the XL should be 
  feeding them with. 
  > 
  > >>>So when you press play on the XL-7, the ER-1 etc will start 
  their own internal sequencers, but they won't use the midi note data 
  that the XL-7 is sending, right? 
  -------exactly, they only play their own internal sequence patterns.
  > What about if you set the ER-1 etc to not use ext sync?  Will that 
  work? With the Korg series, that's the only way I can think of to 
  get them to not start their own sequencers...<<<
  --------not use ext sync? I could try that, but I would guess that 
  it might make their timing get weird, worth a try tho...
  > One last thing to note, whenever I save the pattern, it messes 
  with the preset that is called up on the EA1 and ER1 (not the 
  DX200). I know that the pattern will hold that information, but I 
  don't know how much room I need to leave at the beginning of any 
  track so I can input this information ? is one tick enough? Won't 
  this mess up the timing of the sequence? 
  > 
  > >>>Well, without testing it, this is all speculation, but I think 
  it WOULD affect the timing of your sequence, but only for brief 
  moment the very first time that pattern plays.  It won't happen 
  everytime the pattern loops, as long as you put the sysex on the 
  first tick, or tick 0.  I think that 1 tick will be fine too (in 
  terms of length).<<<> 
  --------more food for thought. thanks a bunch rEalm, maybe I WILL be 
  able to make this work!
  Dana


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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> exactly, they only play their own internal sequence patterns.
> 
> >>>Perhaps because they are all using a different MIDI channel, 
the Korg's thru's aren't passing on other channels data? Just a 
guess.  BTW, you see the new Electribes that replace the ER-1 and EA-
1  :)  <<<
--------I could try setting them all to the same channel, but that 
just seems sorta I don't know, backward to me. Worth a shot I spose, 
I just wish the xl worked as easy as sonar does.......
I almost held out for one of the new tribes, but I thought the xl 
would be better for ---- controlling external devices........

> not use ext sync? I could try that, but I would guess that it 
might make  their timing get weird, worth a try tho...
> 
> >>>The only thign I can see it affecting is teh delay times if you 
use that affect. Every other parameter is independant of tempo sync 
(at least on the ER-1). <<<
----------good to know that, although I do use the delay timing a 
lot naturally
d

Nah man, BRAND NEW E-tribes announced yesterday, not the ESX-1 or EMX-1.

rEalm





I almost held out for one of the new tribes, but I thought the xl 
would be better for ---- controlling external devices........

> not use ext sync? I could try that, but I would guess that it 
might make  their timing get weird, worth a try tho...
> 
> >>>The only thign I can see it affecting is teh delay times if you 
use that affect. Every other parameter is independant of tempo sync 
(at least on the ER-1). <<<
----------good to know that, although I do use the delay timing a 
lot naturally
d


 


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Whoops, I see those now. Too bad they didn't really make them that 
much better, esp the EA1 with its total crap ADSR.....oh well guess 
I am happy sticking with what I have. I DO think its cool that Korg 
seems to contiune to develop their lines, and not just make one-ff 
things that could be cool if they just developed.....
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Nah man, BRAND NEW E-tribes announced yesterday, not the ESX-1 or 
EMX-1.
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> I almost held out for one of the new tribes, but I thought the xl 
> would be better for ---- controlling external devices........
> 
> > not use ext sync? I could try that, but I would guess that it 
> might make  their timing get weird, worth a try tho...
> > 
> > >>>The only thign I can see it affecting is teh delay times if 
you 
> use that affect. Every other parameter is independant of tempo 
sync 
> (at least on the ER-1). <<<
> ----------good to know that, although I do use the delay timing a 
> lot naturally
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