Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Ok, so I went home last night and sat down to try and figure out this 
weird problem I'm having using some of the advice on the list.  First 
thing I did was sit down and back up everything in my XL-7 (err, really 
just the Multi's as I back everything else up daily anyway), and then 
reloaded the OS.  This went fine and once it was done, the XL-7 appeared 
to be running better.  No more menu delays, and my Presets seem to be ok 
too.  The data wheel was still a bit strange, but I think that might just 
be the data wheel getting on in years (what was the name of the spray you 
guys used to clean it with? I'm too lazy to look it up).

Then, just to be safe, I decided to check the diagnostics too.  Entered 
diagnostic mode (power on while holding both Cursor buttons, in case you 
forgot) and ran all the tests, everything checked out ok.  I go to Screen 
18 to reboot the XL-7, and it turns off and then..... stays off.  Hmm, 
power cycle, it still nothing, dead as a door nail.  I pull the power 
cord, wait 15 minutes, try again, and still nothing.   Tried again a 
couple of hours later, and it still won't power up.

Big thanks to Aaron, the Emu expert, for his sage-like advice.  :)  Hehe, 
just kidding with you man.

Anyway, I get up early this morning and try it again, and lo and behold it 
turns on!  Ok, so now it seems to be working, but I'm not too comfortable 
with it's stability at this point.  Kind of worrisome that took all night 
before it would even turn on again, and I have no explaination what could 
be causing it.  Long story short, everything appears to be fine now, but 
for how long is the question that worries me.  Hopefully I'll know more by 
Monday.

Thanks again to everyone for their advice, except Aaron (hehe, that was a 
joke too).

rEalm

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"what was the name of the spray you guys used to clean it with?"

Over the years I´ve heard of all sorts of wonder potions but i don´t 
have any confidence in them.The liquids may solve the problem short 
term but they love to attract dust which dries up and the problem 
usually comes back to haunt you later.
I would try using compressed air first before/if at all -  any liquid 
gack.
:p

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Ok, so I went home last night and sat down to try and figure out
> this weird problem I'm having using some of the advice on the list.

Did you try reseating the SIMMS, double checking the internal 
connections, and trying a different powercord?

Sorry if this has already been suggested, but better to be 
redundant than totally quiet.

  Is your XL-7 plugged into a decent surge supressor, or straight 
into the wall? I've found that this can really make quite a huge 
difference - surpressors condition the power considerably better 
than a bare wall outlet by keeping the voltage constant and level. 
Those little spikes and dips that come from a wall outlet can damage 
electronics of any sort over time. As for the powered-off-and-not-
back-on-until-morning issue, this could be caused by an electric 
spike - my computer did something similar a few years ago when a 
small surge hit my apartment. It only affected the single computer 
plugged straight into a wall outlet, and it took most of the night 
to dissipate the extra charge that had forced its way into the power 
supply.

  Just some thoughts!

/.e




--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Ok, so I went home last night and sat down to try and figure out 
this 
> weird problem I'm having using some of the advice on the list.  
First 
> thing I did was sit down and back up everything in my XL-7 (err, 
really 
> just the Multi's as I back everything else up daily anyway), and 
then 
> reloaded the OS.  This went fine and once it was done, the XL-7 
appeared 
> to be running better.  No more menu delays, and my Presets seem to 
be ok 
> too.  The data wheel was still a bit strange, but I think that 
might just 
> be the data wheel getting on in years (what was the name of the 
spray you 
> guys used to clean it with? I'm too lazy to look it up).
> 
> Then, just to be safe, I decided to check the diagnostics too.  
Entered 
> diagnostic mode (power on while holding both Cursor buttons, in 
case you 
> forgot) and ran all the tests, everything checked out ok.  I go to 
Screen 
> 18 to reboot the XL-7, and it turns off and then..... stays off.  
Hmm, 
> power cycle, it still nothing, dead as a door nail.  I pull the 
power 
> cord, wait 15 minutes, try again, and still nothing.   Tried again 
a 
> couple of hours later, and it still won't power up.
> 
> Big thanks to Aaron, the Emu expert, for his sage-like 
advice.  :)  Hehe, 
> just kidding with you man.
> 
> Anyway, I get up early this morning and try it again, and lo and 
behold it 
> turns on!  Ok, so now it seems to be working, but I'm not too 
comfortable 
> with it's stability at this point.  Kind of worrisome that took 
all night 
> before it would even turn on again, and I have no explaination 
what could 
> be causing it.  Long story short, everything appears to be fine 
now, but 
> for how long is the question that worries me.  Hopefully I'll know 
more by 
> Monday.
> 
> Thanks again to everyone for their advice, except Aaron (hehe, 
that was a 
> joke too).
> 
> rEalm
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I was about to suggest the same thing, but actually to go buy a $50 
(or larger) UPS device. Not only will the UPS provide the same 
clamping and resistance to brownouts, but it will handle blackout and 
power fluctuation conditions as well.

My advice:
When it comes to power in your studio, even a home studio, you must 
be careful on your electrical wiring and expectations. I usually run 
everything that connects through some additional cable (audio, midi, 
whatever) from the same root UPS, being careful not to over burden 
this device. This gives me the best scenario for keeping electrical 
problems at bay.

It sucks to wake up one morning and have unexplainable problems, or 
worse, completely lose all the data or hardware you had. I know from 
personal experience in a local studio.

I also condition my phone line/cable line if it connects to my music 
PC system.

For some good details on an uninterruptible power supply (UPS) vist:
http://www.howstuffworks.com/question28.htm

Oh, and take one when you play live too. Let someone trip over that 
cable, not your "real" cable.

Just my .02

-T


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "epilogue0282" <yahoo@p...> wrote:
>   Sorry if this has already been suggested, but better to be 
> redundant than totally quiet.
> 
>   Is your XL-7 plugged into a decent surge supressor, or straight 
> into the wall? I've found that this can really make quite a huge 
> difference - surpressors condition the power considerably better 
> than a bare wall outlet by keeping the voltage constant and level. 
> Those little spikes and dips that come from a wall outlet can 
damage 
> electronics of any sort over time. As for the powered-off-and-not-
> back-on-until-morning issue, this could be caused by an electric 
> spike - my computer did something similar a few years ago when a 
> small surge hit my apartment. It only affected the single computer 
> plugged straight into a wall outlet, and it took most of the night 
> to dissipate the extra charge that had forced its way into the 
power 
> supply.
> 
>   Just some thoughts!
> 
> /.e
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > Ok, so I went home last night and sat down to try and figure out 
> this 
> > weird problem I'm having using some of the advice on the list.  
> First 
> > thing I did was sit down and back up everything in my XL-7 (err, 
> really 
> > just the Multi's as I back everything else up daily anyway), and 
> then 
> > reloaded the OS.  This went fine and once it was done, the XL-7 
> appeared 
> > to be running better.  No more menu delays, and my Presets seem 
to 
> be ok 
> > too.  The data wheel was still a bit strange, but I think that 
> might just 
> > be the data wheel getting on in years (what was the name of the 
> spray you 
> > guys used to clean it with? I'm too lazy to look it up).
> > 
> > Then, just to be safe, I decided to check the diagnostics too.  
> Entered 
> > diagnostic mode (power on while holding both Cursor buttons, in 
> case you 
> > forgot) and ran all the tests, everything checked out ok.  I go 
to 
> Screen 
> > 18 to reboot the XL-7, and it turns off and then..... stays off.  
> Hmm, 
> > power cycle, it still nothing, dead as a door nail.  I pull the 
> power 
> > cord, wait 15 minutes, try again, and still nothing.   Tried 
again 
> a 
> > couple of hours later, and it still won't power up.
> > 
> > Big thanks to Aaron, the Emu expert, for his sage-like 
> advice.  :)  Hehe, 
> > just kidding with you man.
> > 
> > Anyway, I get up early this morning and try it again, and lo and 
> behold it 
> > turns on!  Ok, so now it seems to be working, but I'm not too 
> comfortable 
> > with it's stability at this point.  Kind of worrisome that took 
> all night 
> > before it would even turn on again, and I have no explaination 
> what could 
> > be causing it.  Long story short, everything appears to be fine 
> now, but 
> > for how long is the question that worries me.  Hopefully I'll 
know 
> more by 
> > Monday.
> > 
> > Thanks again to everyone for their advice, except Aaron (hehe, 
> that was a 
> > joke too).
> > 
> > rEalm
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"what was the name of the spray you guys used to clean it with?"


     Deoxit D5 made by Caig Laboratories Inc.



     Also, on the power issue, in addition to a UPS, a line conditioner made by Furman is always a
good idea.  You can get one of their cheaper ones which will only iron out the line spikes and
clean up your sound, or you can spend $450 on their Power Conditioner, the AR 1215 or the
discontinued AR 117.  The latter are usually found on eBay for around $250.  The Power Conditioner
will even out the power if it's too high or too low.  An essential tool if you live in a place
with uneven electricity or if you EVER gig out.  (Unless you don't mind replacing your gear every
once in a while...)

     Stephen





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That's what I'm thinkin too .... power cords into xx-7 maybe ... but I know your smart enough to know that!

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: steve_the_composer 
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 12:25 PM
  Subject: [xl7] Re: The continuation of Grrr!


  --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
  > Ok, so I went home last night and sat down to try and figure out
  > this weird problem I'm having using some of the advice on the list.

  Did you try reseating the SIMMS, double checking the internal 
  connections, and trying a different powercord? 



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How old is your XL7?  What year did you buy it?  Just to get an idea of how
old the circuitry is, what hardware revision it may be that sort of thing.

Andre

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Sent: Friday, January 09, 2004 7:29 AM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [xl7] The continuation of Grrr!

Ok, so I went home last night and sat down to try and figure out this 
weird problem I'm having using some of the advice on the list.  First 
thing I did was sit down and back up everything in my XL-7 (err, really 
just the Multi's as I back everything else up daily anyway), and then 
reloaded the OS.  This went fine and once it was done, the XL-7 appeared 
to be running better.  No more menu delays, and my Presets seem to be ok 
too.  The data wheel was still a bit strange, but I think that might just 
be the data wheel getting on in years (what was the name of the spray you 
guys used to clean it with? I'm too lazy to look it up).

Then, just to be safe, I decided to check the diagnostics too.  Entered 
diagnostic mode (power on while holding both Cursor buttons, in case you 
forgot) and ran all the tests, everything checked out ok.  I go to Screen 
18 to reboot the XL-7, and it turns off and then..... stays off.  Hmm, 
power cycle, it still nothing, dead as a door nail.  I pull the power 
cord, wait 15 minutes, try again, and still nothing.   Tried again a 
couple of hours later, and it still won't power up.

Big thanks to Aaron, the Emu expert, for his sage-like advice.  :)  Hehe, 
just kidding with you man.

Anyway, I get up early this morning and try it again, and lo and behold it 
turns on!  Ok, so now it seems to be working, but I'm not too comfortable 
with it's stability at this point.  Kind of worrisome that took all night 
before it would even turn on again, and I have no explaination what could 
be causing it.  Long story short, everything appears to be fine now, but 
for how long is the question that worries me.  Hopefully I'll know more by 
Monday.

Thanks again to everyone for their advice, except Aaron (hehe, that was a 
joke too).

rEalm

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Yeah, those were all things I tried the first night I ran into this 
problem.

rEalm





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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Ok, so I went home last night and sat down to try and figure out
> this weird problem I'm having using some of the advice on the list.

Did you try reseating the SIMMS, double checking the internal 
connections, and trying a different powercord? 


 

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Thanks for the advice.  Yes, my XL-7 is plugged into a decent surge 
suppresor as well as a UPS.  After a failed gig I had due to the XL-7 not 
liking the crappy power supply I was getting from a club (club's fault, 
not the XL-7's), I have been good about making sure that the power going 
to my XL-7 is as clean as possible.

rEalm





  Sorry if this has already been suggested, but better to be 
redundant than totally quiet.

  Is your XL-7 plugged into a decent surge supressor, or straight 
into the wall? 







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Hmm, I'll have to look at my receipt for the exact date I bought it, but 
it was right before they went to $999.00, so probably close to 3 years 
now?

rEalm



How old is your XL7?  What year did you buy it?  Just to get an idea of 
how
old the circuitry is, what hardware revision it may be that sort of thing.

Andre

 







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