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I have a Virus B synthesiser and an Akai S2000 Sampler. I want to be 
able to do the following by using the XL-7, and was wondering what is 
possible. My questions are coming from a live performance 
perspective, where I use an XL-7 as the master controller to sequence 
my synth and sampler. 

Questions:

1) Is it possible to use some of the Track Enable/Mute buttons to 
send a looped sequence of midi notes out the XL-7 MIDI Out A and/or B 
to the synth or sampler? 

2) Is it possible to use the Keypads to trigger the synth or sampler 
like you would with a MIDI keyboard. (Mainly to play Samples on the 
fly)

3) Is it it possible to use the trigger functionality to trigger a 
sequence of notes (instead of one note) to send out the XL-7 MIDI Out 
A and B.

4) Is it possible to change a Track for a Pattern in real-time 
without having to stop the performance. i.e. Change a loop for a 
track while continuing to play live. Or at the very least change the 
entire Pattern so that long live sessions are possible.

Glenn
glennvassallo@...

HI!

I am still researching the XL7 and the RS7000 myself.
But I do believe that you can do 1, 2 and 4 of what
you ask. I am not familiar with application 3, but it 
sounds useful! 

Have you considered the yamaha RS7000 at all? I wanted
to know if you have an opinion.

Cheers!

Rob
--- glennvassallo <glennvassallo@...> wrote:
> 
> I have a Virus B synthesiser and an Akai S2000
> Sampler. I want to be 
> able to do the following by using the XL-7, and was
> wondering what is 
> possible. My questions are coming from a live
> performance 
> perspective, where I use an XL-7 as the master
> controller to sequence 
> my synth and sampler. 
> 
> Questions:
> 
> 1) Is it possible to use some of the Track
> Enable/Mute buttons to 
> send a looped sequence of midi notes out the XL-7
> MIDI Out A and/or B 
> to the synth or sampler? 
> 
> 2) Is it possible to use the Keypads to trigger the
> synth or sampler 
> like you would with a MIDI keyboard. (Mainly to play
> Samples on the 
> fly)
> 
> 3) Is it it possible to use the trigger
> functionality to trigger a 
> sequence of notes (instead of one note) to send out
> the XL-7 MIDI Out 
> A and B.
> 
> 4) Is it possible to change a Track for a Pattern in
> real-time 
> without having to stop the performance. i.e. Change
> a loop for a 
> track while continuing to play live. Or at the very
> least change the 
> entire Pattern so that long live sessions are
> possible.
> 
> Glenn
> glennvassallo@...
> 
> 
> 


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> 1) Is it possible to use some of the Track Enable/Mute buttons to
> send a looped sequence of midi notes out the XL-7 MIDI Out A and/or B
> to the synth or sampler?
hmmm why not? think yes.... I use also a Virus b in my livesets and you can
send arps to midi a or b.... which are played from da virus... all over all
I programm patterns which are looped... isn\ufffdt it the same?
>
> 2) Is it possible to use the Keypads to trigger the synth or sampler
> like you would with a MIDI keyboard. (Mainly to play Samples on the
> fly)
I use an EMU esi-32 and it works..... you\ufffdve only one octave.... but also
the transpose buttons....

> 3) Is it it possible to use the trigger functionality to trigger a
> sequence of notes (instead of one note) to send out the XL-7 MIDI Out
> A and B.
think is that what emu calls ARP\ufffds..... pretty nice feature.... but thats
question one?????

> 4) Is it possible to change a Track for a Pattern in real-time
> without having to stop the performance. i.e. Change a loop for a
> track while continuing to play live. Or at the very least change the
> entire Pattern so that long live sessions are possible
well.... while one pattern is playin you can search for da next one... the
old one playes to da end and than it switch to the new one....
all over all the xl-7 is the best live machine I have ever played... ( also
own before the Yamaha RM1x and the Rolan MC-80)... maybe the rs7000 is also
good, but I don\ufffdt like yamha with thousands of little menues.... .... and
also you say u use an akai sampler... so why the rs7000? also good are the
16 programmable knobs... real great while youre live actin....
greeetz
dietmar
----- Original Message -----

From: "glennvassallo" <glennvassallo@...>
To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:58 AM
Subject: [xl7] Live Performance Features?


>
> I have a Virus B synthesiser and an Akai S2000 Sampler. I want to be
> able to do the following by using the XL-7, and was wondering what is
> possible. My questions are coming from a live performance
> perspective, where I use an XL-7 as the master controller to sequence
> my synth and sampler.
>
> Questions:
>
> 1) Is it possible to use some of the Track Enable/Mute buttons to
> send a looped sequence of midi notes out the XL-7 MIDI Out A and/or B
> to the synth or sampler?
>
> 2) Is it possible to use the Keypads to trigger the synth or sampler
> like you would with a MIDI keyboard. (Mainly to play Samples on the
> fly)
>
> 3) Is it it possible to use the trigger functionality to trigger a
> sequence of notes (instead of one note) to send out the XL-7 MIDI Out
> A and B.
>
> 4) Is it possible to change a Track for a Pattern in real-time
> without having to stop the performance. i.e. Change a loop for a
> track while continuing to play live. Or at the very least change the
> entire Pattern so that long live sessions are possible.
>
> Glenn
> glennvassallo@...
>
>
>
>
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Thanks for the answers, I have explained questions 1 and 3 in more 
detail below.

The difference between my Question 1 and 3 is that I am referring to 
the modes that the XL-7 has. As far as I am aware you can set the 
buttons to use "Track Enable/Mute" or "Triggers". 

Q1. I want to be able to send a sequence (loop) out the MIDI Outs to 
my synth and/or sampler instead of to the XL-7 internal sounds. For 
example button 1-4 enable/mute the loops for the XL-7 internal drum 
set. Then button 5-8 are configured to enable/mute loops that are 
sent to my Virus b via the XL-7 MIDI Out A, then buttons 9-12 to my 
sampler via MIDI Out B.

Q3. When the buttons are in "Triggers" mode I know it is possible to 
send one note to an external device such as my sampler, but is it 
possible to send a sequence of notes (a loop) that I have programmed 
(i.e. not just an arppegiator of one note)

Thanks,
Glenn
glennvassallo@...

--- In xl7@y..., "www.mp3.com/koering" <A.Libi@b...> wrote:
> 
> 
> > 1) Is it possible to use some of the Track Enable/Mute buttons to
> > send a looped sequence of midi notes out the XL-7 MIDI Out A 
and/or B
> > to the synth or sampler?
> hmmm why not? think yes.... I use also a Virus b in my livesets and 
you can
> send arps to midi a or b.... which are played from da virus... all 
over all
> I programm patterns which are looped... isn´t it the same?
> >
> > 2) Is it possible to use the Keypads to trigger the synth or 
sampler
> > like you would with a MIDI keyboard. (Mainly to play Samples on 
the
> > fly)
> I use an EMU esi-32 and it works..... you´ve only one octave.... 
but also
> the transpose buttons....
> 
> > 3) Is it it possible to use the trigger functionality to trigger a
> > sequence of notes (instead of one note) to send out the XL-7 MIDI 
Out
> > A and B.
> think is that what emu calls ARP´s..... pretty nice feature.... but 
thats
> question one?????
> 
> > 4) Is it possible to change a Track for a Pattern in real-time
> > without having to stop the performance. i.e. Change a loop for a
> > track while continuing to play live. Or at the very least change 
the
> > entire Pattern so that long live sessions are possible
> well.... while one pattern is playin you can search for da next 
one... the
> old one playes to da end and than it switch to the new one....
> all over all the xl-7 is the best live machine I have ever 
played... ( also
> own before the Yamaha RM1x and the Rolan MC-80)... maybe the rs7000 
is also
> good, but I don´t like yamha with thousands of little 
menues.... .... and
> also you say u use an akai sampler... so why the rs7000? also good 
are the
> 16 programmable knobs... real great while youre live actin....
> greeetz
> dietmar
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "glennvassallo" <glennvassallo@h...>
> To: <xl7@y...>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 7:58 AM
> Subject: [xl7] Live Performance Features?
> 
> 
> >
> > I have a Virus B synthesiser and an Akai S2000 Sampler. I want to 
be
> > able to do the following by using the XL-7, and was wondering 
what is
> > possible. My questions are coming from a live performance
> > perspective, where I use an XL-7 as the master controller to 
sequence
> > my synth and sampler.
> >
> > Questions:
> >
> > 1) Is it possible to use some of the Track Enable/Mute buttons to
> > send a looped sequence of midi notes out the XL-7 MIDI Out A 
and/or B
> > to the synth or sampler?
> >
> > 2) Is it possible to use the Keypads to trigger the synth or 
sampler
> > like you would with a MIDI keyboard. (Mainly to play Samples on 
the
> > fly)
> >
> > 3) Is it it possible to use the trigger functionality to trigger a
> > sequence of notes (instead of one note) to send out the XL-7 MIDI 
Out
> > A and B.
> >
> > 4) Is it possible to change a Track for a Pattern in real-time
> > without having to stop the performance. i.e. Change a loop for a
> > track while continuing to play live. Or at the very least change 
the
> > entire Pattern so that long live sessions are possible.
> >
> > Glenn
> > glennvassallo@h...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
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> >
> >
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> >

fort wayne writes........
> Have you considered the yamaha RS7000 at all? 

No I have not. My reason is that I currently have a EMU XL-1 and love 
it. I would never get rid of it if I was not going to get the XL-7. 
But since I am strongly leaning that way I will be trading my XL-1 
during my XL-7 purchase. The other point is that I have a sampler, 
Akai S2000 so do not require those features as much.

Glenn.

--- In xl7@y..., fort wayne <mediaworksus@y...> wrote:

> HI!
> 
> I am still researching the XL7 and the RS7000 myself.
> But I do believe that you can do 1, 2 and 4 of what
> you ask. I am not familiar with application 3, but it 
> sounds useful! 
> 
> Have you considered the yamaha RS7000 at all? I wanted
> to know if you have an opinion.
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Rob
> --- glennvassallo <glennvassallo@h...> wrote:
> > 
> > I have a Virus B synthesiser and an Akai S2000
> > Sampler. I want to be 
> > able to do the following by using the XL-7, and was
> > wondering what is 
> > possible. My questions are coming from a live
> > performance 
> > perspective, where I use an XL-7 as the master
> > controller to sequence 
> > my synth and sampler. 
> > 
> > Questions:
> > 
> > 1) Is it possible to use some of the Track
> > Enable/Mute buttons to 
> > send a looped sequence of midi notes out the XL-7
> > MIDI Out A and/or B 
> > to the synth or sampler? 
> > 
> > 2) Is it possible to use the Keypads to trigger the
> > synth or sampler 
> > like you would with a MIDI keyboard. (Mainly to play
> > Samples on the 
> > fly)
> > 
> > 3) Is it it possible to use the trigger
> > functionality to trigger a 
> > sequence of notes (instead of one note) to send out
> > the XL-7 MIDI Out 
> > A and B.
> > 
> > 4) Is it possible to change a Track for a Pattern in
> > real-time 
> > without having to stop the performance. i.e. Change
> > a loop for a 
> > track while continuing to play live. Or at the very
> > least change the 
> > entire Pattern so that long live sessions are
> > possible.
> > 
> > Glenn
> > glennvassallo@h...
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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1) Is it possible to use some of the Track Enable/Mute buttons to send a 
looped sequence of midi notes out the XL-7 MIDI Out A and/or B to the 
synth or sampler? 

>>>Yes, you can specify whether a track goes to teh internal XL-7 sounds, 
or to either MIDI out A or B.  It can also go to BOTH the internal sounds 
and external synths if you want. <<<

2) Is it possible to use the Keypads to trigger the synth or sampler like 
you would with a MIDI keyboard.

>>> Yes, I use it to control soft synths all the time. <<<

3) Is it it possible to use the trigger functionality to trigger a 
sequence of notes (instead of one note) to send out the XL-7 MIDI Out A 
and B.

>>>What you want is similiar to Roland's "RPS" or Korg's "RPPR" features. 
Unfortunately I don't think it's possible with trigger buttons.  You could 
program it as a regular track sent to a MIDI port though, and just use the 
track mute buttons to do the same thing. Albeit at a loss of a regular 
track though. <<<

4) Is it possible to change a Track for a Pattern in real-time without 
having to stop the performance. i.e. Change a loop for a track while 
continuing to play live. Or at the very least change the entire Pattern so 
that long live sessions are possible.

>>>Most definitely, and that's the way nmost of us do live work I would 
wager.  You can switch patterns on the fly quite easily, as well as switch 
between tracks for tweaking. <<<<

rEalm

glennvassallo wrote:

> Thanks for the answers, I have explained questions 1 and 3 in more
> detail below.
>
> The difference between my Question 1 and 3 is that I am referring to
> the modes that the XL-7 has. As far as I am aware you can set the
> buttons to use "Track Enable/Mute" or "Triggers".

Correct.


> Q1. I want to be able to send a sequence (loop) out the MIDI Outs to
> my synth and/or sampler instead of to the XL-7 internal sounds. For
> example button 1-4 enable/mute the loops for the XL-7 internal drum
> set. Then button 5-8 are configured to enable/mute loops that are
> sent to my Virus b via the XL-7 MIDI Out A, then buttons 9-12 to my
> sampler via MIDI Out B.

Yes.  Each track has the assignability to be internal, external, or both.
Each track also has the ability to hold up to 16 channels of data.  You could
set up your rig as follows:

track 1-4: controlling *internal* synth channels 1-32 (01-16A, 01-16B)
track 5-8: controlling *external* MIDI A channels for your Virus (ext 01-16A)

track 9-12: controlling *external* MIDI B channels for your sampler (ext
01-16B)
track 13-16: whatever you want, maybe even some "both" tracks controlling
XL-7 *and* Virus


> Q3. When the buttons are in "Triggers" mode I know it is possible to
> send one note to an external device such as my sampler, but is it
> possible to send a sequence of notes (a loop) that I have programmed
> (i.e. not just an arppegiator of one note)

The way to do this (at least as I see it) is to create your own arp patterns
(they are quite flexible) and put them on some unused internal channels (like
14B or something) and turn the volume down for that track.  Turn arp transmit
on and then that arp pattern will play external gear.  Note that
"arpeggiator" is probably an insufficient word for what arp patterns really
are.  The are much like RPPR or RPS features when in pattern mode (as opposed
to up/down type modes).


> Thanks,
> Glenn
> glennvassallo@...

Stop by the NAMM booth to see this very thing in action!

-Aaron