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2004-01-07 by isomakcb
sorry, repost with better subject I'm getting 'pop' noises prior to the effects on my brand new px-7...it happens when playing a kick and a synth sound at the same time... it's appearing to happen only to certain drum kits, here's some of the ones it's happened to me on: Filt 2d rim Squeezvortex Lectrophonic Danger Jabberwocky OddSkool*IDM AM-LoFi Broken 8-bit SuperSquishy I'm sure there's more, but i'm tired right now and want to go to sleep...
2004-01-07 by Bruddah Max
isomakcb wrote: > sorry, repost with better subject > > I'm getting 'pop' noises prior to the effects on my brand new px-7...it > happens when > playing a kick and a synth sound at the same time... > > it's appearing to happen only to certain drum kits, here's some of the ones > it's > happened to me on: > > Filt 2d rim > Squeezvortex > Lectrophonic > Danger > Jabberwocky > OddSkool*IDM > AM-LoFi > Broken 8-bit > SuperSquishy > > I'm sure there's more, but i'm tired right now and want to go to sleep... and i thought you were only supposed to get a "pop" noise out of the Proteus 2500! (sorry, couldn't resist) i get digital clipping sometimes with multiple parts on my XL-7 - but usually if the volume is really high for each part - when you go to part mix on the knobs and reduce volume on the synth and/or drums, does the pop sound go away? -- Bruddah Max Lord of the Dance
2004-01-07 by Chris Isomaki
no, it's always there no matter what i set the levels to :-\ i turned the drums all the way down and i still hear it, the volume of the pop changes with the volume of the drum track...so it's all in those drum kits. On Jan 6, 2004, at 11:54 PM, Bruddah Max wrote: > isomakcb wrote: > >> sorry, repost with better subject >> >> I'm getting 'pop' noises prior to the effects on my brand new >> px-7...it >> happens when >> playing a kick and a synth sound at the same time... >> >> it's appearing to happen only to certain drum kits, here's some of >> the ones >> it's >> happened to me on: >> >> Filt 2d rim >> Squeezvortex >> Lectrophonic >> Danger >> Jabberwocky >> OddSkool*IDM >> AM-LoFi >> Broken 8-bit >> SuperSquishy >> >> I'm sure there's more, but i'm tired right now and want to go to >> sleep... > > and i thought you were only supposed to get a "pop" noise out of the > Proteus > 2500! > > (sorry, couldn't resist) > > i get digital clipping sometimes with multiple parts on my XL-7 - but > usually if the volume is really high for each part - when you go to > part mix > on the knobs and reduce volume on the synth and/or drums, does the pop > sound > go away? > -- > Bruddah Max > Lord of the Dance > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark > Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & > Canada. > http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/pWZylB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ~-> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >
2004-01-12 by dj 61
I had not noticed this whaen creating songs with my drum rom, but last night I was palying around in pattern with xmix marvelling at the wonders of a smoothly flowing continuous mix or rather the possibility of one and behold the popping sounds. In the original pattern the track plays fine but when xmixed here it popped and popped alot. I muted all other tracks, and still popping. How did I make this stop? hit the stop button. It appears this must be a gliche in the rom, uh,oh! I dug up this post looking for answers. I would hope realm would know something being one of the first users of this, but it appears his whole machine has popped. Someone please help or you could be next! --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "isomakcb" <isomakcb@y...> wrote: > sorry, repost with better subject > > I'm getting 'pop' noises prior to the effects on my brand new px- 7...it happens when > playing a kick and a synth sound at the same time... > > it's appearing to happen only to certain drum kits, here's some of the ones it's > happened to me on: > > Filt 2d rim > Squeezvortex > Lectrophonic > Danger > Jabberwocky > OddSkool*IDM > AM-LoFi > Broken 8-bit > SuperSquishy > > I'm sure there's more, but i'm tired right now and want to go to sleep...
2004-01-12 by Chris Isomaki
I'm exchanging mine for another one from musiciansfriend..hoping its a defect in the rom/unit itself. i'll let you know when i get the replacement if it's still there... (about a week and a half, unfortunately) -chris On Jan 12, 2004, at 2:00 AM, dj 61 wrote: > I had not noticed this whaen creating songs with my drum rom, but > last night I was palying around in pattern with xmix marvelling at > the wonders of a smoothly flowing continuous mix or rather the > possibility of one and behold the popping sounds. In the original > pattern the track plays fine but when xmixed here it popped and > popped alot. I muted all other tracks, and still popping. How did I > make this stop? hit the stop button. It appears this must be a > gliche in the rom, uh,oh! I dug up this post looking for answers. I > would hope realm would know something being one of the first users > of this, but it appears his whole machine has popped. Someone please > help or you could be next! > > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "isomakcb" <isomakcb@y...> wrote: >> sorry, repost with better subject >> >> I'm getting 'pop' noises prior to the effects on my brand new px- > 7...it happens when >> playing a kick and a synth sound at the same time... >> >> it's appearing to happen only to certain drum kits, here's some of > the ones it's >> happened to me on: >> >> Filt 2d rim >> Squeezvortex >> Lectrophonic >> Danger >> Jabberwocky >> OddSkool*IDM >> AM-LoFi >> Broken 8-bit >> SuperSquishy >> >> I'm sure there's more, but i'm tired right now and want to go to > sleep... > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark > Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & > Canada. > http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/pWZylB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ~-> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >
2004-01-12 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
It only happens during XMIX? Are the effects different from one Pattern to the next? rEalm I had not noticed this whaen creating songs with my drum rom, but last night I was palying around in pattern with xmix marvelling at the wonders of a smoothly flowing continuous mix or rather the possibility of one and behold the popping sounds. In the original pattern the track plays fine but when xmixed here it popped and popped alot. The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s)or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive privilege or confidentiality. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. For Translation: http://www.baxter.com/email_disclaimer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-12 by faxorgy
This must be a problem with the rom. Are you sure you hands weren't charged with static when installing. I ordered the Xtreme Lead ,Vintage pro and Protean Drum roms from Emu via phone here in Australia (arrived within 5 days I might add) ;). The Drum rom on my Mp-7 works 100% ,no pops or any strange idosyncratic problems what so ever. So it definately is not the ROM samples themselves but something else causing troubles.
2004-01-12 by dj 61
I thought the same and figured it was an isolated instance when the post was made. I have Created several patterns and then created songs and replaced some of the drums in older patterns. I have been using it for over a month no problem. But then it hits pop after pop. This was on the broken 8-bit (I don't think it should be that broken!) in x-mix. I believe this is one of the ones listed in the original post. I know it is not the samples because they have been used must be a certain set of conditions maybe a combination with certain effects settings. I would imagine this would case a little caos live, although I guess you could just glare at the soundman (person). (Just kidding sound guys/gals):p --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "faxorgy" <Oscar_Finch@e...> wrote: > This must be a problem with the rom. > Are you sure you hands weren't charged with static when installing. > I ordered the Xtreme Lead ,Vintage pro and Protean Drum roms from > Emu via phone here in Australia (arrived within 5 days I might > add) ;). > The Drum rom on my Mp-7 works 100% ,no pops or any strange > idosyncratic problems what so ever. > So it definately is not the ROM samples themselves but something > else causing troubles.
2004-01-12 by critten98
I have noticed some similar loud popping sounds on my xl-1 with beat garden when: Syncing to MIDI clock then changing presets while auditiong. The pops are very loud and seem to be related to the effects. I checked and my system was setup to use the effects settings on channel 1, so when chnainging these presets, I was changing global effect types as well. Maybe setting the master option to a global efect setting (not using a particular midi channel as the source of effect settings) is the fix? --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dj 61" <dj61@d...> wrote: > I thought the same and figured it was an isolated instance when the > post was made. I have Created several patterns and then created > songs and replaced some of the drums in older patterns. I have been > using it for over a month no problem. But then it hits pop after > pop. This was on the broken 8-bit (I don't think it should be that > broken!) in x-mix. I believe this is one of the ones listed in the > original post. I know it is not the samples because they have been > used must be a certain set of conditions maybe a combination with > certain effects settings. I would imagine this would case a little > caos live, although I guess you could just glare at the soundman > (person). > (Just kidding sound guys/gals):p > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "faxorgy" <Oscar_Finch@e...> wrote: > > This must be a problem with the rom. > > Are you sure you hands weren't charged with static when installing. > > I ordered the Xtreme Lead ,Vintage pro and Protean Drum roms from > > Emu via phone here in Australia (arrived within 5 days I might > > add) ;). > > The Drum rom on my Mp-7 works 100% ,no pops or any strange > > idosyncratic problems what so ever. > > So it definately is not the ROM samples themselves but something > > else causing troubles.
2004-01-12 by dj 61
This is the only time I have incurred it. I was thinking fx as well and put that in the previous post. I knew I should've read your post before replying! I was using fx set to prset chan. 10 and have no recollection of the preset used there. Maybe isomakcb can fill us in on what fx settings he was using. --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote: > It only happens during XMIX? Are the effects different from one Pattern > to the next? > > rEalm > > > > > > I had not noticed this whaen creating songs with my drum rom, but > last night I was palying around in pattern with xmix marvelling at > the wonders of a smoothly flowing continuous mix or rather the > possibility of one and behold the popping sounds. In the original > pattern the track plays fine but when xmixed here it popped and > popped alot. > > > > > > > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s)or entity > to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally > privileged material. Delivery of this message to any person other than > the intended recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive privilege > or confidentiality. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other > use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any computer. > > For Translation: > > http://www.baxter.com/email_disclaimer > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-12 by dj 61
Possibly. Is it true that each pattern carries setup info with it, so that when I save a pattern all fx settings are saved with it and will be implemented upon selecting the pattern again? I think I read a post that said something like this before... I've just been using the preset to carry fx info. --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "critten98" <travis.crittenden@c...> wrote: > I have noticed some similar loud popping sounds on my xl-1 with beat > garden when: > > Syncing to MIDI clock then changing presets while auditiong. The pops > are very loud and seem to be related to the effects. I checked and my > system was setup to use the effects settings on channel 1, so when > chnainging these presets, I was changing global effect types as well. > > Maybe setting the master option to a global efect setting (not using > a particular midi channel as the source of effect settings) is the > fix? > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dj 61" <dj61@d...> wrote: > > I thought the same and figured it was an isolated instance when the > > post was made. I have Created several patterns and then created > > songs and replaced some of the drums in older patterns. I have been > > using it for over a month no problem. But then it hits pop after > > pop. This was on the broken 8-bit (I don't think it should be that > > broken!) in x-mix. I believe this is one of the ones listed in the > > original post. I know it is not the samples because they have been > > used must be a certain set of conditions maybe a combination with > > certain effects settings. I would imagine this would case a little > > caos live, although I guess you could just glare at the soundman > > (person). > > (Just kidding sound guys/gals):p > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "faxorgy" <Oscar_Finch@e...> wrote: > > > This must be a problem with the rom. > > > Are you sure you hands weren't charged with static when > installing. > > > I ordered the Xtreme Lead ,Vintage pro and Protean Drum roms from > > > Emu via phone here in Australia (arrived within 5 days I might > > > add) ;). > > > The Drum rom on my Mp-7 works 100% ,no pops or any strange > > > idosyncratic problems what so ever. > > > So it definately is not the ROM samples themselves but something > > > else causing troubles.
2004-01-12 by isomakcb
I reset my px-7 to factory settings, erased all sequence data, and was able to recreate the pops using one of the kits i orignally listed along with 2 other patches. i dont even know how to use xmix myself yet, i just programmed a beat and POP POP POP POP POP As I said it was brand spankin new, I didn't open it up, so I never touched the ROM itself. I REALLY hope this doesn't return with the new unit.... -chris --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote: > It only happens during XMIX? Are the effects different from one Pattern > to the next? > > rEalm > > > > > > I had not noticed this whaen creating songs with my drum rom, but > last night I was palying around in pattern with xmix marvelling at > the wonders of a smoothly flowing continuous mix or rather the > possibility of one and behold the popping sounds. In the original > pattern the track plays fine but when xmixed here it popped and > popped alot. > > > > > > > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s)or entity > to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally > privileged material. Delivery of this message to any person other than > the intended recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive privilege > or confidentiality. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other > use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > material from any computer. > > For Translation: > > http://www.baxter.com/email_disclaimer > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-12 by dj 61
What fx settings were you using? I am not familiar with the factory settings for the px. --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "isomakcb" <isomakcb@y...> wrote: > I reset my px-7 to factory settings, erased all sequence data, and > was able to recreate the pops using one of the kits i orignally > listed along with 2 other patches. i dont even know how to use xmix > myself yet, i just programmed a beat and POP POP POP POP POP > > As I said it was brand spankin new, I didn't open it up, so I never > touched the ROM itself. I REALLY hope this doesn't return with the > new unit.... > > -chris > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote: > > It only happens during XMIX? Are the effects different from one > Pattern > > to the next? > > > > rEalm > > > > > > > > > > > > I had not noticed this whaen creating songs with my drum rom, but > > last night I was palying around in pattern with xmix marvelling at > > the wonders of a smoothly flowing continuous mix or rather the > > possibility of one and behold the popping sounds. In the original > > pattern the track plays fine but when xmixed here it popped and > > popped alot. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s)or > entity > > to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or > legally > > privileged material. Delivery of this message to any person other > than > > the intended recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive > privilege > > or confidentiality. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or > other > > use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information > by > > entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you > > receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the > > material from any computer. > > > > For Translation: > > > > http://www.baxter.com/email_disclaimer > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-12 by Aaron Eppolito
If you could email me some patterns, I could take a look at it. My guess is, though, that you're clipping the filters. Nevermind. I just checked and found the problem. The MS20 instrument in conjunction with the EarlyRizer filter at high Q causes pops. Try 038'3 kit:Lectrophonic and play the closed hi-hat (F#1) a bunch of times and you'll hear it. Change the filter on layer 2 and it goes away. Work around would be to lower Q on the offending presets. This is the downside of having very resonant, very sharp 12th order filters... =) -Aaron --- Chris Isomaki <isomakcb@...> wrote: > I'm exchanging mine for another one from musiciansfriend.. > > On Jan 12, 2004, at 2:00 AM, dj 61 wrote: > > > and behold the popping sounds. > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "isomakcb" <isomakcb@y...> wrote: > > > I'm getting 'pop' noises prior...it happens when > > > playing a kick and a synth sound at the same time... > >> Filt 2d rim 003'3 > >> Squeezvortex > >> Lectrophonic > >> Danger > >> Jabberwocky > >> OddSkool*IDM > >> AM-LoFi > >> Broken 8-bit > >> SuperSquishy __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
2004-01-12 by Chris Isomaki
i have no idea, i havnt played with it much because i think it's busted. as far as email the other guy patterns...cant do it....all my computers only have os x on them right now, and by the time i get 9 on one, it'll be gone. the earlyrizer filter appears to be the culprit though...what kind of crap is this? oh well, i dont really ever use more than one instrument at a time on any of my synths anyway i always record out and apply more effects and/or time correct anyway. i'm just a little upset, but at east my px-7 isnt busted :) it just sucks that i found a limitation of the machine the DAY i got it, within hours even. thanks everyone :) i dont think i'll really miss one filter that much anyway. -chris On Jan 12, 2004, at 4:51 PM, dj 61 wrote: > What fx settings were you using? I am not familiar with the factory > settings for the px. > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "isomakcb" <isomakcb@y...> wrote: >> I reset my px-7 to factory settings, erased all sequence data, and >> was able to recreate the pops using one of the kits i orignally >> listed along with 2 other patches. i dont even know how to use > xmix >> myself yet, i just programmed a beat and POP POP POP POP POP >> >> As I said it was brand spankin new, I didn't open it up, so I > never >> touched the ROM itself. I REALLY hope this doesn't return with > the >> new unit.... >> >> -chris >> >> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote: >>> It only happens during XMIX? Are the effects different from one >> Pattern >>> to the next? >>> >>> rEalm >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> I had not noticed this whaen creating songs with my drum rom, > but >>> last night I was palying around in pattern with xmix marvelling > at >>> the wonders of a smoothly flowing continuous mix or rather the >>> possibility of one and behold the popping sounds. In the > original >>> pattern the track plays fine but when xmixed here it popped and >>> popped alot. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s)or >> entity >>> to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or >> legally >>> privileged material. Delivery of this message to any person > other >> than >>> the intended recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive >> privilege >>> or confidentiality. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or >> other >>> use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this > information >> by >>> entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you >>> receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the >>> material from any computer. >>> >>> For Translation: >>> >>> http://www.baxter.com/email_disclaimer >>> >>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ >
2004-01-12 by Aaron Eppolito
--- Chris Isomaki <isomakcb@...> wrote: > the earlyrizer filter appears to be the culprit though... > what kind of crap is this? The machine is not broken, the filter is not broken, the samples are fine. The only thing that could be considered "wrong" would be preset design, in that they chose to turn up Q a little too high for that preset. But who's to say that the preset designer didn't *want* a click? > oh well, i dont really ever use more than one instrument at a > time on any of my synths anyway That's a red herring. I get the problem without any other tracks. > it just sucks that i found a limitation of the > machine the DAY i got it, within hours even. It could be considered a feature depending on your point of view. Being able to create that much energy with a resonant filter is a good thing in many situations. > i dont think i'll really miss one filter that much anyway. That filter is great, you don't have to discontinue it's use. It however is *very* peaky as you've noticed. Simply turn down Q till you get the desired effect. The MS20 samples apparrently have some energy exactly where that filter has a lot of resonance, hence the pop. -Aaron __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus
2004-01-13 by dj 61
Ahh, THat explains other pops and clicks I have gotten when working
on really wild presets on th phatt using early rise, however they
went away when reducing the number of presets playing at once. Now I
can go back adjust resonance and add my drums back in. It is also
nice to know that about the drum presets, could this still be
resultant with certain effects combos as I did not always get the
click. No keyboard access, huh? Guess I'll survive;)
Also I'll take this moment to give you your proper respects for
your work on an extraordinary machine that never ceases to amaze me.
I also appreciate how closely you have worked with this list.
Although I am relatively new, I have seen you posts throughout the
archives and noticed how the suggestions of the group have greatly
influenced the functions of machine I have today. I assume that you
are in a large part responsible for this.
May you be blessed with every knob tweak, track mute, and key press,
Tom Hughes
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> If you could email me some patterns, I could take a look at it. My
> guess is, though, that you're clipping the filters.
>
> Nevermind. I just checked and found the problem. The MS20
instrument
> in conjunction with the EarlyRizer filter at high Q causes pops.
Try
> 038'3 kit:Lectrophonic and play the closed hi-hat (F#1) a bunch of
> times and you'll hear it. Change the filter on layer 2 and it goes
> away. Work around would be to lower Q on the offending presets.
This
> is the downside of having very resonant, very sharp 12th order
> filters... =)
>
> -Aaron
>
> --- Chris Isomaki <isomakcb@y...> wrote:
> > I'm exchanging mine for another one from musiciansfriend..
> >
> > On Jan 12, 2004, at 2:00 AM, dj 61 wrote:
> >
> > > and behold the popping sounds.
> > >
> > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "isomakcb" <isomakcb@y...> wrote:
> > > > I'm getting 'pop' noises prior...it happens when
> > > > playing a kick and a synth sound at the same time...
> > >> Filt 2d rim 003'3
> > >> Squeezvortex
> > >> Lectrophonic
> > >> Danger
> > >> Jabberwocky
> > >> OddSkool*IDM
> > >> AM-LoFi
> > >> Broken 8-bit
> > >> SuperSquishy
>
> __________________________________
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> http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/signingbonus2004-01-13 by phest2k
Hi all I´ve been away for a few days and WOW, so many messages here.The groups getting more like a chat room.Excellent stuff. As for the "pop-noise" issue: I think its a case of the tail wagging the dog here (horse pushing the cart - whatever cliché you want).You need to step back a few paces and think about what your trying to do. i.e -putting tons of filter and Q on really HEAVY bass sounds. It´s a kind of oxymoronic exercise anyway (IMO).This can only work with some filters and not with others. If you´re a bass-head (aren´t we all) try turning the Q DOWN and turning UP the bass on your mixer or amplifier - this gives you a bit more headroom and helps avoiding "digital distortion" (sometimes;)! Give me the best mixer/headphones/speekers on the market straight out of their box and I´ll guarentee I could get a distorted output - but this doesn´t mean thay they´re broken. As Aaron pointed out, there´s definatly a creative opportunity here. Exploit it! Paul
2004-01-13 by steve_the_composer
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dj 61" <dj61@d...> wrote: > Possibly. Is it true that each pattern carries setup info with it, > so that when I save a pattern all fx settings are saved with it and > will be implemented upon selecting the pattern again? I think I > read a post that said something like this before... I've just been > using the preset to carry fx info. I don't know if it relates to the pop, but I do recall seeing sysex data stored with patterns. I will look using E-Loader utilities.
2004-01-13 by Chris Isomaki
Ok, i was using unedited preset sounds here, not turning any knobs. Right out of the box a machine should NOT do that if i put a bass drum with 16th notes over it. i didn't even know about those filters till yesterday!!! so i wasnt doing anything extreme here, ok do this, go to an empty sequence, put C1 of "Lectrophonic" (038^3) on 16th notes 1,11, and 12 with velocity of 84. put D1 of "Lectrophonic" on 16th notes 5,8, and 13. now go to track/channel 2 and put C3 of "WayFayer" (113^1) on every 16th note for the bar, also velocity of 84. And i still get the popping if i set the velocity of C1 and D1 of "Lectrophonic" to 5!!! Lots of popping, Never touched filter settings, just using presets. Setting the Q to 0 doesn't get rid of the popping either. And the popping isn't consistent. It always happens on a drum hit, but sometimes it skips a few. But it always goes away upon removal/change of that filter (to a different one)... So I wasn't trying to do anything crazy. I layered 2 presets and boom. (more like pop) there it was. I'm just saying they could have done better testing. I wish i could just stick a limiter in that thing. I'll bring the drum machine to work today and get the pattern off it. -Chris On Jan 13, 2004, at 6:42 AM, phest2k wrote: > Hi all > I´ve been away for a few days and WOW, so many messages here.The > groups getting more like a chat room.Excellent stuff. > > As for the "pop-noise" issue: > I think its a case of the tail wagging the dog here (horse pushing the > cart - whatever cliché you want).You need to step back a few paces and > think about what your trying to do. i.e -putting tons of filter and Q > on really HEAVY bass sounds. It´s a kind of oxymoronic exercise anyway > (IMO).This can only work with some filters and not with others. If > you´re a bass-head (aren´t we all) try turning the Q DOWN and turning > UP the bass on your mixer or amplifier - this gives you a bit more > headroom and helps avoiding "digital distortion" (sometimes;)! > > Give me the best mixer/headphones/speekers on the market straight out > of their box and I´ll guarentee I could get a distorted output - but > this doesn´t mean thay they´re broken. > As Aaron pointed out, there´s definatly a creative opportunity here. > Exploit it! > > Paul > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark > Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & > Canada. > http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/pWZylB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ~-> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-13 by Cornell
I have a proteus rom installed in my mp. It's got wah wah guitar effects. Someone mentioned using filters to get that slow wah effect that I am looking for. Can anyone explain how to go about it? I'm clueless in Dallas. Thanks. Brotha Cee --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-13 by steve_the_composer
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "dj 61" <dj61@d...> wrote: > Possibly. Is it true that each pattern carries setup info with it, > so that when I save a pattern all fx settings are saved with it and > will be implemented upon selecting the pattern again? I think I > read a post that said something like this before... I've just been > using the preset to carry fx info. I just checked data stored with patterns that confirms FX sysex transmission when switching patterns. METHOD 1: 1. Start MIDI Monitor (E-Loader1.1) 2. Enable display of all data 3. In Pattern View Mode, transport stopped, scroll to next pattern. RESULTS-RUN 1 (using P2500 demo pattern): 1. Initial ctrl values for 7, 10, 79 2. 72-byte sysex data starting F0 18 0F 55 01 20 01 04 . . . . F7 RESULTS FROM OTHER TEST RUNS (including switch to empty patterns and switch to/within song mode) --ptchbend sent --order: ch 0 --> ch 15 settings (respectively), then sysex data --on occasion: modesel ch 0: mode:AllNotesOff (123) val: 0 sent ----with ctrllr ch 0: ctrl: 64 val: 0 F0 18 0F 55 01 = sysex that says edit the following parameters 20 = number of byte pairs to follow (32 pairs, 64 bytes) 01 04 = parameter ID (address of where data will go) . . . . = data for 01 04, followed by 02 04 + data --> 10 04 + data F7 = end of sysex command PARAMETER IDs (LSB MSB) 01 04 to 10 04 = Master Effects Parameters (see p. 49 sysex manual version 2.2) This seems to confirm that switching patterns transmits Master Effects Parameter values after sending controller data. I encourage others to use the MIDI Monitor to examine midi data flow. Hope this helps. --Dr. Steve --Resident Sysex Guru, semi-retired PS: RTZ (pressing stop 2x) transmits controller data only--NOT Master Effects Parameters!! BTW: Think of the sequencer and synth engine as two separate things here. What MIDI Monitor shows as being sent via midi is being sent by the transport to the internal synth engine.
2004-01-13 by steve_the_composer
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote: > The MS20 instrument > in conjunction with the EarlyRizer filter at high Q causes pops. > Try 038'3 kit:Lectrophonic and play the closed hi-hat (F#1) a > bunch of times and you'll hear it. Change the filter on layer 2 > and it goes away. Work around would be to lower Q on the offending > presets. This is the downside of having very resonant, very sharp > 12th order filters... =) Might changing Sample Start or Loop values provide another workaround and let the user retain the filter? Just a thought.
2004-01-13 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
Basically, you want to use the "EQ+ and Bandpass type" filters to emulate the sound of the wah pedal. I don't know what filter to recommend (haven't tried this yet), but play around with them and you should find one that will be close to what you want. Adjust the Resonance to suit, and you can tweak the knob just liek you were stepping on a pedal. If you set up the Filter envelopes, you can approximate an "auto wah" too. Try these filters: - Contraband - Swept1>1Oct - Earbender rEalm I have a proteus rom installed in my mp. It's got wah wah guitar effects. Someone mentioned using filters to get that slow wah effect that I am looking for. Can anyone explain how to go about it? I'm clueless in Dallas. Thanks. Brotha Cee --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Hotjobs: Enter the "Signing Bonus" Sweepstakes [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s)or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive privilege or confidentiality. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. For Translation: http://www.baxter.com/email_disclaimer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-13 by steve_the_composer
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Cornell <brothacee@y...> wrote: > > I have a proteus rom installed in my mp. It's got wah wah guitar effects. Someone mentioned using filters to get that slow wah effect that I am looking for. Can anyone explain how to go about it? I'm clueless in Dallas. Thanks. > > Brotha Cee I seem to recall posting a series of steps to do something like this. Someone wanted to take the oscilating sweep and apply it to other presets. If I am recalling this correctly and if it is what you want, search the archives for my name. I will look myself and will post the link if I find it before you do. BTW, what preset (###^#: xxx.xxxxxxx) from the proteus rom are you trying to use for the pattern? Basic idea: use lfo to control filter parameter(s). Hope this helps.
2004-01-13 by steve_the_composer
--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Cornell <brothacee@y...> wrote: > > I have a proteus rom installed in my mp. It's got wah wah guitar effects. Someone mentioned using filters to get that slow wah effect that I am looking for. Can anyone explain how to go about it? I'm clueless in Dallas. Thanks. > > Brotha Cee Found it!! Don't know if this is what you had in mind, but this is what I was remembering: From: "steve_the_composer" Date: Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:15 am Subject: Tutorial: Filter Sweeps for E-Mu Musicians (not dummies!!!) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/11104 Let me know if this helps. It will make me feel useful!!
2004-01-13 by steve_the_composer
> From: "steve_the_composer" > Date: Fri Oct 31, 2003 9:15 am > Subject: Tutorial: Filter Sweeps for E-Mu Musicians (not dummies!!!) > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/xl7/message/11104 > rEalm's the master programmer around here. I suggest: (1) start with the wah-wah preset you want (2) follow the set of steps at message 11104 (3) using the parameters rEalm recommends (4) post a set of rom, patchcord, filter settings for others to try
2004-01-13 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
Hardly, I'm just really lucky with that "Randomize Preset" function :) rEalm (it's all in the wrist) rEalm's the master programmer around here. The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s)or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive privilege or confidentiality. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. For Translation: http://www.baxter.com/email_disclaimer [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-13 by DJ 4TFY
I just installed my x-lead rom into a new px-7 yesterday. I am getting small pop sounds as well........
steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote:--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> The MS20 instrument
> in conjunction with the EarlyRizer filter at high Q causes pops.
> Try 038'3 kit:Lectrophonic and play the closed hi-hat (F#1) a
> bunch of times and you'll hear it. Change the filter on layer 2
> and it goes away. Work around would be to lower Q on the offending
> presets. This is the downside of having very resonant, very sharp
> 12th order filters... =)
Might changing Sample Start or Loop values provide another workaround
and let the user retain the filter? Just a thought.
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2004-01-13 by Turby Schmidt
>I just installed my x-lead rom into a new px-7 yesterday. I am getting >small pop sounds as well........ > >steve_the_composer <smw-mail@...> wrote> Might changing Sample >Start or Loop values provide another workaround >and let the user retain the filter? Just a thought. if you got this click issue just if you use sequences upped by eloader try to reajust the pattern size using the expand to x bars comand from the patter menu .........another thought _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail