Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Hey everyone, I just ordered myself a px-7, wooohooo!  I plan on adding the x-lead 
v2 rom and pure phatt rom's to it, I'm so exited...I just have one question for anyone 
who also has an Alesis qs-6.x/7.x/8.x/r here....

I currently have the latin expansion card for my qs-r, and I want to add another card 
to the qs-r...since I'm going to get the pure phatt rom, I'm not going to get the hip 
hop qcard...I'm not interested in piano sounds at the moment, so that gets rid of the 
piano qcards...and since i'm getting the x-lead v2 rom, I'm not going to bother with 
the eurodance qcard...which brings me to my question...

Does anybody have any opinions on the vintage synths qcard vs the vintage rom?  It's 
either vintage synths qcard vs the sanctuary qcard for me.

...And if you're wondering, the other stuff I have is (are?): Reason 2.5, ReCycle 2 (not 
that that makes much of a difference in this case), Logic Platinum (I've played with the 
demo of the es-1, not sure if I'm going to purchase that or not, I might get the es-2, 
or the synth collection somewhere down the line, but I only have a G4 400, so untill I 
upgrade that I'm not going to bother)

And I'm also posting this question in a alesis synth group.  Thank you for your help :)

isomakcb wrote:

> Does anybody have any opinions on the vintage synths qcard vs the vintage rom?
> It's 
> either vintage synths qcard vs the sanctuary qcard for me.

when i had my QS (just sold it actually) i had the vintage synths card -
don't bother. it tries to fake around the QS's lack of filter resonance with
all sorts of sample layering tricks, and 90% of the card is "Alaska" type
sweeps - big reverberating pads that don't really sound like any vintage
synth i've ever heard. there is an excellent KPR-77 drum bank, but it's not
worth getting the rest of the card for.

sanctuary card has some good organs and choirs, but little else - it's
designed for church use and has lots of AMENs in various keys.

you're better off getting an SRAM card and loading it up with 8 banks of
patches - there are some really great patches in Alesis's Expando banks.

-- 
Bruddah Max
Lord of the Dance

Thanks, I think I have an 8 meg pcmcia card around here somewhere, i could use that.  
I also forgot to mention I have a CS1x, but that wasn't worth mentioning anyway, 
haha.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Bruddah Max <bruddahmax@c...> wrote:

> isomakcb wrote:
> 
> > Does anybody have any opinions on the vintage synths qcard vs the vintage rom?
> > It's 
> > either vintage synths qcard vs the sanctuary qcard for me.
> 
> when i had my QS (just sold it actually) i had the vintage synths card -
> don't bother. it tries to fake around the QS's lack of filter resonance with
> all sorts of sample layering tricks, and 90% of the card is "Alaska" type
> sweeps - big reverberating pads that don't really sound like any vintage
> synth i've ever heard. there is an excellent KPR-77 drum bank, but it's not
> worth getting the rest of the card for.
> 
> sanctuary card has some good organs and choirs, but little else - it's
> designed for church use and has lots of AMENs in various keys.
> 
> you're better off getting an SRAM card and loading it up with 8 banks of
> patches - there are some really great patches in Alesis's Expando banks.
> 
> -- 
> Bruddah Max
> Lord of the Dance

If I may ask, what's wrong with the Eurodance card? In spite of 
its name, there are TONS of really excellent sounds on there!

/.e

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "isomakcb" <isomakcb@y...> wrote:
> Hey everyone, I just ordered myself a px-7, wooohooo!  I plan on 
adding the x-lead 
> v2 rom and pure phatt rom's to it, I'm so exited...I just have one 
question for anyone 
> who also has an Alesis qs-6.x/7.x/8.x/r here....
> 
> I currently have the latin expansion card for my qs-r, and I want 
to add another card 
> to the qs-r...since I'm going to get the pure phatt rom, I'm not 
going to get the hip 
> hop qcard...I'm not interested in piano sounds at the moment, so 
that gets rid of the 
> piano qcards...and since i'm getting the x-lead v2 rom, I'm not 
going to bother with 
> the eurodance qcard...which brings me to my question...
> 
> Does anybody have any opinions on the vintage synths qcard vs the 
vintage rom?  It's 
> either vintage synths qcard vs the sanctuary qcard for me.
> 
> ...And if you're wondering, the other stuff I have is (are?): 
Reason 2.5, ReCycle 2 (not 
> that that makes much of a difference in this case), Logic Platinum 
(I've played with the 
> demo of the es-1, not sure if I'm going to purchase that or not, I 
might get the es-2, 
> or the synth collection somewhere down the line, but I only have a 
G4 400, so untill I 
> upgrade that I'm not going to bother)
> 
> And I'm also posting this question in a alesis synth group.  Thank 
you for your help :)

I never said there was something wrong with it!!
I was just thinking of the limitations of the qs-r and it might not be worth it for me to 
buy it.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "epilogue0282" <yahoo@p...> wrote:

>   If I may ask, what's wrong with the Eurodance card? In spite of 
> its name, there are TONS of really excellent sounds on there!
> 
> /.e
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "isomakcb" <isomakcb@y...> wrote:
> > Hey everyone, I just ordered myself a px-7, wooohooo!  I plan on 
> adding the x-lead 
> > v2 rom and pure phatt rom's to it, I'm so exited...I just have one 
> question for anyone 
> > who also has an Alesis qs-6.x/7.x/8.x/r here....
> > 
> > I currently have the latin expansion card for my qs-r, and I want 
> to add another card 
> > to the qs-r...since I'm going to get the pure phatt rom, I'm not 
> going to get the hip 
> > hop qcard...I'm not interested in piano sounds at the moment, so 
> that gets rid of the 
> > piano qcards...and since i'm getting the x-lead v2 rom, I'm not 
> going to bother with 
> > the eurodance qcard...which brings me to my question...
> > 
> > Does anybody have any opinions on the vintage synths qcard vs the 
> vintage rom?  It's 
> > either vintage synths qcard vs the sanctuary qcard for me.
> > 
> > ...And if you're wondering, the other stuff I have is (are?): 
> Reason 2.5, ReCycle 2 (not 
> > that that makes much of a difference in this case), Logic Platinum 
> (I've played with the 
> > demo of the es-1, not sure if I'm going to purchase that or not, I 
> might get the es-2, 
> > or the synth collection somewhere down the line, but I only have a 
> G4 400, so untill I 
> > upgrade that I'm not going to bother)
> > 
> > And I'm also posting this question in a alesis synth group.  Thank 
> you for your help :)

Ahh, got it :)

/.e


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "isomakcb" <isomakcb@y...> wrote:
> I never said there was something wrong with it!!
> I was just thinking of the limitations of the qs-r and it might 
not be worth it for me to 
> buy it.
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "epilogue0282" <yahoo@p...> wrote:
> >   If I may ask, what's wrong with the Eurodance card? In spite 
of 
> > its name, there are TONS of really excellent sounds on there!
> > 
> > /.e
> > 
> > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "isomakcb" <isomakcb@y...> wrote:
> > > Hey everyone, I just ordered myself a px-7, wooohooo!  I plan 
on 
> > adding the x-lead 
> > > v2 rom and pure phatt rom's to it, I'm so exited...I just have 
one 
> > question for anyone 
> > > who also has an Alesis qs-6.x/7.x/8.x/r here....
> > > 
> > > I currently have the latin expansion card for my qs-r, and I 
want 
> > to add another card 
> > > to the qs-r...since I'm going to get the pure phatt rom, I'm 
not 
> > going to get the hip 
> > > hop qcard...I'm not interested in piano sounds at the moment, 
so 
> > that gets rid of the 
> > > piano qcards...and since i'm getting the x-lead v2 rom, I'm 
not 
> > going to bother with 
> > > the eurodance qcard...which brings me to my question...
> > > 
> > > Does anybody have any opinions on the vintage synths qcard vs 
the 
> > vintage rom?  It's 
> > > either vintage synths qcard vs the sanctuary qcard for me.
> > > 
> > > ...And if you're wondering, the other stuff I have is (are?): 
> > Reason 2.5, ReCycle 2 (not 
> > > that that makes much of a difference in this case), Logic 
Platinum 
> > (I've played with the 
> > > demo of the es-1, not sure if I'm going to purchase that or 
not, I 
> > might get the es-2, 
> > > or the synth collection somewhere down the line, but I only 
have a 
> > G4 400, so untill I 
> > > upgrade that I'm not going to bother)
> > > 
> > > And I'm also posting this question in a alesis synth group.  
Thank 
> > you for your help :)

Hi isomakcb,

Just thought I'd chime in with my opinions on your situation.  I 
don't actually have a QS, but a friend does, and I'm familiar with 
many of the sounds.

I just got a PX-7 a couple of weeks ago, and I'm quite pleased with 
it.  I've been a fan of E-mu gear for several years, and I've always 
thought that drums were the weak spot, sonically speaking.  No more.  
E-mu have finally rectified this long-standing weakness.  The PX-7 
[Protean Drums] sounds are VERY good, and should be able to address 
most styles quite well.  To put it bluntly, it swiftly kicks ass.  A 
pleasant surprise: the cymbal decays are VERY LONG and NATURAL 
sounding!  Nice!

Now, as for the Vintage ROM:

The Vintage expansion may just be the overall BEST expansion ROM E-mu 
ever made, in terms of out-of-the-box-usability, sonic diversity, 
differentness (minimum of overlap with other soundsets).  I recommend 
it very highly.  It is great, and largely underappreciated (read: not 
overused)

Buy it now, while you still can.  (Anyone know what's going on with E-
mu and the availability of their product line?)

Andy Hutson
Mesa, Arizona

Proteus 2000 with
- X-Lead
- Sounds of the ZR
- Orchestral Sessions II

PX-7 with
- Vintage Collection
- World Expedition

ROMs I have owned, but got rid of:
- Techno Synth Construction Yard
- Beat Garden
- Protozoa
(all too dated for my taste)


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "isomakcb" <isomakcb@y...> wrote:
> Hey everyone, I just ordered myself a px-7, wooohooo!  I plan on 
adding the x-lead 
> v2 rom and pure phatt rom's to it, I'm so exited...I just have one 
question for anyone 
> who also has an Alesis qs-6.x/7.x/8.x/r here....