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eliminate spam -- make membership "approve only"

eliminate spam -- make membership "approve only"

2003-12-01 by just john

When I complained about group spam a couple weeks ago, I got this 
from the group owner.


>>John,
>>
>>I get these already, as part of the group. Unfortunately, there's
>>little I can do to prevent them - I could go to a 'approve only'
>>membership, but yahoo's implementation of this can be problematic -
>>I've got another group where people were waiting for weeks to get
>>added.
>>
>>I'm not sure what we can do about this - banning spoofed accounts
>>doesn't do much. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.


In other yahoogroups I'm in that DO have the "approve only" option 
set to on, I have seen NO problems.

So I wonder what the other group members think about this.  I vote 
for going "approve only."  Anybody else?


(And have you noticed how EVERY SINGLE GROUP SPAM is for websites 
based on MCI?)
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Re: [xl7] eliminate spam -- make membership "approve only"

2003-12-01 by Greg Waltzer

"approve only" is the way to go. (the first post is moderated)
The list owner can appoint other moderators to help in keeping approvals 
timely.

just john wrote:

>When I complained about group spam a couple weeks ago, I got this 
>from the group owner.
>
>
>  
>
>>>John,
>>>
>>>I get these already, as part of the group. Unfortunately, there's
>>>little I can do to prevent them - I could go to a 'approve only'
>>>membership, but yahoo's implementation of this can be problematic -
>>>I've got another group where people were waiting for weeks to get
>>>added.
>>>
>>>I'm not sure what we can do about this - banning spoofed accounts
>>>doesn't do much. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.
>>>      
>>>
>
>
>In other yahoogroups I'm in that DO have the "approve only" option 
>set to on, I have seen NO problems.
>
>So I wonder what the other group members think about this.  I vote 
>for going "approve only."  Anybody else?
>
>
>(And have you noticed how EVERY SINGLE GROUP SPAM is for websites 
>based on MCI?)
>  
>


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Re: [xl7] eliminate spam -- make membership "approve only"

2003-12-01 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Approve only is a real pain, leads to more hassles than it's worth from my 
past Yahoogroups experiences.  We only get a couple of spams a week if 
that, that's not too bad now is it? 

Also, whoever keeps passing on the spam to moderators attention, it's 
really not neccesary.  I appreciate it, but there's nothing I can do 
except remove the addy from our list, and I do that anyway when I see 
these types of emails.  As most of these are group mailings that hit 
multiple lists at once, it's out of our hands to control.

rEalm






"just john" <justjohn@...>
12/01/2003 08:36 AM
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When I complained about group spam a couple weeks ago, I got this 
from the group owner.


>>John,
>>
>>I get these already, as part of the group. Unfortunately, there's
>>little I can do to prevent them - I could go to a 'approve only'
>>membership, but yahoo's implementation of this can be problematic -
>>I've got another group where people were waiting for weeks to get
>>added.
>>
>>I'm not sure what we can do about this - banning spoofed accounts
>>doesn't do much. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.


In other yahoogroups I'm in that DO have the "approve only" option 
set to on, I have seen NO problems.

So I wonder what the other group members think about this.  I vote 
for going "approve only."  Anybody else?


(And have you noticed how EVERY SINGLE GROUP SPAM is for websites 
based on MCI?)
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Re: [xl7] eliminate spam -- make membership "approve only"

2003-12-01 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

What about new members are moderated?? It works for me on 10 lists.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: just john 
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:36 AM
  Subject: [xl7] eliminate spam -- make membership "approve only"


  When I complained about group spam a couple weeks ago, I got this 
  from the group owner.


  >>John,
  >>
  >>I get these already, as part of the group. Unfortunately, there's
  >>little I can do to prevent them - I could go to a 'approve only'
  >>membership, but yahoo's implementation of this can be problematic -
  >>I've got another group where people were waiting for weeks to get
  >>added.
  >>
  >>I'm not sure what we can do about this - banning spoofed accounts
  >>doesn't do much. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.


  In other yahoogroups I'm in that DO have the "approve only" option 
  set to on, I have seen NO problems.

  So I wonder what the other group members think about this.  I vote 
  for going "approve only."  Anybody else?


  (And have you noticed how EVERY SINGLE GROUP SPAM is for websites 
  based on MCI?)
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Re: [xl7] eliminate spam -- make membership "approve only"

2003-12-01 by just john

>
>Also, whoever keeps passing on the spam to moderators attention, it's
>really not neccesary.


The xl7-owner@yahoogroups.com address is set up by yahoo specifically 
for reporting xl7 group abuse of this sort (abuse@yahoogroups.com is 
a general address.)  If you're tired of getting abuse reports, 
eliminate the abuse.
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Re: [xl7] eliminate spam -- make membership "approve only"

2003-12-01 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com

Don't you still have to approve all their messages though?

rEalm





"Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@...>
12/01/2003 09:00 AM
Please respond to xl7

 
        To:     xl7@yahoogroups.com
        cc:
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        Subject:        Re: [xl7] eliminate spam -- make membership "approve
only"


What about new members are moderated?? It works for me on 10 lists.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: just john 
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:36 AM
  Subject: [xl7] eliminate spam -- make membership "approve only"


  When I complained about group spam a couple weeks ago, I got this 
  from the group owner.


  >>John,
  >>
  >>I get these already, as part of the group. Unfortunately, there's
  >>little I can do to prevent them - I could go to a 'approve only'
  >>membership, but yahoo's implementation of this can be problematic -
  >>I've got another group where people were waiting for weeks to get
  >>added.
  >>
  >>I'm not sure what we can do about this - banning spoofed accounts
  >>doesn't do much. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.


  In other yahoogroups I'm in that DO have the "approve only" option 
  set to on, I have seen NO problems.

  So I wonder what the other group members think about this.  I vote 
  for going "approve only."  Anybody else?


  (And have you noticed how EVERY SINGLE GROUP SPAM is for websites 
  based on MCI?)
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Re: [xl7] eliminate spam -- make membership "approve only"

2003-12-01 by Greg Waltzer

You can set it so that only new members are moderated.
Once their first post has been approved, they are no longer moderated.
That eliminates 99% of the spam, even though they keep changing their 
originating address.

erik_magrini@... wrote:
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>Don't you still have to approve all their messages though?
>
>rEalm
>
>
>
>
>
>"Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@...>
>12/01/2003 09:00 AM
>Please respond to xl7
>
> 
>        To:     xl7@yahoogroups.com
>        cc: 
>        Subject:        Re: [xl7] eliminate spam -- make membership "approve
>only"
>
>
>What about new members are moderated?? It works for me on 10 lists.
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: just john 
>  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
>  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:36 AM
>  Subject: [xl7] eliminate spam -- make membership "approve only"
>
>
>  When I complained about group spam a couple weeks ago, I got this 
>  from the group owner.
>
>
>  >>John,
>  >>
>  >>I get these already, as part of the group. Unfortunately, there's
>  >>little I can do to prevent them - I could go to a 'approve only'
>  >>membership, but yahoo's implementation of this can be problematic -
>  >>I've got another group where people were waiting for weeks to get
>  >>added.
>  >>
>  >>I'm not sure what we can do about this - banning spoofed accounts
>  >>doesn't do much. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.
>
>
>  In other yahoogroups I'm in that DO have the "approve only" option 
>  set to on, I have seen NO problems.
>
>  So I wonder what the other group members think about this.  I vote 
>  for going "approve only."  Anybody else?
>  
>

Re: [xl7] eliminate spam -- make membership "approve only"

2003-12-01 by Ravi Ivan Sharma

Only the first one. You set "new members moderated" Then only new members messages need to be approved. But all you do is approve and change that member to not moderated. Then you simply ban all new members who are spamming and disapprove their messages. It takes me 1 to 2 minutes every two days to manage many lists this way. It all depends on how much the moderators care about thier lists or not.
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 10:54 AM
  Subject: Re: [xl7] eliminate spam -- make membership "approve only"


  Don't you still have to approve all their messages though?

  rEalm





  "Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@...>
  12/01/2003 09:00 AM
  Please respond to xl7


          To:     xl7@yahoogroups.com
          cc: 
          Subject:        Re: [xl7] eliminate spam -- make membership "approve
  only"


  What about new members are moderated?? It works for me on 10 lists.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: just john 
    To: xl7@yahoogroups.com 
    Sent: Monday, December 01, 2003 9:36 AM
    Subject: [xl7] eliminate spam -- make membership "approve only"


    When I complained about group spam a couple weeks ago, I got this 
    from the group owner.


    >>John,
    >>
    >>I get these already, as part of the group. Unfortunately, there's
    >>little I can do to prevent them - I could go to a 'approve only'
    >>membership, but yahoo's implementation of this can be problematic -
    >>I've got another group where people were waiting for weeks to get
    >>added.
    >>
    >>I'm not sure what we can do about this - banning spoofed accounts
    >>doesn't do much. If you have any suggestions, please let me know.


    In other yahoogroups I'm in that DO have the "approve only" option 
    set to on, I have seen NO problems.

    So I wonder what the other group members think about this.  I vote 
    for going "approve only."  Anybody else?


    (And have you noticed how EVERY SINGLE GROUP SPAM is for websites 
    based on MCI?)
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