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Hi peops,
Ive read long time ago an article in this list, explaining why mpc 
sequencer gave a strange swing/feel to midi (it talked about ppq, 
quantize et cubase in it)
Someome know what im talking about ?

If u can answer me and give me a link to it it would be great.

Well, the original MPC's PPQ is 96, which is quite coarse (96 PPQ =
256th note triplets).  In comparison, the XL-7 is 384, many software
seqs are 480 or 960.  It's entirely possible that the coarse resolution
yields a distinctive feel to the sound, though I have no personal
knowledge to back that up...

-Aaron

--- buju_be <buju_be@...> wrote:
> Hi peops,
> Ive read long time ago an article in this list, explaining why mpc 
> sequencer gave a strange swing/feel to midi (it talked about ppq, 
> quantize et cubase in it) Someome know what im talking about ?

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Yeah,
 
for certain styles of music the ppq of a sequencer can impact the feel of it.  I'm sure everyone has heard of hip-hop and electronic music using the MPC a lot, especially for sequencing beats.  The theory is, when you're playing a riff, or pounding out a beat, the sequencer is not capturing your actual performance, it's basically quantizing you to whatever resolution it has.  If you played jazz into an MPC it would not come out sounding fluid.

Sorry I don't have any links.  If you're having trouble finding info on the subject try typing ppqn instead of just ppq.

-Wesley



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Hey,

  The mpc 4000 ppq is 960.  If you play jazz...don't quantize.   

  When I work w/ cubase, I will make sure I don't leave any blank 
tracks.  So, if you want to keep only track 16..make sure to assign  
blank  tracks to 1-15.   





--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Wesley D <Serfiss@y...> wrote:
> Yeah,
>  
> for certain styles of music the ppq of a sequencer can impact 
the feel of it.  I'm sure everyone has heard of hip-hop and 
electronic music using the MPC a lot, especially for sequencing 
beats.  The theory is, when you're playing a riff, or pounding out a 
beat, the sequencer is not capturing your actual performance, it's 
basically quantizing you to whatever resolution it has.  If you 
played jazz into an MPC it would not come out sounding fluid.
> 
> Sorry I don't have any links.  If you're having trouble finding info 
on the subject try typing ppqn instead of just ppq.
> 
> -Wesley
> 
> 
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Yeah, 
Thx All :-), this article was explaining how MPC could give hard feel 
to a sequence. Its something that sound bizarre that each sequencer 
could give a particuliar feeling to one unique midi sequence. An 
HipHop music producer friend of mine told me that a same sequence 
played on logic and qy700 gave 2 differents swings/feels !! That's 
why I wanted to play with different settings to give BAD grooves. 
Marf, i think now i should consider stay concentrated only on sound 
(!). 
Anyway, you people out here do you use swings settings hardly ? or do 
you write your pattern note by note with different (im)precisions ?

I use the swing quantize all the time, for drums, a typically starting 
setting for me would be:

Quantize = 16th
Amount = 65%
Swing = 54%

rEalm



Anyway, you people out here do you use swings settings hardly ? or do 
you write your pattern note by note with different (im)precisions ?





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The MPC's are known for having really tight timing, not really for a 
strange swing (hold on though, I know what you're getting at).  The reason 
they have tight timing, is that while they use MIDI for sequencing (duh), 
they don't use it for internal data transmission within the sequencer, so 
they aren't limited to the MIDI spec's serial nature.  So their groove 
templates and swing settings are sought after not because they are strange 
or that different from any other sequencer, but because the timing is so 
tight on them.

rEalm





Hi peops,
Ive read long time ago an article in this list, explaining why mpc 
sequencer gave a strange swing/feel to midi (it talked about ppq, 
quantize et cubase in it)
Someome know what im talking about ?

If u can answer me and give me a link to it it would be great.



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Sorry to contradict Eric (and I should thank him in passing for all
his work on this group) but there was indeed a discussion either here
or possibly the MC909 or MPC list, and the upshot of some testing was
that when you quantize on an MPC it rounds a few of the numbers down
instead of up as on the EMUs and the 909, and as a consequence you
actually get a slightly different feel. This is the swing hip hop
people rave about. There are MPC templates for sequencer programmes
like Logic which will provide this.  The MIDI/sound thing that rEalm
mentions is a reference to the fact that psocessing ROM samples eats
up processor power and can cause lagging.  The MPC does not have this
problem because it has no internal ROM.  
By the way, if anyone can find the postings which give the MPC
quantize values please let me know (pkirkup@...).
P


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> The MPC's are known for having really tight timing, not really for a 
> strange swing (hold on though, I know what you're getting at).  The
reason 
> they have tight timing, is that while they use MIDI for sequencing
(duh), 
> they don't use it for internal data transmission within the
sequencer, so 
> they aren't limited to the MIDI spec's serial nature.  So their groove 
> templates and swing settings are sought after not because they are
strange 
> or that different from any other sequencer, but because the timing
is so 
> tight on them.
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi peops,
> Ive read long time ago an article in this list, explaining why mpc 
> sequencer gave a strange swing/feel to midi (it talked about ppq, 
> quantize et cubase in it)
> Someome know what im talking about ?
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Thanks for the clarification!

rEalm





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Sorry to contradict Eric (and I should thank him in passing for all
his work on this group) but there was indeed a discussion either here
or possibly the MC909 or MPC list, and the upshot of some testing was
that when you quantize on an MPC it rounds a few of the numbers down
instead of up as on the EMUs and the 909, and as a consequence you
actually get a slightly different feel. This is the swing hip hop
people rave about. There are MPC templates for sequencer programmes
like Logic which will provide this.  The MIDI/sound thing that rEalm
mentions is a reference to the fact that psocessing ROM samples eats
up processor power and can cause lagging.  The MPC does not have this
problem because it has no internal ROM. 
By the way, if anyone can find the postings which give the MPC
quantize values please let me know (pkirkup@...).
P


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> The MPC's are known for having really tight timing, not really for a 
> strange swing (hold on though, I know what you're getting at).  The
reason 
> they have tight timing, is that while they use MIDI for sequencing
(duh), 
> they don't use it for internal data transmission within the
sequencer, so 
> they aren't limited to the MIDI spec's serial nature.  So their groove 
> templates and swing settings are sought after not because they are
strange 
> or that different from any other sequencer, but because the timing
is so 
> tight on them.
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Hi peops,
> Ive read long time ago an article in this list, explaining why mpc 
> sequencer gave a strange swing/feel to midi (it talked about ppq, 
> quantize et cubase in it)
> Someome know what im talking about ?
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> If u can answer me and give me a link to it it would be great.
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--- uwodsi <pkirkup@...> wrote:
> psocessing ROM samples eats up processor power and can cause
> lagging.  The MPC does not have this problem because it has
> no internal ROM.

Right symptom, wrong reason.  Reading ROM is no different than reading
memory.  The reason that the MPC is quicker to play a note is because
it is not a synthesizer.  No patch cords, no 6 stage envelopes, no 50
different 12 & 6 pole filters, no pattern arps, no effects by default,
etc.  The XL-7 (and to some degree the 909 too) is a powerful
synthesizer in addition to sequencer.  In fact, as most of you know, it
started out as an XL-1, so the sequencer was added much later.

-Aaron

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Rob

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "uwodsi" <pkirkup@c...> wrote:
> Sorry to contradict Eric (and I should thank him in passing for all
> his work on this group) but there was indeed a discussion either 
here
> or possibly the MC909 or MPC list, and the upshot of some testing 
was
> that when you quantize on an MPC it rounds a few of the numbers 
down
> instead of up as on the EMUs and the 909, and as a consequence you
> actually get a slightly different feel. This is the swing hip hop
> people rave about. There are MPC templates for sequencer programmes
> like Logic which will provide this.  The MIDI/sound thing that 
rEalm
> mentions is a reference to the fact that psocessing ROM samples 
eats
> up processor power and can cause lagging.  The MPC does not have 
this
> problem because it has no internal ROM.  
> By the way, if anyone can find the postings which give the MPC
> quantize values please let me know (pkirkup@c...).
> P
> 
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> > The MPC's are known for having really tight timing, not really 
for a 
> > strange swing (hold on though, I know what you're getting at).  
The
> reason 
> > they have tight timing, is that while they use MIDI for 
sequencing
> (duh), 
> > they don't use it for internal data transmission within the
> sequencer, so 
> > they aren't limited to the MIDI spec's serial nature.  So their 
groove 
> > templates and swing settings are sought after not because they 
are
> strange 
> > or that different from any other sequencer, but because the 
timing
> is so 
> > tight on them.
> > 
> > rEalm
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Hi peops,
> > Ive read long time ago an article in this list, explaining why 
mpc 
> > sequencer gave a strange swing/feel to midi (it talked about 
ppq, 
> > quantize et cubase in it)
> > Someome know what im talking about ?
> > 
> > If u can answer me and give me a link to it it would be great.
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on 12/16/03 7:12 PM, rob@... wrote:

> The MPC does have a ROM.  You can buy one here if you like:
> http://www.rogerlinndesign.com/01products/mpc60.html

doh!

yes, it has a ROM chip in it, but has *nothing* to do
with the context of the discussion, so:

you are awarded zero points!


meh,
aeon

Going to Namm this year?

Andre

--- Andre Lewis <andrel@...> wrote:
> Going to Namm this year?

Yep.  Though not at the booth you're probably expecting...

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> Yep.  Though not at the booth you're probably expecting...
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Well, I suppose now is as good time as any.  I'm surprised none of you
had guessed it before, given my lack of an emu.com address.  =)

I was laid off from E-mu in August of 2002.  Yes, 2002.  After much
convincing by Sean, they hired me back as a contractor from December'02
thru March'03 to do 2.00.  While a sweet gig for a while (coding at
home is kinda nice), it was only a 12 week project.  Fast-forward (past
me watching a lot of movies and playing a lot of video games) to July
2003.

I interviewed and was hired at Apple to work on a product called
Soundtrack.  http://www.apple.com/soundtrack  Sort of ironic that a
die-hard PC guy got hired at Apple, but I'm really loving it.  So long
story short, at NAMM, you'll see me in the Apple/emagic booth.

Never fear, E-mu's not going away, I'm not going away, and your command
station will continue to be one of the best deals out there...

-Aaron

PS.  I do have the ability/option to update software for the command
stations, but I have a few too many side projects at the moment.  Stay
tuned for those too...

--- "[cYcLoThYmIqUe]" <poumtschak@...> wrote:
> Will the booth be labelled "Creative Professional"? :)
> http://tinyurl.com/2xnkr
> 
> Aaron Eppolito wrote:
> > Yep.  Though not at the booth you're probably expecting...

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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> Well, I suppose now is as good time as any.  I'm surprised none of 
you
> had guessed it before, given my lack of an emu.com address.  =)
> 
> I was laid off from E-mu in August of 2002.  Yes, 2002.  After much
> convincing by Sean, they hired me back as a contractor from 
December'02
> thru March'03 to do 2.00.  While a sweet gig for a while (coding at
> home is kinda nice), it was only a 12 week project.  Fast-forward 
(past
> me watching a lot of movies and playing a lot of video games) to 
July
> 2003.
> 
> I interviewed and was hired at Apple to work on a product called
> Soundtrack.  http://www.apple.com/soundtrack  Sort of ironic that a
> die-hard PC guy got hired at Apple, but I'm really loving it.  So 
long
> story short, at NAMM, you'll see me in the Apple/emagic booth.
> 
> Never fear, E-mu's not going away, I'm not going away, and your 
command
> station will continue to be one of the best deals out there...
> 
> -Aaron
> 
> PS.  I do have the ability/option to update software for the command
> stations, but I have a few too many side projects at the moment.  
Stay
> tuned for those too...
> 
> --- "[cYcLoThYmIqUe]" <poumtschak@f...> wrote:
> > Will the booth be labelled "Creative Professional"? :)
> > http://tinyurl.com/2xnkr
> > 
> > Aaron Eppolito wrote:
> > > Yep.  Though not at the booth you're probably expecting...
> 
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> PS.  I do have the ability/option to update software for the command
> stations, but I have a few too many side projects at the moment.  Stay
> tuned for those too...

I would pay for the power to use midi to select patterns remotely.

-m@

I've offered to set up a PayPal thing for Aaron to keep working on teh OS, 
but I don't think he's interested.  Still, maybe it's time for a new 
wishlist thread?

rEalm





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> PS.  I do have the ability/option to update software for the command
> stations, but I have a few too many side projects at the moment.  Stay
> tuned for those too...

I would pay for the power to use midi to select patterns remotely.

-m@



 

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This is one of the reasons I kept saying that we were so lucky to even get 
OS 2.0 (though for obvious reasons I couldn't say why), Aaron wasn't even 
an Emu amployee when he did it!  Talk about support too, he doesn't even 
work for Emu and still takes time to help us out!  Huge thanks man!

rEalm



Well, I suppose now is as good time as any.  I'm surprised none of you
had guessed it before, given my lack of an emu.com address.  =)

I was laid off from E-mu in August of 2002.  Yes, 2002.  After much
convincing by Sean, they hired me back as a contractor from December'02
thru March'03 to do 2.00.  While a sweet gig for a while (coding at
home is kinda nice), it was only a 12 week project.  Fast-forward (past
me watching a lot of movies and playing a lot of video games) to July
2003.

I interviewed and was hired at Apple to work on a product called
Soundtrack.  http://www.apple.com/soundtrack  Sort of ironic that a
die-hard PC guy got hired at Apple, but I'm really loving it.  So long
story short, at NAMM, you'll see me in the Apple/emagic booth.

Never fear, E-mu's not going away, I'm not going away, and your command
station will continue to be one of the best deals out there...

-Aaron

PS.  I do have the ability/option to update software for the command
stations, but I have a few too many side projects at the moment.  Stay
tuned for those too...

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> http://tinyurl.com/2xnkr
> 
> Aaron Eppolito wrote:
> > Yep.  Though not at the booth you're probably expecting...

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I second that. Thanks Aaron!

PS: nobody asked to Open Source the OS yet? How strange? :)

erik_magrini@... wrote:
> Talk about support too, he doesn't even work for Emu and still 
> takes time to help us out!  Huge thanks man!
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--- "[cYcLoThYmIqUe]" <poumtschak@...> wrote:
> PS: nobody asked to Open Source the OS yet? How strange? :)

It's been asked before, you might even find the discussion in the
archives.  The problem is that, unlike pure software, the development
environment for embedded systems is several thousands of dollars per
seat.  There are special cross-compilers, target-debuggers, flash
programmers, BDM interfaces, etc that all make development infeasible.

Would be nice though...

-Aaron

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I am sure it has been discussed before, but is there a cheap source 
for the programmable ROMs? They are still 2x or 3x the price of an 
existing ROM from E-Mu.

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote:
> --- "[cYcLoThYmIqUe]" <poumtschak@f...> wrote:
> > PS: nobody asked to Open Source the OS yet? How strange? :)
> 
> It's been asked before, you might even find the discussion in the
> archives.  The problem is that, unlike pure software, the 
development
> environment for embedded systems is several thousands of dollars per
> seat.  There are special cross-compilers, target-debuggers, flash
> programmers, BDM interfaces, etc that all make development 
infeasible.
> 
> Would be nice though...
> 
> -Aaron
> 
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Nope.  Unfortunately, they are a custom design using expensive flash
parts.  It's hard to get 128 16-bit audio streams out of a flash part
in real time, especially when you're doing 7x oversampling.  Even the
fastest off the shelf solutions now don't even come close.  They
*especially* didn't exist many years ago when the E4 & Proteus2000 was
designed...

-Aaron

--- critten98 <travis.crittenden@...> wrote:
> is there a cheap source for the programmable ROMs?

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