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2003-11-18 by puzzlelounge
Does anyone have a method to perform a cymbal roll without retriggering the attack? Real instrument examples are a crash cymbal roll that starts out quiet and gets louder, or a ride that just makes a continuous ringing when a roll is performed with a soft mallet.
2003-11-18 by Wesley D
You could sample it, or use a computer. Or if you're trying to do it live you could in theory build a kit and stack the same cymbal sample on a whole bunch of different keys, and devote that one channel to cymbals. I think that's what you're talking about right? getting it to play again without restarting the original sample? --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2003-11-18 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
A "real" cymbal roll WOULD retrigger the attack though, so why do you need
this aspect?
rEalm
puzzlelounge <puzzlelounge@...>
11/17/2003 10:54 PM
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cc: Subject: [xl7] Cymbal roll Does anyone have a method to perform a cymbal roll without retriggering the attack? Real instrument examples are a crash cymbal roll that starts out quiet and gets louder, or a ride that just makes a continuous ringing when a roll is performed with a soft mallet. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s)or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive privilege or confidentiality. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of , or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. For Translation: http://www.baxter.com/email_disclaimer ============================================================================== [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2003-11-18 by Wesley D
I'm thinking we want to trigger the attack of the next cymbal hit, but not cut of the previous one. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2003-11-18 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
Just raise the Amp Release some then? Hmm, I'll have to play around
tonight to see what can be done...
rEalm
"Wesley D" <Serfiss@...>
11/18/2003 12:41 PM
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cc: Subject: Re: [xl7] Cymbal roll I'm thinking we want to trigger the attack of the next cymbal hit, but not cut of the previous one. --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s)or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive privilege or confidentiality. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of , or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. For Translation: http://www.baxter.com/email_disclaimer ============================================================================== [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2003-11-18 by sincultura13
I have a better way.... It involves a portable recorder, a gun, and a Consevatory's Perc. Dept.... Do you want me to explain how it works? ;) --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote: > Just raise the Amp Release some then? Hmm, I'll have to play around > tonight to see what can be done... > > rEalm > > > > > > "Wesley D" <Serfiss@y...> > 11/18/2003 12:41 PM > Please respond to xl7 > > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > cc: > Subject: Re: [xl7] Cymbal roll > > > I'm thinking we want to trigger the attack of the next cymbal hit, but not > cut of the previous one. > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s)or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged > material. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended > recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive privilege or confidentiality. > Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of , or taking of any > action in reliance upon, this information by entities other than the intended > recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the > sender and delete the material from any computer. > > For Translation: > > http://www.baxter.com/email_disclaimer > ====================================================================== ========
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2003-11-19 by puzzlelounge
A real cymbal roll would not retrigger the attack if a soft mallet was used. An example is a crash cymbal that is hit softly at first with a gradual creshendo to full volume within one bar or so. I was in high school band and this effect was used in many songs! I hear it a lot in techno too... --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote: > A "real" cymbal roll WOULD retrigger the attack though, so why do you need > this aspect? > > rEalm > > > > > > puzzlelounge <puzzlelounge@y...> > 11/17/2003 10:54 PM > Please respond to xl7 > > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > cc: > Subject: [xl7] Cymbal roll > > > Does anyone have a method to perform a cymbal roll without > retriggering the attack? Real instrument examples are a crash cymbal > roll that starts out quiet and gets louder, or a ride that just makes > a continuous ringing when a roll is performed with a soft mallet. > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s)or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged > material. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended > recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive privilege or confidentiality. > Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of , or taking of any > action in reliance upon, this information by entities other than the intended > recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the > sender and delete the material from any computer. > > For Translation: > > http://www.baxter.com/email_disclaimer > ====================================================================== ========
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2003-11-19 by erik_magrini@Baxter.com
Please do :)
rEalm
sincultura13 <sincultura13@...>
11/18/2003 04:17 PM
Please respond to xl7
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
cc: Subject: [xl7] Re: Cymbal roll I have a better way.... It involves a portable recorder, a gun, and a Consevatory's Perc. Dept.... Do you want me to explain how it works? ;) --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote: > Just raise the Amp Release some then? Hmm, I'll have to play around > tonight to see what can be done... > > rEalm > > > > > > "Wesley D" <Serfiss@y...> > 11/18/2003 12:41 PM > Please respond to xl7 > > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > cc: > Subject: Re: [xl7] Cymbal roll > > > I'm thinking we want to trigger the attack of the next cymbal hit, but not > cut of the previous one. > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s)or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged > material. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended > recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive privilege or confidentiality. > Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of , or taking of any > action in reliance upon, this information by entities other than the intended > recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the > sender and delete the material from any computer. > > For Translation: > > http://www.baxter.com/email_disclaimer > ====================================================================== ======== > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s)or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged material. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive privilege or confidentiality. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of , or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. For Translation: http://www.baxter.com/email_disclaimer ============================================================================== [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2003-11-19 by sincultura13
Well, you take the gun to a pawnshop... then go to the Conservatory's Perc Dept and ask politely if you can rent a room... :P --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote: > Please do :) > > rEalm > > > > > > sincultura13 <sincultura13@y...> > 11/18/2003 04:17 PM > Please respond to xl7 > > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > cc: > Subject: [xl7] Re: Cymbal roll > > > I have a better way.... It involves a portable recorder, a gun, and a > Consevatory's Perc. Dept.... Do you want me to explain how it > works? ;) > > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote: > > Just raise the Amp Release some then? Hmm, I'll have to play around > > tonight to see what can be done... > > > > rEalm > > > > > > > > > > > > "Wesley D" <Serfiss@y...> > > 11/18/2003 12:41 PM > > Please respond to xl7 > > > > > > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com > > cc: > > Subject: Re: [xl7] Cymbal roll > > > > > > I'm thinking we want to trigger the attack of the next cymbal hit, > but not > > cut of the previous one. > > > > > > --------------------------------- > > Do you Yahoo!? > > Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > ---------- > > The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s)or > entity to > > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally > privileged > > material. Delivery of this message to any person other than the > intended > > recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive privilege or > confidentiality. > > Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of , or > taking of any > > action in reliance upon, this information by entities other than > the intended > > recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please > contact the > > sender and delete the material from any computer. > > > > For Translation: > > > > http://www.baxter.com/email_disclaimer > > > ====================================================================== > ======== > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- > The information transmitted is intended only for the person(s)or entity to > which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or legally privileged > material. Delivery of this message to any person other than the intended > recipient(s) is not intended in any way to waive privilege or confidentiality. > Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of , or taking of any > action in reliance upon, this information by entities other than the intended > recipient is prohibited. If you receive this in error, please contact the > sender and delete the material from any computer. > > For Translation: > > http://www.baxter.com/email_disclaimer > ====================================================================== ========
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2003-11-20 by robotchas
Use Velocity (or Mod Wheel or...)->SampleStart to trim the attack, and use the Melody(last) solo mode so the envelopes don't retrigger. Give it plenty of release on both filter and amp envelopes. Haven't tried it myself but this should give you a starting point.