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What kind of sampler are you looking for & what use do you plan give 
it? I'm just curious... since I borrowed some ideas from you current 
setup. :)

Right now I'm looking at two pieces that aren't even out yet (Akai 
MPC1000, Korg SX-1), so none of this is final. 

Why am I getting rid of the sp808 that I use now?  Well, it does work fine 
for what I need to do with it 90% of the time.  I only really have two 
issues with it, it's a bit larger than I would ideally like (space is 
limited in DJ booths and clubs), and the audio cuts out when you enter 
menus sometimes, or change effects (even if they're not on).  It really is 
more of studio sampler than a live one IMO, the audio occasionally cutting 
out when you enter a menu is an example.

The Korg SX-1 is appealing to me because I liek the small footprint it 
has, and I think the Electribe series is really one of those things that 
just perfect.  All of the boxes are dead easy to use an sound great, very 
cheap too.  The downside is typically slightly limited functionality in 
some areas (effects in the past).  The new effects in this one look nice 
though, and the slice part means my breaks loops won't be confined to only 
one tempo anymore too, another plus.  Smartmedia back up is nice too.

The Akai on the other hand is I'm sure a much more robust sampler.  My 
first sampler was an Akai S3000XL, and it was a beast.  Never crashed, and 
always got the job done.  The MPC1000 also has three seperate effects 
(which are arguably better than the Korg's), plus a global compression 
too.  The compression would definitely come in handy live, as would the EQ 
capabilities of the Akai.

So right now, I'm really undecided.  My needs for a sampler are really 
basic, typically I only need to play back a few samples on one channel, 
and I would like to tweak effects on them live too.  Both of these units 
will do that, it's just a question of do I want a basic, but really fun to 
use sampler with some neat features (the SX-1 with motion sequencing), or 
do I want a more utilitarian sampler that with slightly more professional 
sound and features (the Akai).  I'm still waiting on the price of the 
MPC1000 to be announced, that could be a big factor in helping me decide 
too.

rEalm




What kind of sampler are you looking for & what use do you plan give 
it? I'm just curious... since I borrowed some ideas from you current 
setup. :)



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Not to sound too unpro, but what about the Boss SP-303? I've been 
using it for a while, and it works pretty good, IMO. Sure, it's not 
velocity sensative, but it's got some ok effects. I use it mostly for 
sampling one-liners out of movies and TV, to trigger during songs. 
For that, it's great. Cheap, small footprint, and expandable using 
SmartMedia (up to 64MB). Can even use it as an effects proccessor 
using Line In or Mic. Has a MIDI In, so the XL-7 could even trigger 
it. Might even be able to control velocity that way (will have to 
check).


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Right now I'm looking at two pieces that aren't even out yet (Akai 
> MPC1000, Korg SX-1), so none of this is final. 
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Not to sound too unpro, but what about the Boss SP-303? 

>>>I did actually seriously consider that one as well, though if I do get 
rid of the Sp808, I'd prefer to gain features or at least make the move 
lateral.  Th Sp303 is definitely a nice robust portable sampler, but I'm 
hoping to cover my bases for any future direction I decide to take, one 
reason the MPC1000 is slightly in the lead. ,<<

Sure, it's not velocity sensative, but it's got some ok effects. Might 
even be able to control velocity that way (will have to check).

>>>I'm pretty sure that it does respond to velocity via external midi. ,<<

rEalm
(thanks for the suggestion, I need to keep that on in mind. <<<





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Hey Realm, I've been considering the MPC1000 too... One thing to 
concider with them, though, is the countinous problems people have 
reported about akai products and their first OS. I'm planning to 
wait 'til they iron out the OS before jumping in. MPC4000 users are 
still waiting for the implementation of some features that were 
listed in the spcecs and haven't made it yet to the machine... Also 
there were plenty of bug reports with their last to S series samplers 
and even more about the Z series... I'm saving $20 a month, figuring 
that by the time the MPC1000 is all good I'll have about half the 
money to get it.... HEHE..

Also, Realm, are you planning on dropping the XL-7 too? What concerns 
me a bit about getting the MPC1000 is paying for a sequencer I might 
not use.... I'm to busy right now with work (and in debt 'til 
february, hehe...) an all to really push the limits of my studio 
(other than the piano/string thing) I'm hopin that by the time the 
MPC drops I'd figure out if I'd be better of running a laptop with a 
midi tweak box, a Z4, or just buying two processors for my Emu ESi. 
maybe a Kaoss and a Line6 Echo unit...


About the Boss SP's, I have the Sp-505 is really fun to use and an 
excellent tool... Still is rather limiting with its only 4 stereo 
voices. I guess it be the same thing with the Sp-303. The good thing 
about them, is that you can find them really cheap second hand... If 
I find a 303 or 505 or even a 202 really cheap I'm getting another. 
Especially concidering what realm pointed out about the space in 
clubs... A XL-7 + two Sp-505 is a nice combo if you work mainly by 
triggering loops...





--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> Not to sound too unpro, but what about the Boss SP-303? 
> 
> >>>I did actually seriously consider that one as well, though if I 
do get 
> rid of the Sp808, I'd prefer to gain features or at least make the 
move 
> lateral.  Th Sp303 is definitely a nice robust portable sampler, 
but I'm 
> hoping to cover my bases for any future direction I decide to take, 
one 
> reason the MPC1000 is slightly in the lead. ,<<
> 
> Sure, it's not velocity sensative, but it's got some ok effects. 
Might 
> even be able to control velocity that way (will have to check).
> 
> >>>I'm pretty sure that it does respond to velocity via external 
midi. ,<<

> 
> rEalm
> (thanks for the suggestion, I need to keep that on in mind. <<<
> 
> 
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> 
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Hey Realm, I've been considering the MPC1000 too... One thing to 
concider with them, though, is the countinous problems people have 
reported about akai products and their first OS. 

>>>Definitely well aware of Akai's history in this regards.  Typically it 
comes about whent hey promise new features though, so I'm hoping a cut 
down feature set like the MPC1000's isn't as bad.  Still, it's only on my 
radar at the moment, nothing's been decided for sure yet. ,<<

Also, Realm, are you planning on dropping the XL-7 too? What concerns me a 
bit about getting the MPC1000 is paying for a sequencer I might not 
use....

>>>Nah, I'm definitely keeping the XL-7, if I have another sequencer in 
the 1000 and it doesn't get used, so be it. <<<

rEalm












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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:

 -- It would be a bit of a step-down from the 808. Man, why can't 
Roland/BOSS make one box to do everything right? :)

> Not to sound too unpro, but what about the Boss SP-303? 
> 
> Sure, it's not velocity sensative, but it's got some ok effects. 
Might 
> even be able to control velocity that way (will have to check).
> 
> >>>I'm pretty sure that it does respond to velocity via external 
midi. ,<<


  --- You're right, I checked the manual, it does respond to velo via 
MIDI.


> rEalm
> (thanks for the suggestion, I need to keep that on in mind. <<<
> 

 - Just doing what I can to help. :)