Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

Howdy,

Been messing with my XL-7 for about three weeks now, and I love it. 
It's the boom. :)
Anyway, I was wondering what sequencer / audio software you guys like 
using? It's time for me to upgrade, and I'm looking for some input.
I've been a Cubase man for some time, but it seems like SONAR is 
preferred here. I was also looking into the new FruitLoops Studio 
(can't beat the price), if anyone uses that.
Primary use would be sequencing the XL-7, and recording audio in from 
a sampler and CDs.
Oh, and I'm PC / WinXP based.

Thanks,
Bill

SX 1.06 here, along with Wavelab 4, and Reason 2.5.

rEalm





buggoutbill <wnofi@...>
09/11/2003 12:22 PM
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Howdy,

Been messing with my XL-7 for about three weeks now, and I love it. 
It's the boom. :)
Anyway, I was wondering what sequencer / audio software you guys like 
using? It's time for me to upgrade, and I'm looking for some input.
I've been a Cubase man for some time, but it seems like SONAR is 
preferred here. I was also looking into the new FruitLoops Studio 
(can't beat the price), if anyone uses that.
Primary use would be sequencing the XL-7, and recording audio in from 
a sampler and CDs.
Oh, and I'm PC / WinXP based.

Thanks,
Bill



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Orion Platinum. Period :)

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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, erik_magrini@B... wrote:
> SX 1.06 here, along with Wavelab 4, and Reason 2.5.
> 
> rEalm
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> buggoutbill <wnofi@e...>
> 09/11/2003 12:22 PM
> Please respond to xl7
> 
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>         Subject:        [xl7] Favorite Computer Sequencer
> 
> 
> Howdy,
> 
> Been messing with my XL-7 for about three weeks now, and I love 
it. 
> It's the boom. :)
> Anyway, I was wondering what sequencer / audio software you guys 
like 
> using? It's time for me to upgrade, and I'm looking for some input.
> I've been a Cubase man for some time, but it seems like SONAR is 
> preferred here. I was also looking into the new FruitLoops Studio 
> (can't beat the price), if anyone uses that.
> Primary use would be sequencing the XL-7, and recording audio in 
from 
> a sampler and CDs.
> Oh, and I'm PC / WinXP based.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill
> 
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I thought the XL7 had a nice sequencer?

I guess if you have learned Cubase, you may as well stick with it. I 
used FL3 a while back once and I was surprised at how easy it was to 
knock out good sounding patterns very quickly. It was neat to use. 
Sonar and Cubase seems to be for the pros, which I am not :-)

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "buggoutbill" <wnofi@e...> wrote:
> Howdy,
> 
> Been messing with my XL-7 for about three weeks now, and I love 
it. 
> It's the boom. :)
> Anyway, I was wondering what sequencer / audio software you guys 
like 
> using? It's time for me to upgrade, and I'm looking for some input.
> I've been a Cubase man for some time, but it seems like SONAR is 
> preferred here. I was also looking into the new FruitLoops Studio 
> (can't beat the price), if anyone uses that.
> Primary use would be sequencing the XL-7, and recording audio in 
from 
> a sampler and CDs.
> Oh, and I'm PC / WinXP based.
> 
> Thanks,
> Bill

No reason you can't use both, I use different sequencers depending on the 
need.

rEalm



I thought the XL7 had a nice sequencer?  I guess if you have learned 
Cubase, you may as well stick with it.








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I agree with rEalm on this one .
That said you can be "pro" and not use hardware sequencers also U 
know.
I use an ER-1 ,Mp-7 ,RS7000 ,MaM step sequencer (almost analog 
stylee),MS2000 step modulator also,though I'd kill for a Latronic 
NOTRON :P .....
Cut my teeth on a Qy300 then 700 but like the knob interface of the 
RS and it's close enough to the Qy700 feature wise to keep me happy.
More than enough grunt between the 4 and all have their strengths and 
weeknesses.
Emu has better swing shuffle feel (way better actually) and does down 
tempo stuff way better , RS has more fluid step sequncer / XOX on 
both is sort of on par (I like both). RS can handle different 
meter/time sig and length per track with perfect synchro looping.
Emu has better ARPS in a huge way ,triggers ,better synth engine by a 
long shot and a less hard quantised sequncer feel which I love.
The MaM has some damn nifty tricks up it's sleeve to and is great for 
straight analog style (on a 70's tip) step sequencer programming.
ER-1 pure XoX fun get great expressionwith velocity over midi RS 
handles NRPRN's very well with it.
Korg step seq/modulator is used as a paremeter sequncer only whilst 
playing ;ead libes etc etc..
Great combination IMHO.
Can get some great polyrythmic stuff goin on with this lot. 







No reason you can't use both, I use different sequencers depending on 
the need.
 
rEalm
 
 
 
I thought the XL7 had a nice sequencer?  I guess if you have learned 
Cubase, you may as well stick with it.

I love my Notron, but I am looking forward to how this pans out:

http://www.radikaltechnologies.com/Products/SPECTRALIS/spectralis.htm
l

looks like the best of Quasimidi in a groovebox with some real 
analog thrown in.

Ravi

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "faxorgy" <Oscar_Finch@e...> wrote:
> I agree with rEalm on this one .
> That said you can be "pro" and not use hardware sequencers also U 
> know.
> I use an ER-1 ,Mp-7 ,RS7000 ,MaM step sequencer (almost analog 
> stylee),MS2000 step modulator also,though I'd kill for a Latronic 
> NOTRON :P .....
> Cut my teeth on a Qy300 then 700 but like the knob interface of 
the 
> RS and it's close enough to the Qy700 feature wise to keep me 
happy.
> More than enough grunt between the 4 and all have their strengths 
and 
> weeknesses.
> Emu has better swing shuffle feel (way better actually) and does 
down 
> tempo stuff way better , RS has more fluid step sequncer / XOX on 
> both is sort of on par (I like both). RS can handle different 
> meter/time sig and length per track with perfect synchro looping.
> Emu has better ARPS in a huge way ,triggers ,better synth engine 
by a 
> long shot and a less hard quantised sequncer feel which I love.
> The MaM has some damn nifty tricks up it's sleeve to and is great 
for 
> straight analog style (on a 70's tip) step sequencer programming.
> ER-1 pure XoX fun get great expressionwith velocity over midi RS 
> handles NRPRN's very well with it.
> Korg step seq/modulator is used as a paremeter sequncer only 
whilst 
> playing ;ead libes etc etc..
> Great combination IMHO.
> Can get some great polyrythmic stuff goin on with this lot. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> No reason you can't use both, I use different sequencers depending 
on 
> the need.
>  
> rEalm
>  
>  
>  
> I thought the XL7 had a nice sequencer?  I guess if you have 
learned 
> Cubase, you may as well stick with it.

Nothing beats Logic.

My words exactly, but these are silly Windows users ;)

Seriously though, a dual processor Mac + Logic has been amazing for me. Throw in Reason 2.5, emagic's incredible "softsynths" (ES1, ES2, EXS24, etc) and it's been unbeatable.

Mark

On Friday, September 12, 2003, at 09:07AM, drewaight <drewaight@...> wrote:

>Nothing beats Logic

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "_5ht" <_5ht@y...> wrote:

> Sonar and Cubase seems to be for the pros, which I am not :-)

The pros they all use : a mac + Logic in conjunction with Pro Tools 
hooked to an ultra-xpensive analog recorder(minimum configuration)... 
and the others (us), we stay on PC crap with cubase (and it's timing 
problems and poor audio engine), or even worse, with Sonar... (just 
joking!)

XROM

I can name quite a few 'pros' who use Cubase SX. Radiohead and Hans Zimmer, come to mind. I can name a great deal more pros who can't stand protools. 

As far as logic and mastering to 2 track tape, I can't think of anyone who can disparage them.

(If you've only ever seen Cubast VST, then you need to look again. VST was the biggest pile of crap. I left Logic for Cubase, just about the time that Logic got bought out - they just stopped developing the midi side of Logic around 3.5)

bIz

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  --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "_5ht" <_5ht@y...> wrote:

  > Sonar and Cubase seems to be for the pros, which I am not :-)

  The pros they all use : a mac + Logic in conjunction with Pro Tools 
  hooked to an ultra-xpensive analog recorder(minimum configuration)... 
  and the others (us), we stay on PC crap with cubase (and it's timing 
  problems and poor audio engine), or even worse, with Sonar... (just 
  joking!)

  XROM



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I think its a fallacy that you need a MAC to run logic. (well logic 6 
yeah) 

Ive been running logic for 3 years on a Windows 2000... machine i 
frequently have 8 EXS24 2 or 3 ES2 EVP88 Reason rewired and all my 
sequences running with 5ms latency and solid results. The only time i 
have crashed it is also when I try to open Sonar at the same time. 
The NT kernel is rick solid.

My favorite midi sequencer on the computer is c-lab notator (later named logic) on atari.As far as audio goes its cool edit.

buggoutbill <wnofi@...> wrote:Howdy,

Been messing with my XL-7 for about three weeks now, and I love it. 
It's the boom. :)
Anyway, I was wondering what sequencer / audio software you guys like 
using? It's time for me to upgrade, and I'm looking for some input.
I've been a Cubase man for some time, but it seems like SONAR is 
preferred here. I was also looking into the new FruitLoops Studio 
(can't beat the price), if anyone uses that.
Primary use would be sequencing the XL-7, and recording audio in from 
a sampler and CDs.
Oh, and I'm PC / WinXP based.

Thanks,
Bill


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--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "bIz" <biz@g...> wrote:
> I can name quite a few 'pros' who use Cubase SX. Radiohead and Hans 
Zimmer, come to mind. 

Whao ! Glad to see a single joke has awaken long-time sleeping 
members of this group !! Now that i know this, I'll do it 
again .....Who could seriously think it's an absolute rule with no 
exceptions and not simply a joke ? anyone but you (no there's Nick 
too!)....  Btw I also can name pros that work on an old atari ST or 
with no computer at all , others that record in one pass with their 
band on a multitrack recorder to keep a live feeling(Frank Black) 
some with obsolete Mac or PC, some with brand new bi-processor rack-
mounted machines and on and on  ... on the other hand you could find 
(rich)amatuers with a NEVE console in their (huge)bedroom because 
this world is diversity and I was just joking...Get it ?        


>I can name a great deal more pros who can't stand protools. 

I know about the 'Pro tools shit' phenomenom, nothing new here.... 

 
> (If you've only ever seen Cubast VST, then you need to look again. 
VST was the biggest pile of crap.

Seriously I'm ignoring Cubase SX because it can't (and won't ever) 
record automation of my old but beloved DSP Factory system so I stay 
with VST where it's perfectly integrated, so yes I had VST in mind...


XROM

Beauty, well said!  Shuffle on the XX-7's is definitely one of the 
best I've heard.

rEalm


--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "faxorgy" <Oscar_Finch@e...> wrote:
> I agree with rEalm on this one .
> That said you can be "pro" and not use hardware sequencers also U 
> know.
> I use an ER-1 ,Mp-7 ,RS7000 ,MaM step sequencer (almost analog 
> stylee),MS2000 step modulator also,though I'd kill for a Latronic 
> NOTRON :P .....
> Cut my teeth on a Qy300 then 700 but like the knob interface of 
the 
> RS and it's close enough to the Qy700 feature wise to keep me 
happy.
> More than enough grunt between the 4 and all have their strengths 
and 
> weeknesses.
> Emu has better swing shuffle feel (way better actually) and does 
down 
> tempo stuff way better , RS has more fluid step sequncer / XOX on 
> both is sort of on par (I like both). RS can handle different 
> meter/time sig and length per track with perfect synchro looping.
> Emu has better ARPS in a huge way ,triggers ,better synth engine 
by a 
> long shot and a less hard quantised sequncer feel which I love.
> The MaM has some damn nifty tricks up it's sleeve to and is great 
for 
> straight analog style (on a 70's tip) step sequencer programming.
> ER-1 pure XoX fun get great expressionwith velocity over midi RS 
> handles NRPRN's very well with it.
> Korg step seq/modulator is used as a paremeter sequncer only 
whilst 
> playing ;ead libes etc etc..
> Great combination IMHO.
> Can get some great polyrythmic stuff goin on with this lot. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> No reason you can't use both, I use different sequencers depending 
on 
> the need.
>  
> rEalm
>  
>  
>  
> I thought the XL7 had a nice sequencer?  I guess if you have 
learned 
> Cubase, you may as well stick with it.

Definitely been watching this one too, looks wicked!

rEalm

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Ivan Sharma" <noision1@h...> wrote:
http://www.radikaltechnologies.com/Products/SPECTRALIS/spectralis.htm
> l
> 
> looks like the best of Quasimidi in a groovebox with some real 
> analog thrown in.
> 
> Ravi

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark Pipher <mpipher@m...> wrote:
> My words exactly, but these are silly Windows users ;)

SHEESH!

Thanks for all the replies! And glad this didn't turn into a 'my 
sequencer vs. your sequencer' flamewar. :)

Don't get me wrong, I like the sequencer on the XL-7, it's sweet. I 
find it easier to 'tweak' a song on the computer, that's all.

I've been trying to get the drummap file (to use in Cubase) off of 
EMU's website, but the link doesn't work. Figures, it's the only 
link that's broken, and it's the one file I need.

Thanks again,
Bill

Sonar II here. Soon to be Sonar 3. I have FruityLoops but hardly use 
it. I don't like the MIDI implimentation. With FL and Reason you 
have to jump through hoops if you want to move a project to a larger 
sequencer or DAW.

Robert

I found the drum map to be less than useable anyway, you're not missing 
anything...

rEalm





I've been trying to get the drummap file (to use in Cubase) off of 
EMU's website, but the link doesn't work. Figures, it's the only 
link that's broken, and it's the one file I need.

Thanks again,
Bill



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