well, reading all the low price stuff lately I once again think in Europe we pay to much for our gear. I paid 960 euro's for my XL7 in december 2002 and it isn't getting any cheaper here (I wouldn't like it if it became cheaper now that I have one) but in the US they go for 399$, with the current dollar versus euro exchange rate that would equal about 340 euro's!! so I almost paid three times that amount. With my latest synth the Alesis Andromeda I at least got a fair deal because I contacted the shop who contacted their distributor and they agreed to pass on the exchange rate margin to me. I don't even know what point I'm trying to make, just a little pissed that prices have dropped to absolutely nothing. suppose you bought the XL at the introduction price far above 1000$! grtz. ruud ----- Original Message ----- From: <xl7@yahoogroups.com> To: <xl7@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:12 AM Subject: [xl7] Digest Number 767 > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > There are 10 messages in this issue. > > Topics in this digest: > > 1. Re: XL-7 best price > From: "Brian Franklin" <bkf11@...> > 2. Re: OS Request > From: "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> > 3. using mp7 as midisequencer with nuendo and asr x pro, problems recording notes? > From: "r3gu" <clubfeel@...> > 4. Re: Talking about OS upgrades.... > From: "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> > 5. Re: using mp7 as midisequencer with nuendo and asr x pro, problems recording notes? > From: Zay-Ah <zay_ah@...> > 6. Flash simms? > From: Mark Kunoff - Bluemarble <mkunoff@...> > 7. Re: Flash simms? > From: "glennjamison" <glennjamison@...> > 8. XL-7 Download Page On E-Mu Site > From: "bluetechnics" <ksellers88@...> > 9. Re: XL-7 Download Page On E-Mu Site > From: Bruddah Max <bruddahmax@...> > 10. Re: Re: XL-7 best price > From: Ayoola Daramola <ayooladaramola@...> > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:44:26 -0000 > From: "Brian Franklin" <bkf11@...> > Subject: Re: XL-7 best price > > > Hey there everyone, > > I got mine from guitar center for $399, that takes into account the > $50 rebate from guitarcenter, not from emu. You got to ask the > salesman or manager for the rebate form it seems. I called emu, and > they don't give you the rebate. > > What a deal this is! BTW, guitarcenter is blowing out the redsound > virtual analog darkstar xp2 for $130 - it's an great virtual that's > very close to the real thing with some types of sounds. Especially > once you start messing with the presets. That in combination with an > xl7 takes care of everything along side a sampler of course. Check > out some of the sounds of the darkstar on my website. > > As far as the expansion cards go, I've been going thru the demos on > emu.com I'll tell you right now that I have the emu esi2000 with the > cdrom, the protozoa. This is the same sample/preset collection as the > $99 protozoa exp card. In my opinion if you dont have this cd and > dont have a sampler, and want more bread and butter sounds right away > that aren't the greatest, but usable, then for under a hundred you'll > get pleny of samples.(standard kitchen sink, orchestral, and world - > some nice plucked stringed instruments too) The samples themselves > don't exploit the fidelity and low noise of that our xl7's are > capable of. Basically an xl7 has pretty much the same circuitry as > the high end emu samplers - actually it's even better in some ways. > At any rate it's a hell of a synth engine. > > I think the planetphatt soundcard is the best one to start off with > if you want to turn your xl7 into a bread and butter, and even better > all-around sound module - it will give you the biggest bang for your > buck to start with, plus it's a great addition to the xl7's > futuristic/groove/dance oriented soundset. I personally think it's > the best one. With these types of world timbres and the excellent > sample fidelity, especially the percussion, they'll act as a very > cutting-edge compliment to the existing xl7 style. Of course you > still can use these sounds in a more traditional way too. And they > sound brillant in the mp3 demos. I think they make the most of the > sampler-quality engine in the xl7. This sound set clearly makes it a > state-of-the-art sound machine. Even better than those "slick" korg > combis that everyone seems to like so much. Some of those combis are > really great, I'll have to admit. But this sound set puts the xl7 way > ahead of anything korg had or has. That goes for Roland too. Then you > can get the ZR76 exp card - 16 meg piano and a 3.5 meg piano with a > bunch of other rather decent sounds - much better than the proteus > 1000/2000/2500 set. Keep in mind that ensoniq had a kick-ass 1 meg > piano with the sq+ series. It only got better from that point on. I > read some poor reviews of the ZR card, but I don't believe it. Go to > emu's site and download the halo mp3's(ZR soundset). Compare them > with the 2000/2500 sounds. Keep in mind that these 2000 demos are > using the filters more to get that contemporary sheen to you hear in > these 2000 demos as compared to the ZR demos. You can get this > particular quality just with the xl7 soundset too, or any exp card, > if you do some simliar filter programming. That "sheen" is mostly in > the filter programming, and some in the effects. Well the filters and > effects are the same on everyone of these modules. So there you have > it. > > Then last but not forgotten is the pure phatt card to round off the > entire sample/pattern set. You can't help but spend half you're > Saturday afternoon on these patterns. Way too cool. I think with this > combination you may never have to use your sampler for much other > than vocals. Also dually noted is the virtuoso card set, except it > takes 2 slots, but sounds like it makes the most out of the xl7 > engine too. I heard from other people that the PS Orch exp was good, > but I'm skeptical. I already have the sample cds for this library and > its great, but I noticed there's not much of a selection of > instruments(samples) on the card. One brass type, one flute?? Not > enough variety. Get the cd rom sample set if you're into classical or > film composing. It's second to none. BTW, the the PS Orch exp demo > sounds lousy too. > > Ok for the wish list.... One wish... modify the OS and let us install > regular SIMM RAM memory(remember the hardware is probably much the > same as in the EMU sampler's, and let us download our own samples via > USB. What more could you then ever ask for. That's why it will always > remain just a wish. A damn shame, I say. > > > Brian Franklin > > bkf11@... > > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/bkf11/ > > > PS - I forgot to say that I downloaded version 2.0 - what a great > upgrade that is! I hope emu continue's the good work. And the e- > loader is another welcome addition. Actually I can see it's going to > be a critical part of the xl7 experience. > > The USB connection is more than adequate and the fact that you can > modify a pattern or presets and instantly save them on your PC, and > instanly retrieve them makes the production a quick and efficient > process. This is definitly a module for production musicians that > have to get things done quick. It's rock-stable(xl-7), although the e- > loader has a bug where it has to be reset after certain operations, > but is no big deal in the larger sheme of things. Most people I talk > too these days can't say the same thing for thier software, but yeah > sure, it'll get better over the next few years. But who wants to > wait - don't have an xl7, then go out and get one and start finally > making music without all the technical headaches. And it's all hands- > on with the command stations - the best way to make music - it's like > playing an fast-action arcade game, compared to a think-n-type-n- > think slow strategy game(that eventually crashes when you finally got > everything figured out) Bottom line: I don't want to think, I just > want to have fun! > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:01:03 -0000 > From: "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> > Subject: Re: OS Request > > As long as we're fanataszing about a new OS, here's one feature I'd > like to see: > > A section of memory devoted to uploadable/downloadable/program > changeable/user definable plug-ins. > > Any user would be able to write 'code' to add functionality, users > could sway plug-ins, etc. > > With such an architecture, users could design and implement their own > functionality. > > Just a thought. > > Dr. Steve 8-)> > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:01:25 -0000 > From: "r3gu" <clubfeel@...> > Subject: using mp7 as midisequencer with nuendo and asr x pro, problems recording notes? > > Holla! > I have a ASR X Pro connected to mp7 from the midi B OUT to asr's midi > IN, then i have an Edirol UM-1 midi-interface connected to mp7's midi > IN and OUT A. if i try to record midisequences from mp7 to nuendo > (midi channel set 1 and rec pressed down on nuendo) it doesn't record > any notes at all...still, it records if i play the keyboard at the > same time on the mp7. also, if a have made a sequence to some of B > tracks, it does not send them to ASR, but it also plays ASR's sounds > when i play around the mp7's keyborad. somehow, it seems that the > mp7's sequencer is not sending the notes at all. I checked this out > also with e-loaders midi monitor, only the "start song" and "end > song" messages came to from sequences...but, the keybord send all > data when i playd it. > How should the midi setup been done in Mp7 to make this work? > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 4 > Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 16:07:34 -0000 > From: "steve_the_composer" <smw-mail@...> > Subject: Re: Talking about OS upgrades.... > > As long as we're fanataszing about a new OS, here's one feature I'd > like to see: > > A section of memory devoted to uploadable/downloadable/program > changeable/user definable plug-ins. > > Any user would be able to write 'code' to add functionality, users > could swap plug-ins, etc. > > With such an architecture, users could design and implement their own > functionality. > > Just a thought. > > Dr. Steve 8-)> > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 5 > Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:13:25 -0700 (PDT) > From: Zay-Ah <zay_ah@...> > Subject: Re: using mp7 as midisequencer with nuendo and asr x pro, problems recording notes? > > i've only had mine for about three days but i think that inside of the controller menu there's a > options to output midi on either A or B or Both... > > Someone correct me if I'm wrong... also I'm sure it's in the manual... > > Hope that helps, peace kat.. ;) > > --- r3gu <clubfeel@...> wrote: > > Holla! > > I have a ASR X Pro connected to mp7 from the midi B OUT to asr's midi > > IN, then i have an Edirol UM-1 midi-interface connected to mp7's midi > > IN and OUT A. if i try to record midisequences from mp7 to nuendo > > (midi channel set 1 and rec pressed down on nuendo) it doesn't record > > any notes at all...still, it records if i play the keyboard at the > > same time on the mp7. also, if a have made a sequence to some of B > > tracks, it does not send them to ASR, but it also plays ASR's sounds > > when i play around the mp7's keyborad. somehow, it seems that the > > mp7's sequencer is not sending the notes at all. I checked this out > > also with e-loaders midi monitor, only the "start song" and "end > > song" messages came to from sequences...but, the keybord send all > > data when i playd it. > > How should the midi setup been done in Mp7 to make this work? > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 6 > Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 11:24:32 -0500 > From: Mark Kunoff - Bluemarble <mkunoff@...> > Subject: Flash simms? > > > If I wanted to get an EOS Ultra sampler so I could make my own sounds for > the XL7, how much do the Flash simms cost? > > Has anyone had any experience doing this? > > ~Mark > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 7 > Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 18:05:01 -0000 > From: "glennjamison" <glennjamison@...> > Subject: Re: Flash simms? > > The prices for flash simms are posted on the E-mu website. It's > about $300 for a 16mb simm. I have an E6400 Ultra and have made a > flash simm for my MP-7. The only real hassle is that you can only > burn samples onto the Flash. You can't burn presets as the E4 > samplers have a different preset structure than the P2000 series > synths. So you save burn your samples onto the flash and then you > have to create your own presets on your command station and then save > them. So if you just wanted to put a bunch of your favourite sampler > patches onto a Flash Simm, it's pretty much too much of a hassle to > be worth it (for me anyways). > > Glenn > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Mark Kunoff - Bluemarble <mkunoff@b...> > wrote: > > > > If I wanted to get an EOS Ultra sampler so I could make my own > sounds for > > the XL7, how much do the Flash simms cost? > > > > Has anyone had any experience doing this? > > > > ~Mark > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2003 01:55:42 -0000 > From: "bluetechnics" <ksellers88@...> > Subject: XL-7 Download Page On E-Mu Site > > Can someone explain what the deal is with: "XL-1 Preset Banks for Your > XL-7?" This is found on the download page in the XL-7 section. They > mention something about converted ID's...etc. > > Thanks, > > blue > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 9 > Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 20:08:22 -0700 > From: Bruddah Max <bruddahmax@...> > Subject: Re: XL-7 Download Page On E-Mu Site > > bluetechnics wrote: > > > Can someone explain what the deal is with: "XL-1 Preset Banks for Your > > XL-7?" This is found on the download page in the XL-7 section. They > > mention something about converted ID's...etc. > > the presets in the Xtreme Lead 1 synth module are not the same as on the > XL-7. there is some patch overlap, but mostly they are completely different > patches. what E-mu has done is release all 4 banks of Xtreme Lead patches > with the sys-ex identifier of the XL-7. these can then be loaded into the > XL-7 (which i have done) by playing back from sequencer. then save banks to > librarian of choice (SoundDiver for me). voila! 512 mostly new sounds for > your XL-7. a lot of BTS patches that seem to be missing in the XL-7... > > granted if you are already programming your own sounds you don't want to > overwrite everything. i did just so i could dump the patches to SoundDiver > so i could use them mix & match however i wanted. some of the patches are > quite nice indeed. thanks E-mu! > > -- > Bruddah Max > Lord of the Dance > > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > ________________________________________________________________________ > > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 22:13:24 -0700 (PDT) > From: Ayoola Daramola <ayooladaramola@...> > Subject: Re: Re: XL-7 best price > > how much you pay for your xl 7? rom sale at emu ended on the 27th of june. every sound rom was half off. i got the sound of the zr and the vinatge keys both for $280. frank in sales dept at emu hooked me up > holla > > Zay-Ah <zay_ah@...> wrote: > lol, no doubt... I'd like to hear from other owners of the XL-7 and what they've upgraded with and > see what they think..... > > So far I've only had it since Tuesday but this thing is simply just sick... it's nice to not have > to power up the DAW to lay down some beats.... and now I can go gig without ripping my gear > out.... > > Anyway, yes go buy now! > > --- DigiD <digitaldisbeliever@...> wrote: > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Zay-Ah <zay_ah@y...> wrote: > > > Well i found the Advanced Orhestra and Beat Garden ROMS for 150 or > > less online... havnet gotten to > > > talk to EMU yet... I know what you mean though... > > > > > > I need/want to trick mine out but it's hard to justify 250+ pre > > ROM... at 150 it's a lil more > > > bearable but even still.... > > > > > > not sure how well those ROMs would help you out though... I'm trying > > to assemble a > > > DUB/Dancehall/Hip-Hop rig.... so I know I'm getting the Pure > > Phatt... and the others may work for > > > me... unless some others have suggestons... > > > > > > ANd i can't afford to get a sampler and make my own otherwise I > > would trust me.... > > > > > > Hmmm the beat garden doesnt sound like a bad deal but do I really need > > more techno/dance drums....hell yes LOL. > > > > But first things first. A rom card will do me no good without the unit > > and I must have one NOW > > > > > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc.yahoo.com > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! 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Re: [xl7] Digest Number 767
2003-06-28 by Ruud Gerards