--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, Aaron Eppolito <synthesis77@y...> wrote: > You're absolutely right. This wasn't so much as a bad design choice, > it was sort of a lack of a choice at all. The arpeggiators were > brought directly over from the Audity/P2K series with very few changes > made. When the box was first being designed, it was more targeted at > the groovebox market rather than the "control everything in your > studio" use. By the time the focus shifted, I suppose I forgot about > the arps. The arp transmit was never really designed to control > external gear, it was designed to record *all* the arps from a P2K into > a software sequencer. Well, that makes sense, since the sequencer was basically bolted on to the XL-1 (and I appreciate your candor). And I can see the need for a way to record arp output into another sequencer. > That being said, the workaround is as follows: ... > 4a - if you're only using one MIDI output, put all of your external > arps on the B channels and all of your internal arps on the A channels. This is probably what I will end up doing. It's more limiting than I'd hoped but it's the most straightforward solution. I'll just have to use more program changes and fewer arp triggers. > > tracks set to "EXT" should always transmit MIDI data, and there's > > an Arp on/off/Preset/Master switch on every track already > > Not quite. There's an Arp on/off/M/P switch on each CHANNEL, not > TRACK. Unfortunately, the arp is a synth feature, not a sequencer > feature, which is why it requires notes to be sent INT. You're on the > right track though (no pun intended) as this is close to what the ideal > solution would be. You're right of course, I was oversimplifying. Each track has at least one channel, and each channel has a preset, so each track has at least one arp switch associated with it. If the PX does well enough to merit an OS 2.1 it'd be nice to see a fix for this (putting the INT/EXT/BOTH switch between the arp and the synth rather than before them), but it sounds as if the arpeggiator is sufficiently segregated from the sequencer to make this impossible. > Since you have 2.0, you already have the fix for this problem. Turn > "Rechannelize Input" on (3rd screen in the master menu). Quick edit > knobs, keypads, and even incoming MIDI will be redirected to the > correct channel AND port (i.e. internal/external). Ah. I didn't realize "Rechannelize" affected the front panel controls. I'll try that, thanks. > For the programmable knobs and triggers, what you are trying to do is > what the "Seq" destination (instead of "Int") does. Internal goes > internal ALL the time, external goes external all the time, whereas > "Seq" goes where the sequencer is going. Wondered about that, it's a good feature. What about recording the arp into the sequencer? Is this not doable within the XL itself? I guess it's not crucial, it would just eat up extra note memory anyway. I appreciate the thoughtful reply Aaron, I know it can be hard to hear criticism of something you've put a lot of work into. I have a very clear and specific picture of what I want from a performance sequencer and in spite of my critiques you guys are the only ones who've really delivered so far.
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Re: Arpeggiator out useless?
2003-06-18 by robotchas
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