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RE: [xl7] Aaron - Re: Trouble loading audity 2000 files..

2003-06-06 by Andre Lewis

See I was thinking of finding the entire message header for the rom ID's and
doing a full replace, for instance 0A 70 21 88 0A to something like 0A 70 21 43
0A (Example only).  I haven't looked at  the actual messages in MidiOX or a hex
editor yet, mostly because I don't know the rom ID's.  Aaaaaroooon are you
reading these ??  Could you please post the ROM ID's again?  I know you did a
long time ago and I don't know what I did with the list!  :(

Andre

-----Original Message-----
From: biz [mailto:biz@...]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 3:31 PM
To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [xl7] Re: Trouble loading audity 2000 files..


I got part of the way there, and then real life interceded...

It's a little more difficult than a 'search and replace', since the position,
and not the actual code is the known quantity - undoubtably the code for the
audity ROM is in plenty of other places in the sysex, specifying something
completly different. Also, the second half of the patches involve even more
detailed conversion.

For the first half of the patches, you just need to find out where in each patch
in the sysex the rom id resides. The easiest way may be to push the audity sysex
into your xl-7. change just the rom id of the first patch, in all four layers,
and then dump it out again. The number which has changed needs ot be changed in
all the following sysexes. This is probably easiest to do in excel - in fact I
got everything all set up for the conversion, and simply needed to locate the
sysex using my xl-7 when I got sidetracked by life. Just convert the systex to
decimal, and load it as a 'space delimited' text file (as opposed to tab
delimited) and you have a file you can work with.

(Interesting bote - for some reason, the audity sysexes are jumbled. Each patch
is loaded in 4 sets of sysex messages, with set 2 and 4 sent before set 1 and 3.
This means that the sysex code is out of order. This isn't an issue for this
kind of 'search and replace' job, but is if you wanted do more major
conversions).

For the second half, (the audity 'extreme' patches) it gets more complicated.
First, you need to change the ROM id. However, that's not enough - the samples
have been shifted from their position in the original ROM. This means you need
to

1. Find the 4 spots in each patch where each layer's sample number is stored.
You cna do this the same way you found the rom id.
2. Convert the sysex from hexadecimal to tab delimited decimal, and load it into
a spreadsheet program, such as excel.
3. Create another column in excel that is a subtraction of the first.
4. Replace the first column with the second.




bIz

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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Erika
  To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:41 AM
  Subject: [xl7] Re: Trouble loading audity 2000 files..


  This is all very interesting.. I'm learning..:)what bits would I need
  to replace and with what? thanks!!

  eRiKa

  --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Andre Lewis" <andrel@s...> wrote:
  > Actually these are the original rom ID's, someone else wanted me to
  post the raw
  > dump so they could convert them.  The Rom ID's are different and
  they could
  > potentially be replaced by a global binary search and replace.
  >
  > Sorry Erika,
  >
  > Andre
  >
  > -----Original Message-----
  > From: M2 [mailto:mmcquay@s...]
  > Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:03 AM
  > To: xl7@yahoogroups.com
  > Subject: [xl7] Re: Trouble loading audity 2000 files..
  >
  >
  > Did bassmeister change the ROM ID's because they are different?  I
  > know that the wav forms are the same as I have both. WAV forms from
  > the Audity were used in the X-Lead(XL-1)and X-ROM(XL-7).
  >
  > I hope you get it to work correctly.
  >
  > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Erika" <erika_ev1@y...> wrote:
  > > The XL1 chip contains the Audity 2000 wav files... The sysex files
  > > for the audity2000 preset banks are avaible in the files section
  of
  > > the group. If the appropritate bank changes are made, they should
  > > work. Which I assumed was the case from the converastion I had
  with
  > > the person who posted them and the instructions in the file area.
  > > The demo that played was from the xl7.. the sounds were from some
  > of
  > > the instruments from the audity that replaced the XL1 presets.
  > >
  > > Go into patch edit and you can see that the audity wavs are in
  > there..
  > > :)
  > >
  > > eRiKa
  > >
  > >
  > >
  > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "M2" <mmcquay@s...> wrote:
  > > > Erika,
  > > >
  > > > Why were you trying to load Audity 2000 data into the XL-7?
  > > >
  > > > The Audity ROM is not compatible with the Command Station format
  > > and
  > > > I'm curious to know how the demo played.?
  > > >
  > > > --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, "Erika" <erika_ev1@y...> wrote:
  > > > > So I've got the sysex files for the audity 2000 from the files
  > > > area.
  > > > > I tried loading them via midiox (www.midiox.com). I had one
  > > success
  > > > > with mixed results. After loading, the first demo song started
  > > > > playing. I turned it off and something was playing alla stuck
  > > > note..
  > > > > I was able to audition a few of the new sounds (which I like
  > very
  > > > > much..). But then I turned off the xl7 to get rid of the stuck
  > > note
  > > > > and none of the patches work (because they are saying ROM not
  > > > found..)
  > > > >
  > > > > Is there some bank changes I need to make to the files? or
  > change
  > > > the
  > > > > device ID on the XL7? I tried 10 (as suggestead in the files
  > area)
  > > > and
  > > > > 0 as the sysex device ID on the XL7. Both times the ROM wasn't
  > > > found..
  > > > >
  > > > > Pleas please helP..!!
  > > > >
  > > > > thanks!
  > > > >
  > > > > eRiKa
  >
  >
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