Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

My pleasure jho - glad all is working well

> gongvibe,
> That was totally it.  Thanks a million.  It threw me off because it said "0=midiclk" and there is no zero!  I rolled it over to "ext" and it locked up perfectly, song position pointer worked great..everything.
> 
> So I had to make basically 16 sync'ed up passes thru Protools HD.  I have to say the timing seems perfect or close enough...I can't notice any drift whatsoever now.  But it was a pain to do and took almost 3 hours for a 4 minute song!  It was so cumbersome and timeconsuming I'm wondering if I ever want to go thru that process again--seems it would be much easier to just trigger the XL from a computer sequencer cuz then you can easily mute tracks on the computer...but then you loose that quick-spontaneous asset of composing on the XL, which I like.  I'd love anyone elses feedback using a similar XL / Daw and how you do it.
> 
> Anyway, here's what I had to do:
> 
> 1. Turn off all other midi channels except the one you want to record (as described by drk, thanks!)
> 2. Change the outputs in global for that channel for EACH PATTERN to the outputs you want (i.e. thru the main L/R for effects etc).   This was a time consuming part since the song had around 25-30 different patterns.
> 3. Save the pattern
> 
> What ended up happening is I somehow erased or changed the preset settings for each pattern so when the song played back, the presets on each track (that had a patch change mid-song) didn't change on any of the patterns that had sound changes!!  Accept patch change was on...so don't know what I did.
> 
> Any suggestions for not duplicating what I did in the paragraph above, and for use in concert with a DAW would be further appreciated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> jho
> 
> 
> 
> From:  "gongvibe <edmann@p...>" <edmann@p...>
> Date:  Fri Dec 27, 2002  8:50 am
> Subject:  Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)
> 
> Make sure the the TEMPO page in the MIDI menu is set to "ext"
> 
> --- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, <iproduce@b...> wrote:
> > Drk,
> >
> > Thanks for the suggestions. The problem is that the XL7 is not staying midi
> sync'd up well to PT. I like your idea of turning off the midi channels, so I
> was going to make 16 passes. By the fourth or fifth pass, tho, there was a
> noticible drift happening despite my attempts to make sure everything was set
> to start properly. Any other suggestions? Is anyone having similar midi sync
> / timing issues? I love the box but can't use it if it won't sync to Protools.
> My MPC2000XL has always synced right up no problem.
> >
> > Another note...anyone elses left channel seem to have more floor noise than
> the right? By the time I make 16 passes (if i could) the buildup of that noise
> will be pretty bad.
> >
> > Finally, I was going to try and dump the patterns out to midi file via the
> E-loader and then load them into PT (thinking I'd replay the box from pt as a
> midi device). I couldn't get E-loader to see my XL7...I have a mac Ti
> powerbook running OS9, with a MOTU fastlane. Everything seems to be connected
> properly...is there any trick or secret? Anyone know when USB direct connect
> to the box will be supported on the Mac?
> >
> > Sorry for all the questions, thanks for any help.
> >
> > jho
> > >
> > On 12/23/02> From: drK <drk@d...>
> > > Date: 2002/12/23 Mon PM 02:53:01 EST
> > > To: "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)
> > >
> > > 12:08 PM, "iproduce@b..." <iproduce@b...>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > rEalm and jho,
> > >
> > > Here's how I would proceed.
> > >
> > > My first approach would be to record the MIDI out of the XX-7 into the host
> > > DAW (Cubase SX, ProTools, etc) with the DAW providing the master MIDI
> > > clocking to the XX-7 and the DAW recording in multi-channel mode. This
> > > would then let you use the DAW later to drive the XX-7 as a sound module and
> > > use muting of each MIDI track to control what is recorded when.
> > >
> > > But if for some reason the MIDI recording approach does not work well then
> > > you still have a choice of using the XX-7's sequencer to control the sound
> > > module and do multi-tracking of audio, either using the XX-7's six separate
> > > outs or just doing it a stereo pair at a time.
> > >
> > > Since there is no easy way of to solo a single track in song mode then I
> > > would suggest an alternative - disabling the actual XX-7 synthesizer
> > > channels associated with a track. This could be one or more if you do heavy
> > > sound layering.
> > >
> > > Probably the easiest way to do this is to use the MIDI Enable feature for
> > > each channel. In EDIT-MIDI scroll until you get to the MIDI ENABLE submenu
> > > and simply find each of the channels you are using (01A-16B). Turn those
> > > used one's off and turn back on the one (or ones) you need to record for
> > > each pass.
> > >
> > > These act like system-wide mutes on the synth module and are very handy for
> > > quickly turning things on or off.
> > >
> > > just a suggestion.
> > >
> > >
> > > drk
> > >
> > > www.delora.com/music
> > > www.mp3.com/zdrk
> > > drk.iuma.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> 
> ----------------------------
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