Emu XL-7 & MP-7 User's Group

gongvibe,
That was totally it.  Thanks a million.  It threw me off because it said "0=midiclk" and there is no zero!  I rolled it over to "ext" and it locked up perfectly, song position pointer worked great..everything.

So I had to make basically 16 sync'ed up passes thru Protools HD.  I have to say the timing seems perfect or close enough...I can't notice any drift whatsoever now.  But it was a pain to do and took almost 3 hours for a 4 minute song!  It was so cumbersome and timeconsuming I'm wondering if I ever want to go thru that process again--seems it would be much easier to just trigger the XL from a computer sequencer cuz then you can easily mute tracks on the computer...but then you loose that quick-spontaneous asset of composing on the XL, which I like.  I'd love anyone elses feedback using a similar XL / Daw and how you do it.

Anyway, here's what I had to do:

1. Turn off all other midi channels except the one you want to record (as described by drk, thanks!)
2. Change the outputs in global for that channel for EACH PATTERN to the outputs you want (i.e. thru the main L/R for effects etc).   This was a time consuming part since the song had around 25-30 different patterns.
3. Save the pattern

What ended up happening is I somehow erased or changed the preset settings for each pattern so when the song played back, the presets on each track (that had a patch change mid-song) didn't change on any of the patterns that had sound changes!!  Accept patch change was on...so don't know what I did.

Any suggestions for not duplicating what I did in the paragraph above, and for use in concert with a DAW would be further appreciated.

Thanks

jho



From:  "gongvibe <edmann@p...>" <edmann@p...>
Date:  Fri Dec 27, 2002  8:50 am
Subject:  Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)

Make sure the the TEMPO page in the MIDI menu is set to "ext"

--- In xl7@yahoogroups.com, <iproduce@b...> wrote:
> Drk,
>
> Thanks for the suggestions. The problem is that the XL7 is not staying midi
sync'd up well to PT. I like your idea of turning off the midi channels, so I
was going to make 16 passes. By the fourth or fifth pass, tho, there was a
noticible drift happening despite my attempts to make sure everything was set
to start properly. Any other suggestions? Is anyone having similar midi sync
/ timing issues? I love the box but can't use it if it won't sync to Protools.
My MPC2000XL has always synced right up no problem.
>
> Another note...anyone elses left channel seem to have more floor noise than
the right? By the time I make 16 passes (if i could) the buildup of that noise
will be pretty bad.
>
> Finally, I was going to try and dump the patterns out to midi file via the
E-loader and then load them into PT (thinking I'd replay the box from pt as a
midi device). I couldn't get E-loader to see my XL7...I have a mac Ti
powerbook running OS9, with a MOTU fastlane. Everything seems to be connected
properly...is there any trick or secret? Anyone know when USB direct connect
to the box will be supported on the Mac?
>
> Sorry for all the questions, thanks for any help.
>
> jho
> >
> On 12/23/02> From: drK <drk@d...>
> > Date: 2002/12/23 Mon PM 02:53:01 EST
> > To: "xl7@yahoogroups.com" <xl7@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: Re: [xl7] Using the XL-7 with Protools (or any DAW)
> >
> > 12:08 PM, "iproduce@b..." <iproduce@b...>
> > wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > rEalm and jho,
> >
> > Here's how I would proceed.
> >
> > My first approach would be to record the MIDI out of the XX-7 into the host
> > DAW (Cubase SX, ProTools, etc) with the DAW providing the master MIDI
> > clocking to the XX-7 and the DAW recording in multi-channel mode. This
> > would then let you use the DAW later to drive the XX-7 as a sound module and
> > use muting of each MIDI track to control what is recorded when.
> >
> > But if for some reason the MIDI recording approach does not work well then
> > you still have a choice of using the XX-7's sequencer to control the sound
> > module and do multi-tracking of audio, either using the XX-7's six separate
> > outs or just doing it a stereo pair at a time.
> >
> > Since there is no easy way of to solo a single track in song mode then I
> > would suggest an alternative - disabling the actual XX-7 synthesizer
> > channels associated with a track. This could be one or more if you do heavy
> > sound layering.
> >
> > Probably the easiest way to do this is to use the MIDI Enable feature for
> > each channel. In EDIT-MIDI scroll until you get to the MIDI ENABLE submenu
> > and simply find each of the channels you are using (01A-16B). Turn those
> > used one's off and turn back on the one (or ones) you need to record for
> > each pass.
> >
> > These act like system-wide mutes on the synth module and are very handy for
> > quickly turning things on or off.
> >
> > just a suggestion.
> >
> >
> > drk
> >
> > www.delora.com/music
> > www.mp3.com/zdrk
> > drk.iuma.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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