I understand being packed for room but a power conditioner only occupies 1 rack space and is only about 4 inches deep. I have a rack that I use for giging and studio applications. I take this rack with me wherever I go. 10 Spaces big and everyone I know who has a rack no matter how big or small, has a power conditioner module in the top space. It's just like a rule. If you are going to buy a 10 space rack, think of it as 9 because automatically designate one space for power. If your rack can't hold any more gear, time to get a new rack. Power conditioners are essential. mikexl7 wrote: > I am in a situation where all my cables are packed into a road > case. I have all that is balanced using balanced cables but there > still is some hum. I think some of it is off my new mixer (alesis > studio 12R) before this mixer i was using a mackie 1604vlz. I think > it had a lower noise floor. Almost all my cables where made by me > and are shielded and of good quality but what can i do about the > power cables? > > Any advice other than the power conditioner. > I am totaly packed for room in this box so I would have to mount it > in the back some how. so other than that what can I do? > > Thanks for any help. > > Mike G. > > --- In xl7@y..., "ezra_gold" <ezra_gold@y...> wrote: > > The other thing to do is run "balanced" signals and cabling > whenever > > possible. This would be and XLR or 1/4in TRS wire where 3 wires > carry > > a monophonic signal. Balanced signals seperate ground from the > audio > > signal. Balanced signals are higher level (+4dbm vs -10dbm) and > less > > affected by electrical noise. You can also "lift" ground at one > end > > of the cable to prevent hum causing ground loops. > > > > There are conventions on how to lift ground and this is the source > of > > the arrows on Monster cables (which I think are bunk too but Im > just > > sayin....). > > > > You also need to be carefull when converting between unbalaced and > > balanced signals. You need to follow the manufacturer reccomended > > grounding and conversion practices our use a "DI box"/Impedance > > Transformer. Pick up a good studio book it will explain things > > better. > > > > On the xl-7 the main outs are balanced but the subs are not. Using > > a "guitar cable" that grounds "ring" to "sleeve" is acceptable > > practice for converting the balanced outs on the xl-7 to > unbalanced. > > > > --Ezra > > > > > > --- In xl7@y..., Alex Strudley <Alexs@e...> wrote: > > > Biggest thing that helps is to use high quality shielded > cables. > > Don't use > > > those plasticky orange and grey 6 dollar Hosa cables. Do not run > > regular > > > instrument cables through your mixer to your sound card. Get > the > > more > > > expensive cables for that. You can use regular instrument > cables > > on your > > > synths to go into the mixer but not on the soundcard and not > from > > your > > > studio monitors back to the mixer. The extra money is worth it. > > > Above all use a power conditioner like a furman Rack Rider. > > > Don't get a Juice Goose because they are simply a power strip in > a > > rackmount > > > case but the Furmans have RF filters in them. A Furman Rack > Rider > > is about > > > 50 bucks from AMS or Musician's Friend. Best 50 bucks you will > > ever spend. > > > I've got a few of them and can not imagine the horrors I would > face > > if I ran > > > all my stuff through regular power strips that you could buy at > a > > hardware > > > store. No ghetto cables and no ghetto power supplies. Your > world > > will be > > > better. > > > > > > Alex > > > ------------------------------------ > > > > > > > > > > > > miki3mikius wrote: > > > > > > > --- In xl7@y..., erik_magrini@B... wrote: > > > > > > > > thanks for your help! It was a grounding problem. I had the > cabels > > > > from my computer soundcard next to mp7 in the mixer and that > > produced > > > > the infamous hum. Still there is a very slight hum (higehr in > > tune), > > > > but thats tolerable. Btw can anyone tell me how these grounding > > > > problems happen and what to do to avoid them? Still I would > like > > to > > > > run both the emu and the computer through my mixer. > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > > Does any of your other gear make a hum when connected to > those > > same > > > > leads > > > > > by any chance? Not saying it's not your XL_7, just make > sure > > it's > > > > not a > > > > > grounding issue first. If you still have it, maybe pop open > the > > > > botom and > > > > > make sure everything is screwed in tight? > > > > > > > > > > rEalm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > brand new machine with the hum. Not on the headphones but on > the > > > > main outs > > > > > (not on the subs). Anyone any idear? > > > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > > > xl7-unsubscribe@y... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to > > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > xl7-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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Re: [xl7] more cable talk
2002-04-25 by Alex Strudley
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